The 2020 Election Mega Thread

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  1. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
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    All these moderates....


     
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  2. Boandlkramer

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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  3. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
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    With this, Sanders completes a three-peat. Three states in which he won the popular vote.
     
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  4. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    Okay, let's look at a couple of facts (The first three are for context purposes):

    Fact 1. South Bend is 25.4%. One out of every 3.9 residents of South Bend lives in poverty.
    Fact 2. The median African American household income level in South Bend is $14,000 lower than African-American national average and they hold an income poverty rate of 40.2%, which is almost two times higher than the country average for African Americans.
    Fact 3. South Bend eviction rate 3 times the national average
    Fact 4: Community advocates in poorer, often African-American or Hispanic neighborhoods began to complain that the city was being too aggressive in fining property owners over code enforcement. The city leveled fines that added up to thousands of dollars, in certain cases, to pressure homeowners to make repairs or have their houses demolished. It also charged homeowners for the cost of tearing down those houses.
    Fact 5: During Buttigieg’s tenure as mayor from 2012 to '18, black residents were 4.3 times more likely to be arrested for possessing marijuana than white people.
    Fact 6: Pete demoted Police Chief Darryl Boykins after he presented recordings of local police officers being racist. According to former South Bend Police Cheif Boykins’ eventual racial-discrimination lawsuit, Buttigieg’s chief of staff, Mike Schmuhl, “with Buttigieg’s full and conspiratorial agreement,” told Boykins the feds were investigating him and the only way for Boykins to avoid prosecution was to resign as South Bend police chief. In testimony that did not become public until this past September, Schmuhl later admitted the feds never directly threatened to indict Boykins.

    Fact 7: Pete compared racism against African-Americans to his struggle with being gay.
    Fact 8: During the police racism controversy in South Bend, Pete uses the popular right-wing slogan "All Liver Matter".
    Fact 9: Pete lied about South Carolina African-Americans supporting his "Douglas Plan"
    Fact 10: Pete's campaign claimed that African-Americans didn't support him because they are homophobic, not because of his policies.
    Fact 11: When Buttigieg became mayor in 2012, the SBPD was 11 percent black (29 of 244 officers). There were 28 black officers in 2013; 26 in 2014, and by the time Buttigieg announced his run for president, the South Bend police force was six percent black, with 15 black officers.
    Fact 12: Pete refused to meet with a group of 10 African-American police officers who accused South Bend Police department of discrimination
    Fact 13: Pete said “Kids” from “lower-income, minority neighborhoods” don’t have “someone they know personally who testifies to the value of education.”
    Fact 14: Pete lied about support from black leaders again

    Here are a couple of facts you can review. Your free to brush them off simply (most will), but don't claim that Pete's actions/inactions during his time as mayor don't display a clear pattern of either disregard or strong contempt for the low-income and minority communities of South Bend. FYI, votes don't mean support. As for the Bernie Bro smear; Sanders the as most diverse base of voters, stop erasing them.

    I highly recommend reading this investigation into South Bend's police department and Pete's actions/inactions.

    https://tyt.com/stories/4vZLCHuQrYE4uKagy0oyMA/22kkCiHxZkbeKfsQZwkvIm
     
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  5. Kazuma

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    Jul 30, 2007
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    MSNBC is freaking out over Sanders winning Nevada.

    I still laugh that people call it a liberal network.
     
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  6. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    This is over and so is the primary in all likelihood, unless all the moderates other than Biden shut it down
     
  7. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    Chris Matthews is gonna vote for Trump.
     
  8. ceezmad

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    Mar 4, 2010
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    Trump is cheering for Sanders, so they do not need MSNBC.


     
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  9. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    Someone posts something thoughtful with at least a modicum of nuance, and this is your response? That, too, is rather telling on yourself.

    And if Sanders wins, he has my vote.
     
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  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Depends what you mean by “primary”. If Bernie goes into the election with only a plurality of delegates, I’m not sure he comes out of the convention as the Dem candidate...
     
