Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    what I'm curious is FD. If that team gets relegated back to 2BL. How many doors does that open to U19-II players?

    Funkel doesn't trust youngsters with no pro experience. The 1st team has 8 fricking loans IN. And even then they seem to be headed for relegation.

    1 GK on loan IN from another league+2 injury prone guys in their mid 30s. GK is a position that could have openings. From 1st team they got Kastenmaier (been playing lot recently), Theissen, Okaye (poached by Nigeria), and 02-Gorka (pro contract that activates on his 18th birthday, the club seems to rate him really highly).

    lyoha and Gul are both players currently in 2BL loans.

    From II players they like are Stocker, Siadas (injured since April 2019.....), Lofolomo, Appelkamp (closest to 1st team and II top scorer), Bornemann. What I don't get is why Bornemann doesn't start as much in II? Last season in limited game time him and Appelkamp both outperformed everyone else. Come this season, Bornemann in limited game time is still one of the top providers for II. Always dislike when I see II teams playing older CFs over players with more potential.

    one can't say U19 who are 5th in West ahead of even Schalke has no talents. #1 Gorka and 01 CB Touglo both have pro contracts. 02 CB Siebert (1.93m tall) also was in 1st team Winter camp. There is still another 3-4 interesting players there too.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    EL

    02 CF Adeyemi makes his 1st team debut for Salzburg in a trashing 4-1 loss to Frankfurt. LOL his 1st team debut ends up vs 1BL club.

    Adeyemi played 46st min, aka entire 2nd half. I thought he was decent in his 1st team debut for a team that looked like a 3rd Liga club and that should have been trashed 6-1 or 7-1, no joke, Salzburg were that rubbish. Couldn't contain the intensity of and pressing of Frankfurt.

    as for Adeyemi I thought he started so-so and as he got more and more into, you could see his potential come out. Created some good chances for his team one where he dribbled by 2 players before laying it off to another and which didn't look far off from being a goal but it was blocked. He also played a role in Salzburg's only goal which ended up as a PK. Was his header that ended up causing a high leg in box as 2 players tried to get to the ball. Wonder if he starts in Leg 2, now that they are likely headed out.


    and on another note, 00-Cetin, continues his quest to make his pro debut as he played his 8th unused bench for Frankfurt 1st team this season. So much nonsense, Hutter isn't a coach that wants to dev young players. In so many friendlies he plays 1st teamers and gives scrap mins to young players.....they are fricking friendlies, lol. Today, up 4-0 and subs in 3/3 older players. Let's hope Frankfurt gives him like at least some min in Leg 2 if they seal the deal early otherwise, what a waste.....
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Gaudino Sr an ex Stuttgart player talks youth.
    Gaudino: "Talents are not given enough time"
    For Maurizio Gaudino, former player at VfB Stuttgart, the problems of the clubs are home-made: "Local talent is often played against foreign players who have been bought." This would also take time to acclimatize. "However, this time is not granted to local talent," says Gaudino. That is why Gaudino sees the clubs as a duty. These should also want to promote talent.

    "The club has to give the young players time and develop them," said Gaudino. It is therefore important to provide the trainers with long-term contracts. The sustainable development of youth players must be subordinated to short-term success.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    for Stuttgart 1st team,
    -Massimo who can play all over right seems to have established himself at RB. He's started in 3/3 games when he was fit post Winter........although not Academy product. He's been getting praise too. Good chance to continue starting.
    -Egloff, who did really well in Cup vs Bayer Leverkusen is someone the club doesn't want to burn out.
    -Aidonis and Mack (was injured for most of the season) constantly train with 1st team. Last update from Stuttgart coach was that Aidonis was getting closer.
    -Kleinhansl and Batzner always train with 1st team. Batzner's issue is physicality, skilled player but looks like a kid. Will likely need some time.
    -Hornung is 4th choice GK
    -Zografakis (poached by Greece) also has trained with 1st team a lot during season.

    from II, Grozinger and Tomic will likely leave in Summer. Wonder if Alonso leaves or plays potential RL next season? as Stuttgart II currently 1st place. Massively important that II goes back to RL.

    00 CF Batmaz who was U19 Sud/Sudwest top scorer last season yeah while playing for small club in Karlsruher U19 got loaned to Stuttgart II in OL to get match practice, should have been at worst RL loan, Shows how little clubs integrate these days, wtf does it take for someone to get integration in a 2BL club too.:rolleyes: I thought it was interesting seeing comments from Stuttgart fans who said that after seeing Batmaz play that they understand why Karlsruher fans are pissed about his loan, LOL. And Stuttgart fans asking if there is possibility of poaching him, lol. Batmaz looks to have scored in every Stuttgart II preseason game and then 1st official game, 1 goal and 2 assist as main CF. How long before players like Kaya, Kuyucu, Batmaz, Akalp get poached by Turkey? lol.

    not looking at U19 and under, only II-1st.
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't care about money or transfer values only about 1st team chances.

    RL Nord: Wolfsburg's Bundesliga candidates grow - Senger's wages at St. Pauli
    It is a promotional race that should provide excitement until the season finale of the Regionalliga Nord - VfB against VfL. If Lübeck has the better end for itself, the way in the 3rd league continues. At Wolfsburg, the leap could even be a lot bigger for some players in the near future: the Bundesliga squad beckons. In a season's market value update, some of them earned significant revaluations.

    Midfielder Julian Justvan rose by as much as 40 percent (to 175,000 euros). Recently also traveled to the training camp with the pros, 15 scorer points from the current season suggest that the 21-year-old, who was committed as a prospective player from 1860 Munich in 2017, will soon make a professional debut. In the "Wolves", the professional training guests Tim Siersleben (19) and Luca Horn (21) each made 50 percent jumps to 150,000 euros (for all new market values at Wolfsburg II).

