News: The rebuild goes on... - The summer 2020 transfer thread

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  1. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
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    Hazard was needed after Ronaldo departure .
    Perez isnt a fan of Pogs maybe Juve may splash that sort of money on a midfielder and im not sure Players + cash will attract Ed n Ole considering how we have gone about tranfers since Ole took over.
     
  2. Ashur

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  3. Naboomagnoli

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    May 31, 2007
    Zakaria is a much better DM than Soumare, so it depends if we want a combative 8 or a very mobile 6 who is more than a destroyer.

    I think Zakaria should be the priority for DM. Borussia Mönchengladbach have done an exceptional job this season and Zakaria's tactical flexibility has been a big part of that, able to drop into the back line or support the attack effectively.
     
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  4. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
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    I like Zakaria as well, if Thomas didn't have a stupidly low release clause for his talent level, Zakaria would be number 1 on the list given where he is and what he'd likely cost.

    Every time I see Upamencano play I get madder that we paid 80M for ********ing Maguire. Maguire has done okay, but he still gets beat by every bit of pace and direct play and he somehow gets muscled off the ball as well.
     
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  5. Ashur

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    Partey, Zakaria and Soumare are similar in the terms of CMs they are: the difference between them is their age, and obviously the fact they are in different stages in their career (and development, especially in Soumare's case).
    Would absolutely welcome either one of them at the club. A physical and athletic 6/8 type is precisely the type I'd favor in terms of a midfield addition at this juncture. All 3 also appear to be available at reasonable prices to boot as well. But considering what we currently have in our midfield, a player like those 3 would round it out very, very well.
     
  6. MizzouMUFC

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    We pad up for the safe move. There were plenty of guys out there like Upamencano that have much higher ceilings than Slabhead, but in the end we went for the PL proven safe bet. I dont think it was the right move, but I can understand it.
     
  7. Naboomagnoli

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    May 31, 2007
    I think Thomas won't want to leave.
    Also I don't think we were nearly enticing enough a project for top young talents at the time. We were a shambles.
     
  8. MizzouMUFC

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    I agree that Thomas won't want to leave. But we should feel him out and see for sure. Because if the rumored buyout clause is correct, teams would be stupid not to test it out. He would be perfect for our midfield. Moves well, good positioning, can tackle, decent passing range. Hes like a 6/8 hybrid.
     
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  9. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    #59 Ashur, Mar 13, 2020
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    We can not say with any certitude whether Partey won't leave Atleti or not. Virtually nothing has changed from last season when he was ready to leave and was believe to favor a move to England, despite being a regular in a very successful Atleti side. The reason why he didn't leave then was because no one, amazingly enough, formally made an approach for him.
    His contract with Atleti is the same, evidenced by his release clause which has remained unchanged. And based on his continued excellent play this season, there are sure to be suitors for him this time around. There are already reports of Arteta and Arsenal being very interested in bringing him in.
    While there are no guarantees of course, but we really should make an approach and gauge his interest in coming to United. Worst comes to worst, he's not interested and the club moves on to an alternative.
    That said, if the club's interest in Zakaria proved to be legit, then that has to be good as it shows they are on the right track in terms of their CM target.
     
  10. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    Speaking of Partey, watching him over both legs vs Pool, he really was sensational, especially in terms of his defensive work and workrate. But the numbers clearly back that up. Hard to believe he'd go another summer without a couple of clubs trying to pry him away from Madrid.
     
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  11. johno

    johno Member+

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    Upamecano's NOW is higher than Maguire's ceiling. Only saving grace for Slabhead is that he legit wants to be at THIS club. Same thing for Ighalo and that means something.

    As for Thomas... lets be real, we may not be a top tier destination currently, but of course he'd leave Atleti. We've won more than they have in the last decade and it has been terrible by our standards and great by their's. We're a much bigger club than Atleti.
     
  12. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    didn't rate Upa before?
     
  13. Naboomagnoli

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    May 31, 2007
    Sometimes it's not as simple as 'who's the bigger club'. I don't know if devotion's a strong word but he has said how much he loves the club and that he wants to retire there or stay until they don't love him anymore.

