Who is the biggest CLUTCH in football history?

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  1. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    Which player, in your opinion, has always performed well/stood out in his most important matches?

    For example; Gunnar Nordahl has scored 11 goals in 11 european matches for milan, including a hattrick in one Latin Cup final and a goal in his other. Together with his 1948 olympic victory, he has won and scored in 3 of his 3 international finals. In the olympic final, he supposedly dribbled past a few yugoslavians before he hit home. Unfortunately, there's no footage of these heroics.
     
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  2. AD78

    AD78 Member+

    Jul 17, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I am far from a Chelsea fan but this is impressive re Drogba at Chelsea:

    2005 - A goal in the League cup final that Chelsea won
    2007 - Both goals in a 2-1 win over Arsenal in the League cup final
    2007 - Winner against Man United in extra time of FA Cup final
    2009 - Equaliser in FA Cup final against Everton that Chelsea went on to win
    2010 - Winner in FA Cup final against Portsmouth
    2012 - Winner against Liverpool in FA Cup final
    2012 - Champions League, late equaliser to take the game to extra time and then the deciding penalty in the shoot out against Bayern Munich
     
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  3. el-torero

    el-torero Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    malaysia
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    must be clutch in term of goal only ........
    or can be in the form of assist or goalkeeping save or others?
     
  4. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    sure, if the player comes up with the saves or assists in the big games
     
  5. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Here's some modern players against big clubs:

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    Drogba, Ronaldinho, Henry, Ronaldo and C.Ronaldo all seem to be rather close each other, Messi in complete different league. Though this doesn't take into account how good your team played. (atm Juventus, A. Madrid, PSG and Dortmund stats are missing from everyone other than Messi and Cronaldo.

    Here's World Cup career related to team edge:

    World Cup Career

    Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

    Messi 18 (5 + 6 + 7) out of 22 team goals = 82% (+1 SO goal)
    Rossi 17 (9 + 3 + 5) out of 21 team goals = 81%
    G.Müller 22 (14 (1p) + 6 + 2) out of 30 team goals = 73%
    Cruyff 11 (4 + 4 + 3) out of 15 team goals = 73%
    Romario 8 (5 + 3 + 0) out of 11 team goals = 73% (+1 SO goal)
    Eusebio 12 (9 (4p) + 2 + 1) out of 17 team goals = 71%
    Schillaci 7 (6 (1p) + 1 + 0) out of 10 team goals = 70%
    Pele 22 (12 + 8 + 2) out of 37 team goals = 59%
    Maradona 19 (8 + 8 + 3) out of 32 team goals = 59% (+1 SO miss and goal)
    Zico 11 (5 (1p) + 5 + 1) out of 19 team goals = 58% (+1 SO goal)
    Kempes 17 (6 + 6 + 5) out of 30 team goals = 57%
    T.Müller 18 (10 (1p) + 6 + 2) out of 34 team goals = 53%
    Zidane 9 (5 (2p) + 2 + 2) out of 17 team goals = 53% (+1 SO goal)
    Ronaldo 21 (15 (1p) + 6 + 0) out of 41 team goals = 51% (+1 SO goal)
    Klose 20 (16 + 3 + 1) out of 42 team goals = 48%
    C.Ronaldo 6 (3 (1p) + 2 + 1) out of 16 team goals = 38% (+1 SO goal)
    Charlton 6 (4 + 0 + 2) out of 20 team goals = 30%

    Again Messi seems to be the most cluch player.
     
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  6. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  7. TotaalVoetbal

    TotaalVoetbal Member

    Jan 25, 2015
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Those Drogba stats aren't correct. He's scored 3 goals against Juventus in his career. Possibly more.
     
  8. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    (atm Juventus, A. Madrid, PSG and Dortmund stats are missing from everyone other than Messi and Cronaldo.)
     
  9. Sir_Artur

    Sir_Artur Member

    Nov 21, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    then, Speigler of Israel is the most clutch player, his percentage is 100%. 1 out of 1 team goals in WC in the entire history of Israel. ratio or percentage does not show how important you are, at most, it can show how your team is dependant on you. (not always though)

    Badda Bing has great comments.
     
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  10. Sir_Artur

    Sir_Artur Member

    Nov 21, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    hmm, what about starting with something like this?! http://www.averageopposition.com/2012/08/top-50-big-game-scorers-5-1.html but this criteria included only these matches: International: World Cup, European Championships, Copa America
    Club: European Cup/Champions League, Copa Libertadores, UEFA Cup/Europa League, European Cup Winners Cup

    may be (and for sure) many important matches were not taken into account e.g Messi scored 21 goals against Real madrid but only 2 of them are taken into account on that criteria but match against Real Madrid is an important one we can say. and now, it is time to determine a criteria. anyway, even if we counted every derby and toop 5 team matches I very doubt there is somebody who surpasses Pele in terms of scoring, assisting and contributions in big matches. I guess the answer is Pele.
     
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  11. Raute

    Raute Member

    Jun 9, 2015
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Pele?

    1958 WC 4 matches / 6 goals 1 assist
    1959 CA 6 mateches / 8 goals
    1962 WC 2 matches / 1 goal 1 assist
    1966 WC 2 matches / 1 goal
    1970 WC 6 matches / 4 goals 6 assists

    Taca Brasil 30 goals in 33 matches
    Copa Libertadores 17 goals in 15 matches
    Intercontinental Cup 7 goals in 3 matches
     
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  12. AD78

    AD78 Member+

    Jul 17, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    This is not too bad:

    Samuel Eto'o

    Cameroon
    Goal in 2-2 drawn in 2000 African Cup of nations final, Cameroon won on penalties

    Mallorca
    Two goals in 2003 Copa Del Rey final win

    Barcelona
    Winner in 2006 Champions League final
    Opening goal in 2009 Champions League final

    2010-11 Season with Inter
    Two goals in Super Coppa final, Inter beat Roma 3-1
    Two goals in Coppa Italia final vs Palermo, Inter won 3-1
    A goal in FIFA world Club cup final, which Inter won 3-0

    ...... five in finals in one season !!!!!!!
     
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  13. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    did he also play other finals or are these all of them?
     
  14. AD78

    AD78 Member+

    Jul 17, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    These are the ones I found that he scored in, he was in 2010 Champions League final too, no goals though.
     
  15. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #15 carlito86, Feb 18, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2020

    Nerves of steel
     
  16. Edhardy

    Edhardy Member+

    Sep 4, 2013
    Nairobi, Kenya
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Rivaldo and Del Piero.
     
  17. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid

     
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  18. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #18 carlito86, Nov 5, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2021
    Top five 90th minute winning/equalizing goals in the champions league by Cristiano Ronaldo

     

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