    Defender Marvin Senger (20) is the focus of the brown-whites themselves. His role as a regular in the U23 of St. Pauli has been repeatedly interrupted this season by nominations for the FCSP second division squad. For the first time, its market value rises to a six-digit figure.

    https://www.transfermarkt.de/rl-nor...sh-sengers-lohn-bei-st-pauli/view/news/355351

    I hope Wolfsburg II get 3rd Liga promotion and for 00 1.93m CB Senger makes pro debut. Issue with Pauli is that their mass injuries bloated the squad. Once we hit Summer there will be downsizing and open chances for young players. Jos rates Loubongo who has pro contract and scored 2 in 2 in U19 since his comeback from injury. His 2nd goal was a great one too.

    for Wolfsburg even if Herrmann leaves still tons who could benefit from 3rd Liga. Glasner seems to like Siersleban and Justvan too. He even strongly considered loaning Siersleban to his home country of Austria but decided to keep him close instead.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    posting this for Czyborra future context.
    Atalanta wing-back Robin Gosens says Gian Piero Gasperini “asks a lot of us, but if you trust him he can make you a better player.”

    Gosens gave an interview to La Gazzetta dello Sport, and talked about La Dea’s Champions League run.

    “I never expected to get the last 16 of the Champions League with this shirt,” Gosens told La Gazzetta.

    “Gasperini really asks a lot of us and it isn’t easy to give it to him all the time, but if you listen to him he will make you become a better player.”
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -looks like 03-Wirtz is credited with 2 assists on his U19 debut vs Schalke U19. The moment the other coach in the world renown Elgert praises you highly you know he did extremely well. Seems like he was deployed at LW too.
    -on another Fruchtl note, it makes sense now that he could have legit EPL interest. If a 20 year old is good enough to be Liverpool #2, he's likely good enough to be #1 for some of the lower EPL clubs. Although he's better off staying in Germany or go to Eredivisie somewhere closer and not as much pressure as EPL.

    -More on Fein.
    Midfield jewel convinced at HSV
    Decision finally made: Bavaria brings youngsters back to Munich in the summer

    Adrian Fein is still playing in the second division at HSV - and is playing big there. U21 coach Stefan Kuntz praises the Bayern jewel, whose future is set for summer.

    FC Bayern youngster Adrian Fein is currently playing on loan for HSV - and is developing splendidly there.

    A decision about his future has been made.
    U21 coach Stefan Kuntz trusts him to also play a role at Bayern.
    Alphonso Davies serves as an example of how a young player could enrich FCB. Munich - The broken cheekbone was patched up with an operation, the special mask sits and is already used in rehabilitation training - the derby with HSV against St. Pauli on Saturday is still too early for Adrian Fein (20). So Fein will never again enjoy a north derby in Hamburg's Volkspark Stadium.

    Because: In the summer, the Bayern loan will definitely go back to Munich, which is why Fein's contract was prematurely extended to 2023 in late December. The HSV officials have already been informed about this step and respect the decision of the midfielder. Sport director Hasan Salihamidzic and chief scout Marco Neppe convinced the home grown company with a detailed sporting concept of a return to Säbener Straße.

    A shining example of Alphonso Davies: does Adrian Fein start at Bayern?
    The entire club tried to make a comeback in Munich and gave him the feeling that he could play a role with the record champions in the future. Using the example of Alphonso Davies, Fein has seen how quickly a young player can suddenly become important for FCB *. With his size of 1.86 meters, Fein can at least give the Munich midfield center a physicality that is currently not available with Joshua Kimmich and Thiago.

    Stefan Kuntz, who trains Fein at the U 21, believes that he can move to Bayern, as he reveals in an interview with tz: “With Adrian you immediately saw that playing practice is essential. Gaming practice is all that old. He quickly took on a very dominant role at Hamburger SV. In my view, he is often responsible for ensuring that the match plan is implemented on the offensive, in the game structure. ”

    Bayern: Adrian Fein is compared to Bastian Schweinsteiger
    Kuntz continues: “Adri is a quiet representative of his guild, a thoughtful young man. Now it is a matter of regaining a foothold after his injury so that he can later call on his performance in an even greater pressure situation during the ascent fight. "

    Fein is currently completely hiding his future in Munich, he absolutely wants to leave HSV as a promotion hero. Because of his playing style as a six-player (aggressive duel management, game setup from the depth, flying balls to relocate the game), Fein is often compared to the former Bayern idol Bastian Schweinsteiger. Starting next summer, Fein can show whether he lives up to this praise at FCB.
    https://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/a...hsv-hamburger-sv-transfer-leihe-13551710.html

    1-Not the 1st time he's been compared to Basti
    2-I looked it up, Michael Rensing (GK) was the last Bayern player to be part of the German U21 set up like in U21 Euro back in 2006 dang that will make it 15 years in 2021........... All the others either skipped U21 or were at different clubs at that point in time.
    3-I'm curious as hell to know the "detailed sporting concept" for tons of others in U15-II, lol.
    4-It's interesting when one thinks about it.:p:whistling:
    Fein=gets compared a lot to Basti
    Rhein=gets compared to Kroos and/or Thiago
    Tillman=I've seen people compare him to Pogba and he himself stated that's his role model.
    Mai, gets compared to Hummels sometimes and Fruchtl to Neuer.:p Fruchtl gets compared to Neuer and Unbehaun to ter Stegen LOL. We got the future replacements right here.:ROFLMAO:

