Colombian National Team General Thread

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by sidspaceman, May 18, 2015.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    And I must also say that it may not matter who is playing well since CQ does not seem to rate domestic players good enough for callups. ( But you never know.)
     
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  2. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Munoz is playing. And he's the most likely candidate, I think. He was called up before he got injured, and then weirdly didn't get another call up once he was healthy.

    I'm not sure this has been posted yet, but Yairo got injured a couple weeks ago. It's possible he might be out for March. So, I'm gunning for Munoz, as Yairo only got his first call up as the former's injury replacement.

    Of course, now that Cantillo is in Brazil, Quieroz might finally rate him instead...

    I love Ricaurte, but I don't see it happening. He's older and he just not pacey enough. I doubt even Pekerman would've called him up. A shame. 30 years ago that guy would've been a star.

    Torres is meh
     
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  3. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He has had 2 good games, when he plays as a true 9. But Osorio with his rotations always put him as a lateral and he is horrid as hell right there. Stupid move but Osorio is smarter than us :rolleyes:

    Because of rotations. The guy is fine and he is the best ********ing player on the team. The guy is a beast and can play as a defender , recovery Midfielder or central attacking midfielder.

    The guy is incredible.. :inlove::inlove::inlove::inlove:

    I think he is a good option, he has been playing good since last year with no noticeable drops... as a healthy sub would be a great addition.
     
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  4. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Munoz might be going to Brazil... so maybe finally he will get a call up if he is starting for Flamengo
     
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I mentioned Yairo is injured in the Copa America thread.

    Good to hear about Munoz from you and Rafalarios.



    Another player people like Baal88 have been mentioning is Campaz on the right side but something tells me he will not be called up.
     
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  6. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Wouldn't mind bringing in Campaz if it's in the vain of bringing the young kid in and showing him the ropes. Don't think he's ready for this level yet.

    He looked good against Macara in both legs, but last night he was ineffectual against a dominant Internacional.
     
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  7. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why not bring some young players as motivation. My big knock is it doesn’t look like the new coach scouts he just goes to games for free.

    he talked about mini camps and hasn’t done any.....

    also calling 23 isn’t enough. I know that’s all we can bring to Copa America but we aren’t limited to X amount of players. Bring more to see them play

    don’t bring your “best 23” then lose 1-2 of them and go we lost because we didn’t have enough players or the right ones. That is your fking fault!!

    also our league being shitty? Paraguay, Chile, Uruguay have a better league than us?

    a mid table team in Argentina is better than Junior or Nacional or Cali?
     
  8. Bomb8

    Bomb8 Member+

    Jun 19, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This is propably the ninth time I ask you this, but how do you bring a huge amount of players and see them all play? You are only allowed to make three changes. Bring seven forwards and 12 midfielders to just sit them on the bench? Even if it's a friendly, what's the use of letting ten extra players play for five minutes? Why can't you just accept the fact it's impossible to bring so many players? And how do you focus on all those players even in trainings? I could go on and on but you should get the point. I know next month you came back with the same argument about not bringing more players...
     
  9. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Then we use.... we have tried any more LBs!! x player has not trained with the team !!

    don’t use not calling up players or not seeing enough of them as an excuse for losing....
     
  10. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    save your energy - we have all tried explaining that bringing __ amount of players for a call-up is not realistic / economically viable - in other words.....there are probably financial considerations that we as fans do not take into consideration - what's the return on the cost to bring up extra players etc.

    look at Mexico - they are probably the only NT that is the closest to calling up two teams worth of players and they wind up in the same place year in, year out. granted they have the benefit of playing against CONCACAF teams and get to play in two Gold Cups every WC cycle
     
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  11. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    World cups and Copa America we have injuries then cry that we didn’t win or go farther because X/Y/Z player got injured and we didn’t ever try someone else

    try someone else

    tho this coach is garbage he probably just call up Cristian Zapata, Carlos Sanchez and beg Abel to come out of retirement to get a call up because he refuses to scout
     
  12. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We will cross that bridge if those guys get a call up, but personally I wouldn’t mind Zapata over a guy like Jeison. Zapata typically has been more consistent for the NT
     
  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    zapata doesn’t play at all in Genoa. Jeison is actually playing.

    my point is the new coach is a come merida
     
  14. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Like I said in an earlier post, CQ is on strike 1 with me from his lineup choice against Chile in the CA. Beyond that, I am going to hold back from criticism until it is appropriate. He’s done fine (as far as I am concerned) with the friendlies given absences from James and others.
     