  11. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Wow. That is a lot of slanted, tainted bullshit. Well done Bro.
     
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  12. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    #7887 Chris M., Feb 22, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
    For those who are not frothing at the mouth bro’s, this is a decent article that discusses race in a complicated place like South Bend. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...gomez/pete-buttigieg-black-support-south-bend

    By the way, I’m still undecided. As mentioned above, I’m looking at either a uniter or an all out fighter in Buttigieg or Warren. As a plan B, I would probably throw in with Bloomberg because I want nothing more than to have anyone in the White House other than Donald Trump. If the nominee is Sanders, I will turn off the tv, walk away from politics, vote for him in November, and then settle in for four more years.

    I never intended to be the spokes person for Pete Buttigieg on here, but I won’t stand by and listen to people call him a racist. It is wrong and it is incredibly stupid. He does have a lot of support that, apparently, the Bro’s have no interest in attracting to their side if Bernie is the nominee. Seriously. Racist? What a stupid conversation.
     
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  13. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    Buahahahahaha, you totally got me. Case closed Pete is a regular Malcolm X.

    3-0
     
  14. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    Did you find this garbage on some Bernie Bros related blog or site? Seems like a cookie cutter. I can't imagine that anyone in his right mind would take the time to put together that crap.
    The funny part is that one could do something similar for Bernie in Vermont, a state with less than 2% black and still close to 10% of the prison inmates are African American......(Did you see what I just did? ).
     
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  15. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    I guess someone who cares about a candidate's policies and record? Feel free to do the same about Bernie. Happy to read it.
     
  16. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Nah...We all know Bernie was at the forefront of the civil rights movement. He was even arrested somewhere supporting the movement. His credentials are impeccable :sneaky:
     
  17. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    Then kindly shut the ******** up.
     
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  18. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    No sweetie.....You can't shut me up. Specially since you are suddenly such a fighter against (Pete) racism and the newly anointed protector of my peeps in South Bend. Not sure I have ever seen you on the frontline though. In that regard, you may be just a charlatan like your Saint Bernard.
     
  19. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    @Sudžuka when did you join the Sanders' cult? I ask because you are very much "Sanders v. everybody" lately, and form the posts in this thread, you can't say a bad thing against Sanders or a good thing for anybody else.
     
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  20. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Holy ********, was that evident a few months ago. I was at a Q and A session with the then head of the convention. The dedicated time for the entire session about 90 minutes and had a few others there as well, along with three reporters from the local NPR station. But she took somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes to tell us how she was one of us because she graduated from Univ Wisconsin. And then she tried to say she was a small business person. And she had not plan on how to reach out to the Black community (I asked that directly) and didn't really address any of the other minority communities. She also said that local vendors need to go to a website to sign up for possible contracts in the future. It was a stated in a way of "we are The Convention, you need to come to us." She got booted in November/early December, but man was she both arrogant and ignorant.
     
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  21. NORML

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    Aug 9, 2002
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    there can be only one. write in for Jerry Brown.
     
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  22. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    No, you got me. You are well on your way to building a winning coalition! Now that you have identified one candidate in your own party as a racist, you can start in on the rest. Amy prosecuted a black guy who is in prison and may be exonerated by DNA evidence. Sweet! She is a racist too! Bloomberg, you have already identified as immoral because he made a lot of money. Apparently, you can only have three houses and still qualify for the proletariat. Biden? I have already seen some bro’s call him a creepy pedophile wannabe. Sweet! Your coalition of Democrats will be awesome going into November! https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...despised-democrats-in-1980s-said-a-jfk-speech
     
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  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    Not to be a Chicken Little... But are the results a little slow coming in? They’ve been stuck at 2-4% for ages it seems
     
  24. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
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    Germany
    Bernie in Nevada

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  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    And no sooner do I post this than it jumps up to 11%
     

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