    5-More Reason why Rhein won't be a DM even if he's sometimes playing there in U19, lol. Just like how no one at Bayern sees Tillman as future CF not even himself nor the club, even Sauer said so. They play him there to help improve his game and due to Zirkzee playing up.He has the physicality for it too. Sure you improve Tillman's attacking prowess and Rhein's defensive but at the same time it does continue to show issues with CF dev. All indications that Rhein will be CM and Tillman CM/AM. Even for dfb Tillman plays midfield.
    6-So from reports and official stuff the most rated Bayern players seem to be Fruchtl, Mai, Mbi, Fein, Gunther, Rhein, OBM, Dajaku, Tillman and Arp+Zirkzee/Singh (non-Germans) from U19-II. I would think Kuhn is likely in there too if and only if he joins permanently otherwise obviously no. And the reality they won't all make it at Bayern too, that is the hard truth.

    still think a lot of other U19-II are interesting but for now less likely to make it., Although who knows especially about the other 3 other 03s playing up their age groups in Herold, Bruckner and Musiala. Denk/Fust/Reinelt stayed behind in U17 because there are needed and Denk is captain that doesn't say anything against him. Again it ain't Bayern or bust. 3rd Liga will boost everyone whether they succeed in making it or not. Bayern II is heavily scouted....
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    promising RB/LB 00-Vagnoman, established himself in XI pre-injury. Update, should be able to get back his RB position since Gladbach plan with the on loan 00 CB/RB Beyer next season. His comeback seems to be getting closer.

    Vagnoman's plan: win the derby, move up, extend the contract
    Like all other players, I also advise him to look to see where he gets the most playing time at the highest possible level. Bayern and Adrian have to weigh it up together, ”said Kuntz at Sport1. This means the future of Adrian Fein. The midfielder has extended his contract with Bayern in winter and is due to return to Säbener Strasse in summer after borrowing from HSV. The only question is whether the defensive midfielder will have the chance to have enough playing time there - or whether he can be loaned out again. Maybe even to HSV, where Josha Vagnoman, a national team colleague from Fein, firmly believes in his future. "I know that everything comes of its own accord," says Vagnoman, while he sips his drink in the "Raute" stadium restaurant with a view of the Volkspark Stadium. And he doesn't leave it at just one sentence, but adds: "If you put football and development in the first place and always do everything you can - the rest will come by itself."

    The interesting thing about this statement: Josha Vagnoman knows very well what he is talking about. He already had lucrative offers from large clubs a year and a half ago. From England, among others. A signature back then would have been enough to have him financially borrowed forever. However, after consulting with his advisor and his closest confidante, his father, Vagnoman decided not to. "Money is never number one," says father Karaboue, who had now joined us with tea. “Josha was not brought up like that and never thought like that himself. He knows that football comes first. And in second and third place too. Only when he plays can he end up being rewarded. ”That was one of the reasons why both Vagnoman Junior and HSV declined at the time. The U20 international stayed and celebrated his first assignment under Christian Titz on September 18, 2018 with the professionals. At half-time he was exchanged for Dresden. Because power.

    Vagnoman back on the court - still without a ball
    "The boy is so cool - he doesn't care whether he plays against Borussia Dortmund in front of 50 spectators in youth or in front of 80,000." Vagnoman smiles when I confront him with this statement by Christian Titz from before the game against Dresden. After all, Vagnoman's starting debut against Dynamo followed eleven games without a bet. Only the new trainer Hannes Wolf suddenly put him back on. It was strange, Vagnoman said of the time, “but I'm patient. Always had - and still does. ”He also has to. Because he will still have to live without football for a few weeks. At least without the ball. "Running is slowly starting again," says Vagnoman, who completed running training on the field and outside the fitness area for the first time on Tuesday. Training with the ball is still out of the question. As much as he would like to play the derby on Saturday in the Volkspark Stadium.

    "Such a derby is really cool," Vagnoman recalls his first game in the starting line-up under current coach Dieter Hecking. In front of 29,546 spectators in the sold-out Millerntor Stadium, plus one-week preliminary Derby reports and ecstatic conditions as the teams emerge. "I can still remember it very well," said Vagnoman, who also contradicts the Titz thesis that he is always and always freezing cold. “At the beginning of the game, I noticed what was going on around me. That was awesome. ”Result: Vagnoman was impressed, he played hesitantly and made mistakes. Completely normal for a man just 18 years old in his first derby - logically. But in this case it only took 30 minutes for Vagnoman to catch himself and deliver a decent game. “Is that so?” He asks me, “I wasn't happy myself because we lost. It took me almost a week to process all of this. ”With success - because the following weekend Vagnoman scored his first profit goal…

    Vagnoman's rise began in the derbyhin game
    On Saturday there will be revenge against FC St. Pauli - without him. Vagnoman has been suffering from a broken foot since the 95th minute of the DFB Cup match against VfB Stuttgart in late October 2019. "It was just a quick turn and zack," Vagnoman recalls the moment that has condemned him to rehabilitation training ever since. "I knew immediately that something was broken. I tried to continue - but I couldn't sprint anymore and had to get out. ”Vagnoman had just become an important building block in Hecking’s system and had taken the place of the long-term injured Jan Gyamerah. "The coach relied on me and gave me a lot of trust," said Vagnoman, "that was a really good feeling at the time. Everything was going in the right direction. "

    The HSV also recognized Vagnoman's potential and offered him a vert
    extension of his contract until 2021. In the end, it was said that there would be agreement and that the contract should be signed during the winter break. But he didn't. "I want to stay here very much," says Vagnoman, who is only concerned with the sporting perspective. He leaves the rest to the advisor and father. "HSV is my home club and I think I can develop here," says Vagnoman, who also celebrated his premiere with Kuntz in the U21 national team shortly after his Hecking premiere for HSV.

