2019 CONCACAF League and 2020 Champions League

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by newtex, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By Hook or By Crook, The Hatred of Eddy shall Triumph!
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2020 CONCACAF Champions League
    Round of 16
    Home team first, times are ET

    Thursday results:

    First Leg
    Tuesday, February 18
    Portmore United (JAM) 1-2 Cruz Azul (MEX)
    FC Motagua (HON) 1-1 Atlanta United (USA)
    Club Leon (MEX) 2-0 Los Angeles FC (USA)

    Wednesday, February 19
    D. Saprissa (CRC) 2-2 Montreal Impact (CAN)
    Alianza FC (SLV) 2-1 Tigres UANL (MEX)
    Comunicaciones (GUA) 1-1 Club America (MEX)

    Thursday, February 20

    AD San Carlos (CRC) 3-5 New York City FC (USA)
    CD Olimpia (HON) 2-2 Seattle Sounders (USA)

    Second Leg
    Tuesday, February 25
    Atlanta United (USA) 3-0 FC Motagua (HON)
    Atlanta advances on aggregate, 4-1
    Cruz Azul (MEX) 4-0 Portmore United (JAM)
    Cruz Azul advances on aggregate, 6-1

    Wednesday, February 26
    New York City FC (USA) 1-0 AD San Carlos (CRC)
    NYCFC advances on aggregate, 6-3
    Montreal Impact (CAN) 0-0 D. Saprissa (CRC)
    Montreal advances on away goals, 2-0
    Tigres UANL (MEX) 4-2 Alianza FC (SLV)
    Tigres advances on aggregate, 5-4
    Club America (MEX) 1-1 (pks 5-3)Comunicaciones (GUA)
    Club America advances on penalties, 5-3

    Thursday, February 27
    Seattle Sounders (USA) 2-2 (pks 2-4) CD Olimpia (HON)
    Olimpia advances on penalties, 4-2
    Los Angeles FC (USA) 3-0 Club Leon (MEX)
    LAFC advances on aggregate, 3-2

    The Quarterfinals start on March 10.
     
  3. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Seeing the CONCACAF club index and how they will all lose the 2014-15 results, and Honduras2 could very well jump to Pot 1 next year. While USA1 and Mex4 will be in Pot 2.
     
  4. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shameless plug: I've actually calculated how things stand for next year over here.

    The tl;dr response is that Olimpia would basically have to win the whole tournament for HON2 to jump to Pot 1.
     
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  5. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I found this interesting....comparing the market value of the teams in Quarterfinals
     
  6. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Miscalculated then.
     
  7. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know this is not the only thread in the history of bigsoccer on which people talk about Concacaf, right? I have responded to texts for years, again and again in which US fans poo-poo CA teams. I responded to one in this thread, in which someone casually stated that US teams always find a way to lose to a team they have no business losing to ... I believe referring to Olimpia, after its first goal. If you dont see those type of posts littering the site you arent paying attention.
     
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  8. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was agreeing with your take on Montreal but pointing out that no one should be all that surprised that Olimpia could beat Seattle, as you were. That is a good team.
     
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  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good night over all.

    I always cheer when the little teams win, Comunicaciones did well, but fell a little short, Saprissa like usual was tough, Alianza was a few minutes away from the upset.

    A few lucky bounces and we could have had 4 Central American teams in the round of 8.


    Maybe the gap is closing after all, the Central American gap ;)
     
  10. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    If we’re talking all time posts there’s plenty of opinions that go the other way as well. Some usual suspects here only focus on negatives pertaining to MLS, and are quick to hype accomplishments elsewhere as amazing progress.
     
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  11. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Some usual suspects here only focus on positives pertaining to MLS, and are quick to minimize/dismiss accomplishments elsewhere as flukes or subpar performance from MLS clubs.
     
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  12. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Right, I said it goes both ways, with some favoring the most positive narrative and some the most negative.
     
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  13. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We will agree to disagree. In my viewing, there are far more posts from US fans (MLS fans or not) discounting CA teams than those speaking of their competitiveness ... and it isn't even close. Not sure if you are lumping me in with your group of posters who you write "focus on negatives" regarding MLS, but I assure you that you're barking up the wrong tree if so. I am one of the most unapologetically enthusiastic MLS fans on this site. This IS my league.
     
  14. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Yep, we can disagree. I think this forum in particular is most often fair and realistic pertaining to MLS and its place in the region.
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I wasn't disagreeing with you.

    The whole region
    acknowledges the rise of MLS and the improvement of the league, coaching, clubs and even development in some cases. I just think there needs to be a recognition that the rest of the region isn't as bad as people think it is especially in regards of Top Central American clubs.

    *Yes, Caribbeans clubs are still significantly weaker but they have a 2 tier tournament among themselves to weed out the worst from the mediocre if that's any comfort :)

    100% right here, anyone claiming MLS is anything the #2 league is being dishonest. This forum needs to stop comparing MLS & Central American leagues like they are the same in my opinion.

    MLS "overall" is much stronger than Central American leagues "overall". Where MLS have some "parity" while those leagues don't necessarily have them. MLS is stronger, however, the usual top 2 or 3 clubs of these leagues are usually much better than most of the rest/average of their respective leagues. MLS clubs being favourites doesn't mean that those top clubs are pushovers.

    That's where I'm coming from on the matter. I think Montreal is slightly favourite but wouldn't be shocked one bit if Olimpia eliminates them
     
  16. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Me either but I'm hoping the Impact can come through and get some Canadian revenge for Olimpia knocking out Hamilton back in the CL.
     
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  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYCFC hosts the first leg. Because of Seattle's loss (if PKs aren't a loss you can say "elimination"), only one MLS club will host the second leg.

    Playing in the biggest city in the country, being affiliated with one of the top clubs in the world, and having had stars like Villa, Lampard, and Pirlo, I'm surprised NYCFC is so much below Atlanta and LAFC.

    Forge, not Hamilton.
     
  18. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Olimpia has directly benefitted from MLS' rise … Leveron, Flores, Bengtson, Maidana
     
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  19. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    This is a great tournament that should be publicized more.
     
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  20. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with everything you just said ... except for the favorite in the upcoming series. From what I saw of both teams, I would peg Olimpia as the slight favorite. I hope to be wrong, of course.
     
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  21. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did NYC have to give up the second leg due to scheduling issues? Because they should host second according to the rules, having won both legs of the first round while Tigres won one and lost one.
     
  22. fanatica

    fanatica New Member

    LAFC
    United States
    Feb 6, 2020
    I thought the same thing, but couldn't see the jersey number of the player who shot that ball at the LAFC fans. Any updates?
     
  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And all that Houston Dynamo money :D

    What you're thinking of only applies in the semifinals and Final.

    In the quarterfinals, the winners of the odd-numbered R16 series (in this case: ATL, Cruz Azul, Tigres and Olimpia) get to finish at home.
     
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  24. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will NYCFC have a home to play in?
     
  25. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Check back in 60-90 days... ;)
     

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