    I read something a while ago that detailed how Atleti did a lot to help Thomas make it as a footballer which meant a lot to him. I've not seen anything genuine that says he was ready to leave last summer or will want to leave this coming window. His release clause is probably that low because there's no urgency to bump it up.
     
  14. MizzouMUFC

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    Not to mention Simeone's guys are, in general, very loyal to him.
     
  15. johno

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    No, I did, the decision not to get him just looks worse with every passing game.
     
  16. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
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    He left Africa with nothing, just hoping to make a team. Atletico were the first team he tried out for.

    Most Africans who leave like Partey, they end up stuck, homeless in Europe.
     
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  17. Rooney20

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    We couldn’t afford to whiff on a transfer and were looking for a veteran presence at the tome so I understand pausing on him. It’s not like we can’t buy him thus summer with Rojo and Jones almost certain to leave.
     
  18. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    The time to buy a top of the line (or potentially top of the line) CB has passed. With more pressing needs on the table at this time, can't see us spending big on a CB, despite the repeated rumors about Koulibaly for instance.
    Guys like Upamecano or Konate (and even Koulibaly to a lesser extent) would be great additions but we're good right now at CB, even if Jones and Rojo leave this summer as expected.
    We're looking at a quartet of Maguire, Lindelöf, Bailly and Tuanzebe right now. Even with the last 2 constant injury risks, not sure where that leaves room for another CB.
    Whatever money we do have available for the upcoming window, I want to see it spent on a RW/RWF, a holding mid and probably on making Ighalo permanent also. We'll probably be tapped out after that in all likelihood to afford someone like Upamecano.
     
  19. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    why do you think Jones will go? he recently renewed and has no suitors.

    at least it will be at great losses. that said Solskjær has been far more decisive than any other manager so maybe but again no one actually wants him
     
  20. johno

    johno Member+

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    We were more likely to whiff on Maguire who is slow and played in a team that was happy to counter-attack and could sit deeper because they didn't have to press the issue against 90% of the teams they faced. Upamecano remains an almost can't miss certainty.
     
  21. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    Bild confirming to an extent, Sky Germany's previous report here. Gladbach are determined to keep, so it would stand to reason that CL qualification would be imperative for them to do so (currently sitting 4th and final CL place in the Buli table at this time).
    Pool's interest unfortunately is not totally unexpected. Guessing they'll be looking to refresh the squad as much as they can to truly stay competitive (this group has been on a 3yr run after all). So they'd be an obstacle to deal with: would def be much easier if we are able to offer CL ourselves.
     
  22. johno

    johno Member+

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    As much as I want to add someone like Zakaria, I don't really think it is likely. There's talk of exercising the option on Matic (vomits) and if we are adding Bellingham, the likelihood of adding another CM when we are focused on Sancho or Grealish (I refuse to believe we're interested in both).
     
  23. MizzouMUFC

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    The Matic extension already happened. Ole confirmed it.
     
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  24. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    According to The Athletic at least (so it may carry some weight). At the end of the day, what the club does in midfield rests, as it's always been the case really, on what happens with Pogba.
    If Pogba stays, the odds are very good we'll be going for a holding mid (with Grealish no longer on the agenda). Conversely, if Pogs goes, I imagine that the focus on a player to replace him and that brings us back to Grealish. Although, I have nothing against Grealish and believe he'd a solid addition to our squad, definitely believe also that a top holding mid is paramount and should be the focus no matter what. TBD though and we can only hope that the report above proves factual.
    Not sure that Bellingham will happen either, with rumors apparently indicating that he's determined to join Dortmund. Which honestly makes all the sense in the world for a kid like him, given their recent record with young talent in recent years.
     
  25. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
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    I cannot fathom being in for a holding midfielder, keeping Matic for another year AND James Garner being on our books.

    If we are in for a holding midfielder and we are keeping Pogba, our midfield should look like this:

    Pogba/Bruno
    Fred/Scott
    Garner

    That's plenty. If we are moving Pogba and we insist on keeping Matic, then the only CM in should be Bellingham. There's no point acquiring excellent young talent or having them on the books and not playing them while in transition.
     

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