    Announced contract extension takes place
    And in turn, he will regret how Vagnoman sees his future: "Play, learn, play more - and learn more", says Vagnoman's plan at HSV. At least if the club and its adviser can finally agree. Small details are still lacking - but they are still lacking. And to get rid of the confusion, I wanted to know from Jonas Boldt when the new contract would be signed. And he answered - as always in such matters - evasively. "As long as nothing is signed, there will be no water levels from me," said the HSV sports director, who emphasized again that the HSV still wants to extend the contract with the convalescent. Nothing has changed about that. Ergo: Both sides want it - but they don't make it. Not yet.

    The good thing: Vagnoman himself has no time pressure anyway. It will be out for a few more weeks. As I said at the weekend against FC St. Pauli. "It's a shame," said Vagnoman. But just as he dealt with the first large and financially seductive change requests, he is now proceeding too: patiently. What is important is not the fast moment, but the long term. And there he has the goal of being completely fit before he is back on the pitch. First the team, then he - says Vagnoman. That means: Only when he can help the team does he want to get back in full. His goal is to still play in the league this season. When? Vagnoman leaves that open. “That comes when I continue to work hard patiently. My goal is to celebrate the ascent on the court with jersey and buffers. Let's do it - and I can do it - I'm very satisfied. ”And his contract? That will solve itself. This is indicated by all parties. Even if it will take some patience ...

    In this sense, see you tomorrow. In training today, Vagnoman also lacked the current regular on the right-back position, Jordan Beyer. However, after the flu is over, the team training is expected again tomorrow, while Vagnoman is in the rehabilitation center of the UKE ("Athleticum"). Vagnoman worked there for three months and three weeks. Sometimes with the other injured, but very often alone with the rehabilitation trainers. “Now I'm back in the stadium, close to the team. Seeing the boys every day again - that alone is a good feeling. ”And if he could win the derby after his first training session on the pitch at the weekend, the week would be perfect for him. His tip? "We win 2-0. Meet Sonny Kittel and Bakery Jatta. “Well then. Sounds good. Like so much at Vagnoman right now.
    https://www.rautenperle.com/content/vagnomans-plan-derbysieg-aufsteigen-vertrag-verlaengern

    let's hope 03-Andresen manages to make 1st team at LB in future while Vagnoman at RB!!! Everytime I saw Andresen play he looked good. Always found these comments interesting too from Nov.

    "Have seen Andresen against RB Leipzig U17, he caught my attention there with his speed, dribbling and serenity. He does not live off his physique, but he is not a linnet. He did not seem to me like a typical full-back but more like a wing-attacker. Snatched the ball in Hz 2 once, picked up speed and ran slalom through 3-4 RB player, but then I think was stuck on 16er.

    Since you have to wait and see how he then develops in the U19 next year, but currently certainly not wrongly a regular player at the DFB."
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    so what exactly is 05-Ibrahimovic
    German-Kosovo/Albanian-Bosnian???

    no way in hell dfb lets him play for anyone else, he makes constant German U15 camps. Made his U17 debut for Bayern at age of like 14 and 2 months years old. Won constant best player awards at tourney including one where his team ended up in 8th place, you rarely see that happening.

    but it does reiterate my point, if all German-Kosovar play for Kosovo they will be a ton stronger. That list is only Bayern......
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    04-Moukoko for Germany U19, I recall it was something we discussed here as the best solution. 00, 02, 03, 04 don't have CF issues but 01 does.

    Dortmund's young forward could make his debut in March
    Moukoko appointed to the DFB's U-19 selection for the first time


    In the A-Junior Bundesliga, Youssoufa Moukoko caused a sensation with his goal streak: he scored 29 goals in 17 games. Now the 15-year-old has been nominated for the U-19 selection of the DFB.

    Youssoufa Moukoko
    Youssoufa Moukoko will join the German U-19 national team for the first time in March.

    As the association confirmed on Friday, Moukoko will be nominated for the course in March by Meikel Schönweitz, head coach of the national teams at the DFB. Most recently, the striker played selection games in October 2017 (for the U 16). Afterwards, he was no longer taken into account "in close coordination between all those involved," as Schönweitz said. "Now we have jointly decided that the right time for the next development step at national team level has come," added Schönweitz.

    Moukoko could make his debut after the course, which takes place in the Franconian Herzogenaurach, at the end of March. Then the U-19 selection will hit Austria, Wales and Serbia in the European Championship qualification. The games are of great importance as only the group winners of this round qualify for the final tournament in Northern Ireland in July.

    Moukoko scored 29 goals in 17 games for BVB's U19 this season and also contributed eight assists. Already in 2017, when he was nominated for the U 16 at the age of 14, there was a lot of hype around him. The Cameroon-born striker, who had become top scorer in the U-17 Bundesliga in 2018 and 2019, quickly earned a reputation as a child prodigy.
    https://www.kicker.de/770294/artikel/moukoko_erstmals_in_die_u_19_auswahl_des_dfb_berufen

    we have even less options for 01 with Gudra and Glatzel both out injured. Leaves you with S.Muller and Jastremski (better as sub CF for dfb).

    Makanda/Cakar, Konigsdorffer, Dursun,Ruckert etc we will have to wait to see how they do at pro level before they likely get any dfb call up.
     
