Transfer Thread 2020/2021

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  1. Arlo

    Arlo Member

    Nov 9, 2005
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Wonder how much of this release clause is true, after all watzke said hell never deal them after gotze f*cked us over. But hey this is watzke after all so i wouldnt be surprised, hes all talk and bite
     
  2. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    I see City wants Haland as Aguero replacement. If some 100M offer comes in the summer, i would sell him and sell Sancho for 150M+ and start total reconstruction of the team with a new coach ofc.
    This team is unfortunately ruined with this coach and Sancho is 100% leaving in the summer, i would also sell Haland if some abnormal offer comes and bought whole new defence and 2 new strikers and some young gk like Onana.
    Sell Akanji, Schulz, Dahoud, Gotze, retire Lukasz, Schmelz...
     
  3. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Onana
    Hakimi Hummels Dias Guerreiro
    Witsel Brandt
    Neves Reus Hazard
    Haland

    Coach: Pochettino

    I would say for Onana(Ajax) , Dias(Benfica), Neves(Ajax) we need somewhere beetwen 100M and 140M, the money from the sale of Sancho.
    Ofc this wont happen, but this team would look good...
     
  4. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    #1304 Oliseh, Feb 11, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2020
    Or what about selling Haland big and bringing Timo?

    And there is one very interesting CB player that is warming bench in Madrid.
    Militao... He would be even cheaper than Dias, because i guess Madrid dont count on him, which is strange, cause they bought him for 50M...
    One GK that is interesting is Rajkovic from Reims, i dont know how many of you played Football Manager, but that guy was a wonderkid many seasons in that game and now he is one of the best GKs in France, he has the biggest percentage of saves... He wouldnt be expensive
     
  5. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    Moukoko is 15. Assuming that he joins the first team at 18, in 3 years, then every player we have who is in their early 20s or younger should be told that they have the chance to play with a very special player in ~3 years.

    Of course everything now is too uncertain (will Moukoko turn out to be that big, will he stay in BVB, etc..) but I think for ambitious players like Haland, it can be an exciting proposition.

    My point is that management may be starting to build a team for Moukoko silently, and they may be telling this story to new signings in private conversations.

    Also.. different topic.. I don't watch him that much, but I'm having a real hard time judging the potential of Timo Werner. I don't really understand the amount of hype around him. Am I the only one? Or do I just end up watching his bad games?
     
  6. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    Werner has pace and strength which is rare. But he does seem to get lost at times as any player his age tends to do.

    Im not sure we even need to discuss him though. It appears he is thinking of other big clubs abroad. EPL or Spain seem like something he is considering according to rumors but rumors are just rumors at times.
     
  7. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    BREAKING: Jadon Sancho will leave Borussia Dortmund this summer and Manchester United are keen to take him to Old Trafford, according to Sky Germany.
     
  8. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Everything below 150M is a fail.. 150-160M euros, i would take it and half of that invest in 2 not good, GREAT defenders!
     
  9. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    But i cant understand how someone can go to United, a big club, but after Sir Alex era, they are lost club just like AC Milan..
    I dont see them in the near future even with Sancho being big elite club again..
    I would say something is rotten in the club and club management there..
     
  10. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    It's sad to see such a quality player and game changer like Sancho go. The (rumored) move to United with their considerable gap to the top teams and him coming from City would be a bit odd but money talks. I thought Dembele would be the biggest loss of talent for us but because of his output, Sancho tops him in my opinion.

    Meanwhile, Ziyech to Chelsea for 40 million which feels like a steal. Sancho leaving wouldn't be a surprise so I hope the club already planned for that scenario.
     
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  11. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    But if we sell Sancho, i want just once to stop buying young prospect, cause i see that we want some Dennis, 22 Nigerian from Brugge... Sorry FO, but just once show some ambition and get someone like Neres, show some balls like they showed when we brought Miki from Shakthar who was at that time "finished" player and immediately a game changer...
    I dont want again some prospect who needs season, season and a half to shine and then after season or two he is gone..
    You cant functioned like that for the rest of your life, cause you risk losing some fan base, sometimes you just have to show title ambitions, even if that means 1 in 5 seasons, but my God do it for the fans!
    Stop being a company like Arsenal, that the only important thing is profit...
     
