SheBelieves 2020

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by lil_one, Jan 8, 2020.

  1. jackdoggy

    jackdoggy Member+

    May 16, 2014
    Big D
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, no, no...........no take backs, no clarifications.
    I've already taken 2 screenshots of your post - framed one, the second is going in my Safety Deposit Box tomorrow in case my house burns down.
     
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  2. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Ah, come on! At my age I am allowed a senior moment or three am I not? In a moment of weakness or in the flow of a conversation I am libel to forget what the subject under discussion is/was or even forget what language I am talking in.

    You know how sometimes you can enter a room and forget why you went there? Well I can enter a room and forget what room it is.

    I do not desire to take back posts, well not usually. But I will be as inconsistent as ever. I have no obligation to be consistent. I will stick with avoiding incontinence. :devilish::laugh::cool::sneaky:
     
  3. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Some of us have gone past the point of senior moments and developed senior momentum...
     
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  4. CoachJon

    CoachJon Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are just numbers.
    SheBelieves Forwards, Midfielders, & Dunn

    Goals/GamePlayerGamesGoals
    0.42Lloyd291122
    0.42Press13456
    0.36Williams259
    0.31Rapinoe16551
    0.29Pugh6218
    0.29Lavelle4212
    0.28Mewis6418
    0.24Dunn10124
    0.24McDonald174
    0.22Horan8318
    0.20Heath16533
    0.19Ertz9919
    0.00Sullivan160

    For reference Wambach was 0.72 GPG and Morgan is 0.63 GPG
     
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  5. Mojo Jambo

    Mojo Jambo Member

    Aug 26, 2013
    Cleveland, OH
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would think goals per minute would show a jump for those with a large number of sub appearances.
     
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  6. Mills

    Mills Member

    Aug 23, 2019
    I'd prefer to see goals per minutes instead of goals per game.
     
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  7. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yep. Goals per game is pretty much meaningless. But rather than goals per minute I think goals per 90 minutes (or 45 or some other meaningful number) would be better. Goals per minute would be too small a number to mean much to most people. It also would be good to somehow remove meaningless minutes like a player coming into a match that is already 4-0 or more with only 5 or 6 minutes left.

    I would also like "shots" to be counted more like in hockey. I know that shots on goal, which is the meaningful stat, are also counted but the shot attempts, no matter if they miss badly or not, are always displayed first and shots on goal are often not reported at all. A shot that misses the goal is worthless and should never be a positive stat at all. I also do not believe that blocked shots should be counted as shots.

    I know it has always been that way but that does not make it right or even reasonable.
     
  8. CoachJon

    CoachJon Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like I said, they are just numbers. But anyway I worked out some more "pretty much meaningless" goals/game numbers for comparison:

    Heinrichs 0.76, Akers 0.69, Hamm 0.55, Milbrett 0.49, Parlow 0.47, Leroux 0.45, Jennings 0.45, Lilly 0.37, MacMillan 0.34, Venturini 0.33, Pugh 0.29, Tarpley 0.26, Rodriguez 0.23, HAO 0.20.
    So who belongs in the company of whom?
    Doesn't 0.4 or better tell you something about a player's goal scoring productivity?

    P.S. If someone want goals/minute, or minutes/goal , they need to dig out the data and crank the numbers.
     
  9. Crazyhorse

    Crazyhorse Member

    Dec 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the field, Casey Short is so far and away better than Sonnet at defense it is laughable. Off the field goings on I cant comment on, but Short is leagues the superior soccer player.
     
  10. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Probably our best 1 on 1 defender-- but a turnover machine on offense. I'll take Sonnet, especially the way she's played lately.

    Didn't we just do this-- feels redundant on both parts?
     
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  11. hocbz

    hocbz Member

    Feb 15, 2016
    This is an incredibly useless stat. Especially when you consider the only players who have spent their entire careers as strikers AND starters were Morgan and Wambach. Lloyd and Rapinoe were mostly midfielders in their careers. Press' numbers are also pretty crazy for someone who spent most of her career coming off the bench and rarely playing striker.
     
  12. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    "Most people use statistics the way a drunkard uses a lamp post, more for support than illumination." Mark Twain
     
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  13. Crazyhorse

    Crazyhorse Member

    Dec 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't we just do this-- feels redundant on both parts?[/QUOTE]

    Hahaha, yes we probably have gone back and forth on this subject. I think Casey is the better soccer player, no doubt, but Emily is the better fit as far as personal dynamics. Not saying Casey isn't personable, but the cliches seems well established.
     
  14. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ticket sales:



    Just an fyi: capacity at each stadium (although I don't know if they're opening up all seats for each match):
    Orlando: 25,500
    Harrison: 25,000
    Frisco: 20,500
     
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  15. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When I went to the US men's game versus Panama, there was a lot of parking available around the stadium. But that was a sellout.

    Anyone know what they're going to do parking wise for the women's game Thursday?
     
  16. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Charge 50 bucks for the parking spot.
     
  17. jackdoggy

    jackdoggy Member+

    May 16, 2014
    Big D
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correction:
    Thursday in Orlando: 10,999 + Semb
     
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  18. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I know I am probably overlooking the obvious but what is "Semb?"
     
  19. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Who all will be at the game in Orlando?

    I will be there. If any of you want to meet and say hi, it would be cool.
     
  20. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Another poster.
     
  21. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this a serious response?
     
  22. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The stadium itself does not have public parking, or none that I have seen.

    I go there every time the Red Stars play Orlando and I park one block away in Public Parking for $10. I'm hoping it doesn't go up for the USWNT game. Also, there will be many locals close and around the stadium with signs to park on their lawns. There is a Church about half a block from the stadium that I have parked at before. I'm guessing anywhere between $10 to $20 will be regular charge around the stadium. Hopefully not much more.
     
  23. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's about the way it was the Men's game when I went.

    Thanks.
     
  24. CoachJon

    CoachJon Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What network or streaming service is /are carrying the non-USA shebelieves games? Thanks.
     
  25. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    ESPN 3 has the non-US matches.
     
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