RSL 2019-20 Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by Ismitje, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL show said he didn't come to camp in shape either...
     
  2. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
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    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
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    #727 Med_Phys, Feb 18, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2020
    Speculation or inside info?

    Also, what's up with Corey Baird? Don't think I've seen his name in any of the lineups.

    For the first game, Everton is suspended. So I don't think the lineup will look the same week 1 to 2.
     
  3. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone know what the guys at RSL show were hinting at regarding having the scrimmage at the same time as the SKC game? Sure hope that was a one-off as there was nothing in that game that Freddy said he was going to implement.
    Anyone know how healthy the team is? Who's hurt, who can come in as a sub and who's ready to go 90?
     
  4. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    No inside info, just an attempt to put facts and trends together. He showed up unfit, to my knowledge. It’s unknown how long it will take him to become match ready. He still needs to show he has adequately healed from his injury and can still produce. He and his agent are more than likely asking for way more money than RSL wants to spend on so many question marks. I think RSL would like it all to work out, I just doubt it will unless he comes way down on his asking price. Maybe if it becomes a contract that is mostly based on incentives it’ll happen.
     
  5. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Gambling has an economic side to it, of course. He has to demonstrate that he is worth the gamble at the price.
     
  6. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    Yeah, but for what specification of risk preferences?
     
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  7. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
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  8. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Only got to see a few minutes of today’s match and from what I saw we are in trouble. The only guy that looked dangerous was the guy we will probably not sign. Really do not understand how this club can believe they will be competitive in a league where most teams are signing players who have a proven record. We look like a club just happy to sell some tickets and maybe win a few. It’s going to be a long year.
     
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  9. irondeepbicycle

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    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    Bryce Duke, an 18 year old CM former academy player of ours, made his professional debut for LAFC in the CCL last night. We traded his rights to LAFC this offseason.
     
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  10. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    For $50,000.
     
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  11. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    And he looked pretty decent.
     
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  12. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Info on the Leagues Cup has been announced: we have the MLS #2 seed (and hence will play whoever the 7 seed in LigaMX is, based on aggregated finishes in the split season). July 21 or 22, at the RioT. Hopefully the cat has been invited.
     
  13. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
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    I'm sure the team has procured some tasteful stationary and envelopes to deliver notes to the referees, too.
     
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  14. El-ahrairah

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    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
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    United States
    Hopefully with We're Sorry in big letters in multiple languages.
     
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  15. KendaReal

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    May 3, 2010
    Taylorsville, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    If firing the guy and having the new guy adopt the cat isn't a big enough apology I don't know what is.
     
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  16. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    #741 kirsoccer, Feb 21, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2020
    I've been reading the Garber site way too much in recent weeks, and I also got bored and aggregated the preseason player recognition.

    Recognition Player Team
    Top 10 Newcomer Kenneth Vermeer LAFC
    Top 10 Newcomer Lucas Cavallini VAN
    Top 10 Newcomer Dario Zuparic PTFC
    Top 10 Newcomer Alan Pulido SKC
    Top 10 Newcomer Thiago Santos FCD
    Top 10 Newcomer Edison Flores DCU
    Top 10 Newcomer Antonio Carlos OCFC
    Top 10 Newcomer Joao Paulo SSFC
    Top 10 Newcomer Rodolfo Pizarro IMFC
    Top 10 Newcomer Chicharito LAG LAG
    Top 10 Young Players Julian Araugo LAG
    Top 10 Young Players Ezequiel Barco ATL
    Top 10 Young Players Cole Bassett COL
    Top 10 Young Players Gianluca Busio SKC
    Top 10 Young Players Luis Diaz CBS
    Top 10 Young Players Jesus Ferreira FCD
    Top 10 Young Players Mark Mckenzie PHI
    Top 10 Young Players Matias Pellegrini IMFC
    Top 10 Young Players Brian Rodriguez LAFC
    Top 10 Young Players Mason Toye MUFC
    Top 5 Goalkeeper Stefan Frei SSFC
    Top 5 Goalkeeper Matt Turner NER
    Top 5 Goalkeeper Sean Johnson NYCFC
    Top 5 Goalkeeper Steve Clark PTFC
    Top 5 Goalkeeper Bill Hamid DCU
    Top 5 Right Back Anton Tinnerholm NYCFC
    Top 5 Right Back Julian Gressel DCU
    Top 5 Right Back Romain Metanire MUFC
    Top 5 Right Back Kelvin Leerdam SSFC
    Top 5 Right Back Reggie Cannon FCD
    Top 5 Left Back Ryan Hollingshead FCD
    Top 5 Left Back Kai Wagner PHI
    Top 5 Left Back Milton Valenzuela CBS
    Top 5 Left Back Jordan Harvey LAFC
    Top 5 Left Back Nick Lima SJE
    Top 5 Center Back Ike Opara MUFC
    Top 5 Center Back Miles Robinson ATL
    Top 5 Center Back Aaron Long NYRB
    Top 5 Center Back Walker Zimmerman NASH
    Top 5 Center Back Lalas Abubakar COL
    Top 5 Defensive Midfielder Alexander Ring NYCFC
    Top 5 Defensive Midfielder Eduard Atuesta LAFC
    Top 5 Defensive Midfielder Diego Chara PTFC
    Top 5 Defensive Midfielder Jonathan dos LAG
    Top 5 Defensive Midfielder Thiago Santos FCD
    Top 5 Center Midfielder Mark-Anthony Kaye LAFC
    Top 5 Center Midfielder Darlington Nagbe CBS
    Top 5 Center Midfielder Alejandro Bedoya PHI
    Top 5 Center Midfielder Jan Gregus MUFC
    Top 5 Center Midfielder Saphir Taider MTL
    Top 5 Attacking Midfielder Maxi Moralez NYCFC
    Top 5 Attacking Midfielder Nicolas Lodeiro SSFC
    Top 5 Attacking Midfielder Carles Gil NER
    Top 5 Attacking Midfielder Alejandro Pozuelo TOR
    Top 5 Attacking Midfielder Diego Valeri PTFC
    Top 5 Right Wing Carlos Vela LAFC
    Top 5 Right Wing Rodolfo Pizarro IMFC
    Top 5 Right Wing Johnny Russell SKC
    Top 5 Right Wing Alberth Elis HOU
    Top 5 Right Wing Paul Arriola DCU
    Top 5 Left Wing Diego Rossi LAFC
    Top 5 Left Wing Jordan Morris SSFC
    Top 5 Left Wing Cristian Pavon LAG
    Top 5 Left Wing Sebastian Blanco PTFC
    Top 5 Left Wing Daniel Royer NYRB
    Top 5 Striker Josef Martinez ATL
    Top 5 Striker Raul Ruidiaz SSFC
    Top 5 Striker Javier Hernandez LAG
    Top 5 Striker Jozy Altidore TOR
    Top 5 Striker Mauro Manotas HOU