    Dang Son Tung repped this.
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #3311 Ger90, Feb 21, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2020
    -00 Daedlow looks close to making pro debut at HR. They have like 4 00s they like.
    https://www.liga-drei.de/hansa-rostock-bringt-haertel-daedlow/

    -Handwerker interview.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/1-fc-nuernberg-interview-mit-tim-handwerker/

    -In not surprising update, Munster U19 coach Arne Barez indicates that 01-Mika is the closest to pros although what sucks is 1st team Munster is headed for relegation to RL.....They are 7 pts away from safety......

    Who in your team is going to jump into the professional area?

    Barez: One example is our midfielder Marvin Mika, who also last equalized in the game at Viktoria Köln. He has already sniffed at the professionals and completed some training sessions and test games with the third division squad.
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #3312 Ger90, Feb 21, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2020
    Dajaku, OBM, Mai and Arp are all on the Bayern bench today in 1BL. Let's hope at least 1 comes off the bench.

    OBM is the only one yet to make 1BL debut from the 4.
     
  13. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    https://www.bfv.de/mannschaften/012DK6U2EK000000VTVG0001VU5LEIAC

    Sons of Miro Klose, Thorsten Fink , Christian Nerlinger and Arjen Robben all played for
    TSV GRÜNWALD (at different levels)

    Luan Klose (2005) is a standout. 22 goals in 12 games.

    second top scorer is Noah Klose , who scored 5; 3rd top scorer is Benedikt Fink.

    still not sure if Luan will turn pro tho. They aren’t sure yet
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #3314 Ger90, Feb 21, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2020
    boooo, all 4 unused as Bayern beat Paderborn 3-2. Coman was garbage out there, don't think OBM or Dajaku would have been as bad and ineffective as he was. I still think best chance for the Bayern youngsters to get 1st team game time, will end up being Bayern winning 1BL as fast as possible assuming they win the league. Then whatever number of games remain will be irrelevant result wise and you can experiment more than now.

    00 W Jastrzembski (Winter loan, his 2nd cap today, 1st was like subbed in 90+.) came on the 29th min today. He played really well in LW vs Bayern. Not sure if that counts as assist but the 2nd Paderborn goal was his work. Some sites count rebounds goals from GK save as assists.
    https://streamja.com/nq3e

    British commentator
    "Jastrzembski has been fantastic since he came on."

    Michel had a great chance to lay it off to an empty Jastrzembski at some point but he took way way too much time and he was closed off. Jastrzembski was at the back end open net.....:rolleyes:

    would say that Jastrzembski, Arp and Massimo all deserve Germany recalls and 1st time U20 call ups in March. The 1st 2 weren't called up due to injury issues in Fall but now are fit.

    Paderborn's 99-Kilian should be fit soon too.
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Interesting player but this season between red card issues and now this......


    Ingolstadt are 2BL promotion candidates, we could see him and the young Ingolstadt players play higher level next season.

    -2021 U21 Euro contenders=Keller, Weiss (still no pro debut, pro contract), Kaya, Diawusie
    -2023 U21 Euro=Schellenberg (3rd GK) Sussek, Pintidis, Bilbija
    -2025 U21 Euro= 02-Rohl essentially signed pro contract, club is sure he'll make pros in future.

    Trained with 1st team from Summer-present
    -2023 U21 Euro=Pokauke, P.Herrmann, Neuberger, Kraus, Schroder, Hawkins.

    P.Herrmann only reason he's not in 1st team is lack of space. But he's attracting attention from other clubs due to his playing in OL. Either they give him pro contract or likely to end up in 3rd Liga next season.

    Hawkins, the club seems to rate him highly and view him as difference maker, although might as well stick to the already poached by another country in USA.

    another name Meikis seems to have been picking up steam in Feb. Was poached from Unterhaching U19 last season where the 1.87m CF scored 16 goals in 14 games in lower U19 level. Unterhaching rated him and plenty of 3rd Liga clubs wanted to poach him. Was said at the time that he will be slowly introduced by Ingolstadt to men area.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    more on 01-Stiller.

    Clarified 18-year-old for more defensive stability
    Angelo, the silent winner - Bavaria's new top talent

    Angelo Stiller embodies FC Bayern II's flying high. The 18-year-old has been under coach Sebastian Hoeneß since the start of the second half of the season.

    Angelo Stiller embodies the high flight of FC Bayern II.
    The 18-year-old has been under coach Sebastian Hoeneß since the beginning of the second half of the season
    More defensive stability leads to success.

    He is currently the epitome of the amateurs of Bayern Munich: Angelo Stiller. The defensive midfielder has been under coach Sebastian Hoeneß since the start of the second half of the season. So far, the small Bavarians have won every game in the 3rd division and are getting closer to their goal of avoiding relegation.

    Angelo Stiller embodies the high flight of FC Bayern II
    Angelo Stiller was allowed to play against SpVgg Unterhaching in the third division for ten minutes before the winter break. The rest of the season he kicks for the U19 of the German record champions. After the FC Bayern amateurs hibernated three points before the relegation zone, the second half of the season was a success. The youngsters have already scored 14 goals after four matchdays - and only conceded three goals in return. With Angelo Stiller, Sebastian Hoeneß has finally found "defensive stability" for his system with the narrow diamond.
    The 18-year-old currently acts as a six at table night. “Under coach Hoeneß, I'm more of a defensive middle player. I was more active on the U19, ”said Stiller in an interview after the goal gala against Halle. The defensive midfielder often stands between the defenders for more stability in the back rows. So the Bavarians can run up with a chain of five when they are under pressure. For the offensive style of play, the full-backs can then move up, while Stiller acts as a three-way chain with the central defenders. “I always play against the ball, with my eyes forward or back. I always talk to my teammates about whether I should push in at the back or be active in front of the counter protection, ”said the stiller.

