Rumor: Yea or Ney-mar - The 2019-20 Transfer thread

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  1. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #826 Leon12, Feb 26, 2020
    Goog win for Man City, but they must be kicking themselves for not putting the tie to bed in the first leg against a bang average Madrid side.
     
  2. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    #827 evil_allan, Feb 26, 2020
    he has been amazing everywhere except at Barca. which is why i would actually rate him as the bigger flop. because unlike Coutinho, he actually had all the physical and technical qualities to succeed at Barca. his ego just got in the way when he couldn't handle not being the alpha in the pack.


    he was good but overrated in england and he's not been good enough at Bayern either. having a good coach and team certainly helped. in his defence he was really set up to fail at barca by the board thinking he could play Iniesta's role so I agree it wasn't his fault, unlike Zlatan's failure. Liverpool is far better without him and so are Barca and Bayern.

    Here's Klopp quoted in El Pais: "Coutinho is a fabulous forward but he will never feel comfortable in 4-3-3 as an inside midfielder; and much less if he has to play in the spot of Iniesta in the defensive phase of the 4-4-2 that Valverde practices, where the longer runs must be done by the wings. Iniesta is a long distance runner. Coutinho not."
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    #828 BocaFan, Feb 26, 2020
    I guess we saw the match differently. I don't think they're kicking themselves at all right now. 1-2 is a great result in a CL knockout tie, especially when you deservedly concede the first goal and your best player is barely involved for most of it.
     
  4. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    #829 TitoTata, Feb 26, 2020
    Don’t suppose Ramos will be missing against us ?? ( red card )
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    #830 BocaFan, Feb 26, 2020
    Luckily not.
     
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  6. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
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    #831 Leon12, Feb 26, 2020
    Hope not, he's always good for a red card
     
  7. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #832 Leon12, Feb 26, 2020
    City should have won 3 or 4 one, if they start second leg with Aguero and Sterling they could beat LPB by 5.
     
  8. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    #833 unclesox, Feb 26, 2020
    Direct red card suspensions do NOT cross over to/from domestic to/from international club tournaments.
     
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  9. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #834 celito, Feb 26, 2020
    I will have to disagree here. Ego was not a problem with Coutinho. He is a pretty humble and down to earth guy. I am guessing you didn't mean it in a bad way. He just wanted to play a position that fit his style of play. I think it was stand up for him to go on loan and not sit on the bench collecting a fat paycheck. He just realized he didn't fit and that's fine. He does need the play to go more through him but that has nothing to do with ego. It's how he performs the best. He needs passing options ... players running. He doesn't do well being the one running to receive the ball. He doesn't have the attributes to be a winger. Klopp's quote is correct.

    Having said all that, you're right that he was overrated. If you look at his career, those 3-4 years at Liverpool was the only time he performed really well. He wasn't great before, nor after. Even in the role he likes to play, he is really not a world beater. Just a good to pretty good player.
     
  10. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    #835 evil_allan, Feb 26, 2020
    right, Zlatan was the one with the ego problem. not Coutinho.

    that first paragraph was about Zlatan, the second one was about Coutinho. sorry that wasn't clear.
     
  11. ShortyMac

    ShortyMac Member+

    Barcelona
    Apr 10, 2011
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #836 ShortyMac, Feb 26, 2020


    :oops:
     
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  12. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    #837 condor11, Feb 27, 2020
    try being a fan of a peruvian club in continental comps...talks about depressing but never ashamed

    the Barca fanbase (on twitter) don't seem to realise how good they have had it this century.
     
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  13. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Brazil
    #838 celito, Feb 27, 2020
    To be fair .... with big spending comes high expectations .
     
  14. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    #839 condor11, Feb 27, 2020
    I think winning 4 Champions leagues, dominating last decade of la Liga, two trebles

    have more than met expectations this century

    problem is Pep's first 3 seasons made them believe that is actually achievable every season
     
  15. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    #840 Danko, Feb 27, 2020
    I agree that maybe we're spoiled but we should have won more CL titles than we actually managed to. In 2010, 2012 and 2016 we were the best team in the world.
     
  16. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    #841 evil_allan, Feb 27, 2020
    the best teams don't always win cup tournaments.
    we've seen a lot of not-great teams win the UCL over the years.
    look at LPB, they have won UCLs despite not even being the best team in their city.
     
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  17. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    #842 condor11, Feb 27, 2020
    yep look at Chelsea who finally won a CL with a lesser quality team than previous versions that failed to lift the cup
     
  18. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    #843 evil_allan, Feb 27, 2020
    obviously this all means that this year must be our best chance ever to win it! :D
     
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  19. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
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    #844 condor11, Feb 27, 2020
    well Liverpool (and other teams) has won it previously by having a team that was not even in the running for the EPL title
     
  20. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    #845 Danko, Feb 27, 2020
    I know but still feel that we should have won at least 1 more if not 2. We wasted some chances.
     
  21. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    #846 evil_allan, Feb 27, 2020
    yea, but that's football. that's why it's so much fun!
     
  22. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    #847 afar, Mar 5, 2020
     
  23. Lacosta

    Lacosta Member

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Feb 26, 2020
    In The Galactic
    #848 Lacosta, Jun 16, 2020
    One big NO for Neymar's return to Barcelona.
     
  24. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    #849 BocaFan, Jun 22, 2020
    Yup, but we really had our opponents on the ropes in both the 2012 and 2019 semifinals. "Had them on the ropes" is probably understating it.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    #850 BocaFan, Jun 22, 2020
    Rumors surfacing that we are interested in Miralem Pjanic and would be willing to send Arthur the other way. Add another 7 years to the already-ageing Barca midfield if that happens. :rolleyes:
     
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