2020 Roster Speculation Thread

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  1. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Blind faith is only a good thing if Steve Winwood is involved.
     
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  2. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Who is advocating bling faith? I haven't seen it.
     
  3. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'll answer this for him: it was in the heart. :(
     
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  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I said I was done with this conversation, but I guess I have to respond one more time, since you are being such an asshole.
    Don't be such an asshole.

    Thanks, now I am done.
     
  5. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Everyone (long timers, anyway) is salty. With damn good reason.
     
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  6. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The biggest signing of the offseason was a DM. The problem is that his position is about as sexy as the left tackle on an NFL team. He might win you a title, but his face isn't going to be the one on the billboards.
     
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  7. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Sell what you've got. If he's a great player when he gets here, he should be on the billboards.
     
  8. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Is "Salty" the re-branded mascot?
     
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  9. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I think it’s relatively easy to plug a player, team, system, etc. They could easily talk about how this awesome player (even if it’s a DM) and how that position strategically fits into a championship run.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  10. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    See, Chris Armas.
     
  11. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Bastain Schweinsteiger?
     
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  12. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Yeah, him too.

    I thought about that AFTER I posted, but in some ways, I do like my example. Few outside of US Soccer geeks like us knew Chris Armas when we traded for him (Danny something or other. What a great trade!). Yet he grew into the anchor of the team and one of its more recognizable faces. Welcome Gaston! Put him on the billboard!


     
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  13. N1ckels5

    N1ckels5 Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Armas was more recognizable because of his play with the USMNT.
     
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  14. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Not when we signed him. In fact, it was still an open question if he even COULD play for the National Team. He had played for Puerto Rico national team in the Shell Cup at the time we acquired him and not the US. There were big questions about whether that appearance was in a FIFA sanctioned competition. In all honesty, he should have been tied to Puerto Rico as that tournament was used as a qualifier into the Gold Cup.
     
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  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Simple, just make Puerto Rico a state.
    Problem solved. :thumbsup:
     
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  16. aetraxx7

    aetraxx7 Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    Des Moines, IA
    Club:
    Des Moines Menace
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still do not understand how they are not. I know that sometimes they vote it down and other times Congress does, but good Lord. I am in favor of either granting our territories statehood or severing ties.
     
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  17. N1ckels5

    N1ckels5 Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I’m aware of that but he also received his first cap in 98 the same year he starting playing for us. The point being is armas was a far more recognizable player to the average fan then Gimenez currently is. I don’t understand how that’s a controversial point.
     
  18. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't get it either. I never heard of him until his name popped up on twitter.
     
  19. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    It’s not controversial. My point was that you can start to market around great players when you sign them, even if they are new to the scene. I’m guessing not a lot of people knew who Diego Valeri was in Oregon before he was signed. Or Giovinco in Toronto or Ignacio Piatti in Montreal. Come to think of it, for those being honest, most Fire supporters in that first year had probably never heard of Piotr Nowak (outside of the Polish fans, of course).
     
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  20. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I mean, this is all true, and it's why I have to :rolleyes: at fans who insist that the team needed some big name signing. It doesn't show a lot of faith in the soccer market in this city.
     
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  21. N1ckels5

    N1ckels5 Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Did you really just compare gimenez to giovinco in terms of name recognition? One comes from one of the biggest clubs in the world and had caps for Italy. Also what’s one thing those 3 have in common that gimenez doesn’t? They are all attacking players much easier to market goals then defensive plays.
     
  22. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I have to :rolleyes: at fans who insist that the team needs some big name signing in order to market the team well. It doesn't show a lot of faith in the soccer market in this city.
     
  23. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    What the team needed was to establish credibility and excitement among the people engaged with the team, and to generate interest among the broader soccer-curious community in Chicago.

    A big name signing isn't the only way to do that, and depending on the player it might not accomplish both, but that was certainly a possible path to what this offseason needed to be for the franchise as a business.

    An impressive-under-the-circumstances playoff finish for this team, played in front of embarrassingly empty seats would be a job well done for Heitz and Wicky, but would make barely a dent in those business goals.
     
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  24. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Schweinsteiger was arguably our biggest name signing ever. We had our worst attendance in history and lost our only playoff game 4-0 in the 3 years he was here. Screw big name signings.
     

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