2020 Optimism Thread

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  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Sorry, but Djordje at CB would not be a good idea. ;):thumbsup:
     
  2. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Upgrade CAM, please. BTW, thanks for the scoops, @TyrusRose.
     
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  3. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Definitely like what Heitz and his team have done thus far (with the caveat that we haven't seen these guys plays yet). The onus shifts to Wicky in a big way now. Getting his team to play his system, immediately and well, well, that's not going to be easy.
     
  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I look forward to talking tactics as the season progresses. I felt like we haven’t been able to do that since Klopas.
     
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  5. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    MLS gives out awards and stuff for this kind of thing before MLS Cup every season if I'm remembering right. Have to be in contention. Today's announcement got a good laugh out of me.
     
  6. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    Collier for Golden Boot imo
     
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  7. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Interestingly and at least to me quite surprisingly Collier has apparently been doing quite well in preseason games. Sapong as well (less surprising). Collier Part 2 is..better?
     
  8. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    He’s been opportunistic. If he doesn’t score, he’d probably be the worst player on the pitch.
     
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  9. I’m not disagreeing with you, but there’s times you could say that about Messi & Cristiano Ronaldo too. At least Messi passes well.
     
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  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Mentioning Elliot Collier in the same breath, paragraph, thread or anywhere as Messi and Ronaldo is disingenuous and ridiculous.

    The only things they have in common is that all are mammals, walk upright and earn a living by kicking a soccer ball.

    I doubt Messi has been "the worst player on the pitch" since he was 7 years old and then only when player with a U-15 team.

    I just don't think "there are times you could say that about" either of them.
     
  11. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    There are definitely times Ronaldo sort of disappears for long stretches of the game, but then explodes for 2 goals in 5 minutes or something. This is especially true with Portugal.
     
  12. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    "The Kiwi Chicharito"
     
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  13. If Collier finds a place on the bench then the FO has failed.
     
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  14. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I saw some posts on Twitter saying that Collier might start over Frankowski. [emoji1787]
     
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  15. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    Sure but Collier would easily be the worst player on the pitch in these games if that one opportunity didn’t happen. I do not see those opportunities happening consistently for much longer. I’m rooting for him, but he’s more or less the same as before to be honest.
     
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  16. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    The logo gets red carded at the opening whistle
     
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  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Sure, but "the worst player on the pitch"?!?!
    That was the comment, not whether the player disappears, all attacking players (except, maybe some CAMs) do that.
     
  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well, there's your problem!

    Agreed.
     
  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Hairy, seedy and prone to spoiling?
    (actually, kiwi fruit are pretty good)
     
  20. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I like the preseason little video the team put out.
     
  21. Stojanovic done.
    Gimenez likely.

    AM seems a bit weak but doable.

    Need depth at CB, and a backup winger.

    No big name(s) that will fill SF but not too bad*.

    So many unknowns though. I've never have heard of any of these new signings. But I like the youth movement.

    I think this club is going in the right direction, which is the best I have said in the 4 years I've been a STH.



    *Pending on field results.
     
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  22. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This flurry of recent activity has me a lot more excited about the season. Can Wicky get these guys to come together quickly?
     
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  23. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I agree 100%. To paraphrase from a great movie, “I love the smell of competence in the morning. It smells like ... victory!”

    This all feels like, dare I say it, a plan.
     
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  24. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Chemistry is tricky. Very tricky. Especially, with a stuff-ton of new players. A new manager (system) means our vets are kind of starting over too. But we're in MLS (and preseason), so I choose to be optimistic. Plus, the dark, dark cloud is finally gone!
     
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  25. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    It's also a league where you can have a shaky, inconsistent start, and then get hot late and still be in a position to make the playoffs, and potentially win.
     
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