    Angelo Stiller doesn't want to hear any hymns of praise and only focuses on football
    The 18-year-old exudes calm in his actions on the field, which you rarely see in the professional field at such a young age. He seems very clear in the duels and always builds up the game in peace. Trainer Sebastian Hoeneß had already praised the youngster. "I just play my game, no matter what opponent or under what conditions," said Angelo Stiller.
    The youngster does not want to know anything about hymns of praise either. He remains focused and is already on the next game with his head. “I don't read reports about myself either, especially before the game. It is important that we win as a team and give everything. If I play a good game on the side, it will be a successful day. ”

    In the next game, the amateurs of the German record champions are visiting Chemnitzer FC. The Saxons are currently in sixteenth place. Can Bayern fans look forward to their fifth consecutive victory with Angelo Stiller in the ranks? “It's nice to have played every game over 90 minutes since the start of the second half of the season. I want to thank him for the coach's trust with good performances, ”said Stiller.
    https://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/f...rainer-sebastian-hoeness-3-liga-13551070.html
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -5 Jahn U19 players seem to be training with the struggling Jahn II in OL.
    Tim Pager, striker Benedikt Fischer, Lukas Zieglmeier, Timo Meixner and Julian Ziegler
    https://www.fupa.net/berichte/ssv-j...-brutal-gruen-jahn-ii-vor-schwie-2618921.html

    U19 Bayernliga top scorers, lower U19 league. Seems like promotion to highest U19 level is between FCN U19 and Unterhaching U19.
    1-02 CF Shuranov, 28 goals in 13 games, poached by Ukraine, FCN U19
    2-01 CF Fischer, 14 goals in 11 games, the Jahn U19 one
    3-01 CF Moll, 13 goals in 12 games also FCN U19

    between Besong and Shuranov FC seems to be set in CFs.

    -02 Valdrin Konjuhi of 1860 U19, 10 goals in 11 games seems to be attracting attention including from 1860 Munich coach Kollner. He's also 1.90m tall. Of course with that name, German-Kosovo/Albania....

    speaking of 1860, 02 CB Lang seems fit again while 99-Niemann was was said by David Niedermeier to be future 1BL player back in Jan, scored in 2 consecutive games for struggling 1860. Currently at 2 goals and 1 assist in 6 games in 3rd Liga this season. Creeping in on the top of the team table. Kollner seems to not want to talk about him in order to keep hype down.
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    update from FCN on Muhl, Nurnberger, Hack and Willert.

    on 97-Muhl
    Like that of central defender Georg Margreitter, who suffered an ankle injury during training during the week and is out indefinitely. Asger Sörensen will take the place next to Konstantinos Mavropanos, even if Keller does not want to commit himself publicly: "Lukas Mühl is also doing a good job in training. This makes him an equally conceivable alternative."

    on 99-Nurnberger, a LB who seems to now play DM, lol. Well at least it means that both Nurnberger and Handwerker get to play XI.
    Geis is missing against Darmstadt
    Just before the defense, a change is also announced in the double six, Johannes Geis has to serve a yellow card. Even if its strong right foot is missing in standards, this should not be a decisive weakness in the game. On the one hand, this is due to Patrick Erras, who was surprisingly preferred to Fabian Nürnberger in Heidenheim because of his header strength and acted alongside Geis. And this is really good. "Tactically he did his job very, very well," says Keller, praising the long Schlaks, whose high level of intelligence was good for the team. At Nürnberger's side will be the man he recently pushed onto the bench - as mentioned for purely tactical reasons, because there was little to complain about about the 20-year-old's performances. The two are now forming a duo on Sunday that should complement each other well: here the calm, clever Erras, there the dynamic, fast Nuremberg.

    on 98-Hack, yeah he's likely headed to higher level in Summer. He saved their asses throughout the season. Had he not joined they would be in relegation zone now. He's FCN's version of H96's Maina, better with than without.
    But that's not all of the changes: After his yellow card suspension, Robin Hack is available again, which Keller should be just right. With Darmstadt, there is an opponent who is dazzlingly organized on the defensive. "His game against the ball is extremely good, so it will be difficult to find rooms," says Keller. So a case for Hack: The U-21 international has often made the difference with his dribble strength and speed, or at least saved a point. For example, at 3: 3 in the first half of the season in Darmstadt. There he met for the club for the first time - and this twice. At that time, however, the lilies acted differently, because they preferred an open visor instead of closed rooms.

    on 01 GK Willert
    Goalkeeper situation: Youngster Willert jumps in again
    Speaking of which: the topic of bad luck with injuries on the goalkeeper position is a constant favorite with the Franks. In an internal test against the U 21 during the week, Andreas Lukse, who had recovered from a torn muscle in his thigh after the winter break, injured himself at the adductors and has been out for an indefinite period. After Felix Dornebusch (elbow injury) and Patric Klandt (Achilles tendon tear) are still on the sick list, youngster Benedikt Willert (18) has to step in again, this time only as a back-up on the bench for Christian Mathenia.
    https://www.kicker.de/770348/artikel/nuernberg_mit_breiter_brust_und_hack

    don't think many II will get chance this season due to 1st team struggle. The club doesn't want 2 relegation in 2 successive seasons. Even though a bunch of FCN II already should be playing higher level by now.
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #3319 Ger90, Feb 22, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
    Jastrzembski credited with the assist it seems.