    23 of the 26 teams have players recognized. Of those, only 5 teams had a single recognition - most had multiple recognitions. RSL being one of the 3 teams without a player on the list. Chicago and Cinci are the other two. Any of these categories that you feel an RSL player belongs?

    ATL 3
    CBS 3
    COL 2
    DCU 4
    FCD 5
    HOU 2
    IMFC 3
    LAFC 7
    LAG 5
    MTL 1
    MUFC 4
    NASH 1
    NER 2
    NYCFC 4
    NYRB 2
    OCFC 1
    PHI 3
    PTFC 5
    SJE 1
    SKC 3
    SSFC 6
    TOR 2
    VAN 1
     
  17. RSLer

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    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    No, I don’t. Although I’m not sure what “young” is there. Glad could be close if he is “young”. I also think Herrera and Everton are the only others who might be close at their positions.
     
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  18. Med_Phys

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    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    kir,
    I want to add to your comment. I noticed on transfermarkt (I know) that RSL has the lowest total market and lowest per player value in the league. Surely that indicates a talent deficit of some sort. Some numbers: average team market value is $29.95m (11 teams above this) and the average player value per team is $1.11m (9 teams above that, 3 very close).
    For RSL: $17.77m and $592k...
     
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  19. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    Yes, a team clearly lacking standouts. No Rimando, no Savarino, depth replacements coming in along with an unknown 18 YO. Not sure where all the money was spent. DLH bragged at start of offseason that they had a lot to work with, and then RSL dealt Lennon and rights to Duke for GAM and also sold Savarino for $2M. Feels like some penny pinching is going on.
     
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  20. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
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    United States
    #745 RSLer, Feb 21, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
    Yet there are folks who still maintain that RSL has a top 5-10 payroll and that ownership spending is not a problem. And...it’s not if making the playoffs is the goal. I think this season might be a benchmark of sorts. I think RSL’s road to the playoffs is going to be harder in 2020 than it has been the last couple of seasons.

    Less than a decade ago we were 1 goal away from playing in Tokyo for the Club World Cup. Now our ceiling is to make the MLS Playoffs. IMO this organization has a “Vision” problem.
     
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  21. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    Amen, brother
     
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  22. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    Somehow the already paltry RSL preseason schedule of 4 matches was trimmed down to 3 games at some point within the last 48 hours. Anybody know what happened?

    This is a shocking, inexcusable poor effort at readiness for the upcoming season. Is this delusional thinking about what this team needs for preparation, or poor logistics and execution? Absolutely terrible no matter the reason.
     
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  23. RSL Wonderbra

    RSL Wonderbra Member

    Jan 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I planned a trip to Orlando with the kids 5 months ago. When the schedule came out it just so happened that the first RSL game was in orlando the same week we had booked flights.

    It was fate right?!?! I mean, what are the odds of that! That dumb luck is the only thing that has me hoping for a result instead of a 4 - 0 romp next week.

    Then again, the weather is typically in the 80s at this time of year and it looks like it will be in the 50s. Maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up for a team that has shown far too little passion for competing for a trophy and far too much passion for touting the owners name.
     
  24. RSL Wonderbra

    RSL Wonderbra Member

    Jan 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Did anyone notice that the RSL v HOU preseason game isnt being aired on the KSL app? The same app that RSL says will have all the preseason games. The same app basically says that the team wants every game to be more accessible than air itself.

    4 - 0 blowout on a no show and the propoganda machine ensures no one can see it. Deloys fingerprint on the club and jersey again. Gross.
     
  25. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the best time of year to go to the Disney and Universal parks in Orlando. The temps are typically mild and not as much rain as in the summer. Enjoy the game...they have never had a home game when I’e been in town.
     
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