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  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I wish he had domestic microciclos and non FIFA friendlies to test out players but those seem to be going out of fashion for most teams outside of CONCACAF and some middle eastern Federations.
     
  16. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So we are now in March: just a tad over 3 weeks before Qualifiers start against Venezuela and Chile at the end of the month.

    Who are your 23 (feel free to add to my list with other players that should be in the 23 or on the fence):

    GK: Ospina plus two others
    DEF - Medina, Arias, Mina, Davinson, Lucumi, Jeison, Fabra, Tesillo
    MF - Barrios, Uribe, Lerma, Cuadrado, James, Cantillo
    FW - Duvan, Falcao, Borre, Villa, Muriel, Morelos

    Cantillo is playing solid games for Corinthians and playing every 3-4 days - fitness is there and from what i hear, he is playing well too. at this point, he has to be a strong candidate especially given other players and their injuries / lack of playing time.

    Outside looking in:
    ***Luis Diaz - depends on nature of injury. if back in action, Morelos is off my list
    ***Roger - club drama needs to get sorted out
    ***Campuzano - hopefully CQ continues to track, low on depth chart at moment
    ***Jhon Cordoba - should also be tracked between now and CA
    ***Cucho - needs to be tracked
    ***Yairo - injured?
    ***Alzate - hasn't played much in 2020
    ***Cristian Borja - decent LB but Fabra appears to be back in full fitness
    ***Cristian Zapata - always an option if we are missing other CB's
    ***Oscar - i always liked him, personally i trust him over Jeison
    ***Irbarguen - decent player, low on depth chart
    ***Stiven Mendoza - hasn't played much lately, also low on depth chart
    ***Cardona - sad how he went from core player last cycle to no-man's land
    ***Mr. Sinister - thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery
     
  17. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    You picked who he has picked before

    I know you will go who is new that I would pick. Well I don’t get paid 2 million to scout and bring/find our best players. If he calls injured players or just the same 23 as before then he isn’t doing his job.
     
  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Keepers should be Vargas and Arboleda.

    I think that Queiroz should bring a couple more players in case of injury or a red card. Cordoba seems to be in great form, Roger has worked well in the wing, maybe another multi-position guy?
     
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  19. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    LOL - i wish i knew how to opine on that.

    @dapip you're likely right about the GK's
    Cordoba has been strong lately, i don't know if he would throw him in the fire with Duvan, Falcao and Borre getting into a scoring groove. maybe for the CA instead of WCQ's. if these games were friendlies, then 100% i would want Cordoba to get a look.

    I like Roger, but I don't see him getting the same treatment James is likely to get. Maybe for Copa America, where he can get hit fitness/form up to par in a tournament setting where there is a pre-tournament camp? Then again, Villa is looking strong these days. I guess part of it has to do with how James fits back into the system along with Cuadrado (deeper role or on attacking winger again?)
     
  20. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Roger is an example of that if he makes it and we only call 23. Azarte makes it..... again he just picking the 23 he did before and hasn’t worked since our last friendlies just went to free games in Europe.
     
  21. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We just have to wait and see what "injured/out of form players" CQ calls up for the WCQ and/or CA. I don't see the tactical advantage / benefit in calling any new faces other than Cantillo to the NT for a WCQ where the time frame for a camp is much smaller than a Copa America tournament where there is time for new faces to acclimate.

    i get your still jaded from WC18 (as am I) but other than James (and maybe Lucho Diaz now), there hasn't been a black cloud of bad luck (injuries and other shenanigans) over CQ like there was with Pekerman 2017-18.
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I hope at least one player (other than a Keeper) from Colombia will get called up from the list I made before.



    As for other surprise names maybe someone like Otero since he is playing out on the wing in France while his teammate Mendoza is not.


    Cucho I want to see make the list but I am 50/50 on whether he will be given a chance.

    To me Cordoba 100% must be called up. There's not too many players hotter than him at his position in the world let alone in the Colombian pool. Only that #9 from Dortmund Haalland is having a better string of games the last couple months in the Bundesliga. And that kid is going to be the King of Norway at this pace.
     
  23. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Haaland is out of this world. He's like a white Teo =)

    bums me out that Ramos couldn't take his game to the another level when he was at Dortmund.

    Good call on Otero!
     
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  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Well, their last great striker was nicknamed Flonaldo.
    Maybe we can nickname this guy TeoHaaland.
     
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  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ramos never was too good.....dont surprise that he didnt was better in dortmund...knows to read the game.......but in not more is outstanding.
     
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