    meanwhile Bild ratings
    1 rating Gnabry
    2 rating Lewa, Srbeny, Michel, Zingerle (Munich born and Bayern Academy product now Paderborn #1), Jastrzembski

    5 players got 3 ratings and everyone else got 4-5.

    so does well for Paderborn vs Bayern but Hertha had no interest in dev him and dumped him on loan. It was Klinsmann axing like 10 players and Hertha's overspending that made him redundant at the club. But who wants to dev/integrate anymore???
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Incoming poached player, 99-Jakobs picks up an assist to make it 2-0 vs Hertha.
    https://streamja.com/0Agk

    really seems like besides Bayern and Dortmund that Koln are just beating everyone else they play, lol.
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    U17
    X2: Stuttgen (realized that he left Koln and joined FD, 3 goals in 2 games), Tshimuanga, Klein, Rolke, Grimm, Sanogo (04, keeps scoring), Tunc,
    Jacobi, Kurt (3 goals and 1 assist in 2 games since his comeback from injury), Vidovic
    X1: Bindemann, Kojic (04), Frommann, Gencoglu (back in XI and scored winner!!!), Gurpuz, Gedikli, Kalonji, Aourir (04), Haj-Yahya, Pesch (05), Haffke,
    Hadziavdic (04, double digits), Lopping, Eickhoff, Koppener, Abdul, Christel,
    Guner, Kurth, Ewald, Vilter, Karakas, Neziri, Leipold (04), Grimbs, Mrozek

    -05 Pesch seems to have scored and picked up 2 assists. Don't know about assist count but that's his 4th of the season....
    -05 Ibrahimovic continues to start for Bayern U17. While 04-Kabadayi keeps being compared to Ronaldo.....


    U19
    X2: Hartmann (let's hope he continues to pick it up), Rhein (03), Gunther (03)
    Yesilay, Sarpei
    X1: Loune, Makanda, Weiss, Calhanoglu #2, Dierke, Eitelwein, Lockl, Hollerbach (double digits), Caciel, Mistl, Hafner, Kleber, Voloder, Schroers, Schmokel, Dietrich,Gollnack, Momuluh, Beck, Seturski, Morgenstern, Stark
    OBM, Cuni, L.Muller, Jastremski, Kother, Siebert, Strobl, Fesenmeyer, Azhil

    -damn H96 trashed Dynamo 4-1 without Gudra, Stehle and Walbrecht. While Dynamo was only missing Konigsdorffer....
    -OBM closing in on Sud/Sudwest top scorer, while Gunther is fast approaching top 10 in league up an age group. Bayern played 5 03s in XI. Although 02-Mosandl looks to have gotten hurt.
    -03 Wirtz and Bayer trashed 2 consecutive teams 4-0 today, Munster U19. Pre-match the talk was all about how in the 1st game vs Munster they drew them 0-0 and that they were hoping with Wirtz they would unlock their defense.........LOL.

    RL
    Philipp (7th), Lengle (2nd), Burkardt (1 goal in 1 game, needs match practice after always being Mainz 1st unused bench), O.Wahling (3rd).

    post RL updates, sloth kicks in.
    -02 Egloff made his 2BL debut today playing 8 min in a 2-0 win. Seems to have played well and almost scored. While Massimo continues to do well. Will be hard for dfb to keep ignoring Egloff though. He doesn't look out of place at all at pro level even vs 1BL clubs. We could see Egloff and Massimo in 1BL next season too.
    -02-Thielmann was unused bench today in 1BL while 02 CF Beier got his 2nd 1BL game today as an 8 min sub in a 1-1 draw vs Gladbach. Geiger is back from injury but was unused, hopefully he gets back into XI soon. Meanwhile 02 CF Woltemade also played his 2nd 1BL game coming on in 90th vs Dortmund in a 2-0 loss.
    -will be curious to see when N.Schlotterbeck, Tempelmann, GL Itter and Keitel get integration at Freiburg? Mostly unused bench. N.Schlotterbeck's best chance will likely be when Koch leaves in Summer....
    -00 Lungwitz and 00 Kehr seem to be closing in on pro debuts at Furth. Not going to post about 2BL unused bench.
    -Both D.Otto and Wintzheimer started today for their respective clubs in 2BL and both won today. Kleindienst also picked up 2 yellow=red, could be more chances for D.Otto next weekend. Janelt's scored Bochum's winning goal in 90+, massive as Bochum moves away from relegation zone. Also good to see Leitsch's continuing to start for Bochum after being out injured for ages.....
    -HSV without Fein lose 2-0 in derby vs Pauli, Becker in XI played 35 min before being subbed out, Injured? It was 2-0 when he was subbed out and seems to have been involved in the 2nd goal.

    seriously with how Hertha keep embarrassing themselves, when will 02-Samardzic get 1st team chances?
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Janelt on the best moment of his career: "Simply awesome"

    For a long time it looked like a 1-1 draw between VfL Bochum and Dynamo Dresden. But in the last minute of stoppage time, Vitaly Janelt headed the Bochum winning goal and ensured a small cushion on the relegation places.

    "Perhaps that was the most beautiful moment of my young career", Janelt describes on the club website his feelings after the last minute winner against Dynamo Dresden. "In this situation in which we are currently in the last second and after the annoying 1-1 equalizer, it's just awesome." The situation raised by the match winner has now eased somewhat for the West Germans. With the victory, VfL now ranks four points ahead of the relegation place.

    However, the air created could quickly become scarce again, so Janelt says: "Take it with you! Now we want to take on Sandhausen." After the second consecutive away win, VfL want to score again at home on Castroper Straße.
    https://www.kicker.de/770409/artike...hoensten_moment_seiner_karriere_einfach_geil_
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bremen CFs
    05 CF Joshua Dudock of Bremen U15, pre-Winter break he scored 17 goals. Post Winter break, 4 goals in 2 games and basically already at 21 goals.




    between 02-Woltemade, 03-Koppener, 04-Topp, 05-Dudock, Bremen seems to have interesting CFs also 98-J.Eggestein and 00-Ihorst.

    -J.Eggestein is 1st team squad member.
    -Ihorst has pro contract and 1st choice in II also made his 1BL debut already this season. One of the players that the club is likely to trust in 2-3 years. ALTHOUGH if Bremen get relegation to 2BL who knows.....
    -Woltemade too good for U19 and already making numerous 1st team squads and 2 1BL games
    -Koppener, doing well for U17,
    -Topp, by the break he had 17 goals in 15 games in U16 and who knows how many assists. If it wasn't for lack of space he would already be playing U17 this season. Constantly wins top scorer or even best player in tourneys. And leading his U16 region too. Even scored for dfb.
    -Dudock leading his U15 region in scoring table it seems.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    some Germans abroad updates.
    Italy U19.
    -01 Borges was unused bench today in a 3-1 win for Milan U19. Was 1st time he made squad since November as he got injured for over 3 months.

    EPL2
    -Looks like 99-Jenz is fit again and recently played for Fulham U23. Made his XI comeback in 2-0 win over Aston Villa U23. Seems like he was also captain. The 1.9m CB really should make career progress this Summer. Always see Jenz name mentioned when people talk about Fulham U23.
    -Now fitness wise, all that's left is comebacks for Glatzel and Shabani. Sucks for Shabani that he injured himself on his 1st team debut for Wolves and the club seemed really high on him too.

    English 4th division
    -On loan GK 98-Benda continues to start as Swindon Town continue to lead the league for promotion to League One.

    Dutch 2nd division
    -00 GK Novakovic started his 2nd consecutive game for Roda both were 2-0 losses.

    Austrian 2nd division
    -Gurleyen on loan made his debut in XI for Liefering. While Boller continues to start every game for Juniors. Last I read, was said that Boller was doing well. Wonder when the 1st team chances come, this Summer?

    Championship
    -00 Ludewig on loan continues to start for Barnsley, played full game today in a 1-0 win, 2nd consecutive win too. Still 5 pts away from safety though. Will be interesting to see where he ends up come Summer time.

    Eredivisie
    -Kohlert assisted for Willem II in a 4-2 loss.
    -Passlack on loan seemed to have drawn PK that was scored in a 2-1 loss.
    -seems more likely that Schreck and Saglam will get more game time end of season/next season-onwards. Would be nice to see both breakthrough next season for realz.

    Belgium 1st division
    -98 GK Bansen started for Zulte in a 1-1 draw, his 3rd league game of season and 11th as a pro.


    -99 GK Moser on loan to Cercle Brugge continues to start every game. His 5th consecutive pro game. Today they won 1-0, massive win as Cercle Brugge bottom of the whole league now moves out of the lone relegation spot!!! He's so far conceded 5 goals in 5 games and 2 consecutive clean sheets.


    Question: How many German young GKs abroad?
    Answer: 4 and 4/4 played in XI this matchday!!!

    2/16 Belgian club's #1 were German young GKs. Cercle Brugge have option to buy on their #1 Moser. While Bansen and Novakovic always seemed earmarked to be future #1s at their clubs. Benda was confirmed by Championship club Swansea 1st team coach that he's doing really well and a potential #1 for their club come next season. And tons of people seem to say that Benda has future EPL prospects down the line and already attracted EPL interest. Although he should play Championship and do well there before any EPL, he still young.

    reality become #1 in Belgian will make it easier to get breakthrough in higher level. How many years would Moser and Bansen have wasted playing 3rd Liga-RL in Germany before making any real upward movements???

    also issue with 1BL especially is that clubs go into the foreign market for GKs too and there are limited spots. GKs can't all make it in Germany, those are the hard facts.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    speaking of U15s, the bros of
    99-Dardai and 02-Dardai, aka 05-Bence Dardai
    03-Rolke (U17 Nord/Nordost leading scorer), aka 05-Oliver Rolke

    from that list 99-Dardai is better than RL should finally make career progress in Summer while 02-Dardai is well seen at the club and recently made his RL debut. 1st time mentioned but in the 02-Dardai RL debut he played for the 1st time with his older bro, clean sheet+99-Dardai scoring too.

    seem to be doing really well this season. but post Winter break
    05-Rolke scored 5 goals in last 2 games, takes his tally to 17 goals
    05-Dardai scored 4 goals in last 2 games, takes his tally to 14 goals

    Dardai also scored 11 goals in a cup while Rolke scored 7.......

    who can forget the Kade bros?
    99-Kade always does well in Union Berlin 1st team friendlies but never given chance. Always unused when he makes squad. Recall it's been reported that Union coach is like Funkel, doesn't trust players with no real experience. Would guess once they secure 1BL safety he'll get chances in 1BL and a potential loan in Summer is also decent chance. Reality is players like him and 99-Dardai could be too late in terms of Germany U21 simply because by the time they make real progress it's likely 2021-onwards. Unless they get a 2BL at worse loan or 1st division abroad.

    while 04-Kade seems to be a pretty great prospect. Very highly rated and doing very well vs older players too.

    you also got 01-Michelbrink and 05-Michelbrink. Don't know much about the 04 one but the 01's issue is club already gave 01-Albrecht pro contract. And one always sees high regard for 02-Dirkner (already made RL debut) too.
     

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