  12. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Sell Sancho for 150M minimum, buy new GK for 30M max, buy 2 great DCs, one finished player for around 30-40M and one top prospect for 30M max (Kumbulla maybe from Verona) and one backup striker, not top quality, for max 15M, someone like Kruse, that type who is older and experienced, who will always do the job fair when he replaces Haland.

    You have to spend around 100M if you want to bring some really good players and you are 50M in plus..

    After selling Haland, we bring back isak for 30M..
     
  13. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    I am watching Dortmund games since 97., big fan of Rosicky and that generation, ofc Sahin, Barrios, Lewy, Gotze, Kagawa, Humm and squad, but i have never seen such a talent in Dortmund as Dembele.
    That guy was poetry in motion, techique with insane speed, he was so good that i was certain he will be top 5 players in the future, golden ball candidate..
    What happened in Barca... Im confused..
    I think fortune ruined him, as i read his house in Barca is always full of friend, he is playing games all day, its a shame ge didnt have some proper manager who would beat the hell out of him, because he is so talented its crazy, he is not that worse than Mbappe..
    Im so sorry for that boy, if he has healthy head, he would be one of the best ballers in this game....
     
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  14. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    Agreed re Dembele! Such a talent! Barca is a mess right now (coming from a Barca fan.) I hope they sell him so he can achieve his potential elsewhere.
     
  15. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is the mystery about Dembélé? He can’t stay healthy. Now we can speculate about whether genetics, lifestyle, or medical staff are to blame, but BVB are probably not regretting his departure.

    Could Dortmund keep Sancho by making him their highest paid player? It would not be undeserved by any means.
     
  16. Scheherazade

    Scheherazade Member

    Jun 4, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    There is no mystery, he has a bad diet and sacked the personal chef Barcelona told him to hire because he eats takeouts. It will affect his career and recovery if he does not learn to eat properly, he will just become an out of shape skill player like Hatem Ben Arfa.

    When you are a young sportsman you can get away with eating fast food without getting fat, but the empty calories and lack of nutritional value will not help you recover from training and make you more injury prone because muscles will get burned as calories if he doesnt replenish the glycogen that is lost after a full match. Some players drink strawberry milk right after a game to replenish glycogen, it is disgusting but my sports dietician told anything with simple sugars and protein works. Dembele always had cramps or dead legs after sixty minutes at Dortmund which shows bad diet management. A professional footballer who trains everyday and plays every week he needs to eat a lot of protein daily, and complex carbs vitamins and minerals before a match to prevent cramps, not trash burgers with simple carbs. When we sold Dembele his cramping issue was attributed to his age not his diet so we got lucky.
     
  17. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
  18. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
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  19. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    Well I learned a bit I didn't know about Dembele and sports medicine :) Thanks!
     
  20. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    40 mil in an age where Joao Felix goes for 120 ? The mistake was managements in not including an obligatory clause ... it just seems imprudent to develop a rivals player by allowing him the game time to become an African youth player of the year in consecutive seasons, and consequently ship him back. 40 mil in the age we live in, wouldn't buy you his left shoe, let alone the player.

    U live in a fantasy world my friend ... it must b nice in there : )
     
  21. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    I said that because Real is sending some strange signals about him, some day they see him in the squad and other they would sell him. You have Odriozola and other who they bought for not so small amount of money and know they want to get rid of them. I think Real doesnt see Hakimi as a superstar and you know they are falling for that..
     
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  22. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    The thing about Hakimi, is he is defensively liable ... with the 4 in the back Madrid play, I can see that being a point of concern. I can only assume Bayern will bench Odriozole for the remainder of the season, claim he is terrible to drive down his price tag, and then pick him up on the cheap. As much as I despise that club, it's hard to find fault with their model from a financial or sporting perspective, so kudos to them in that regard.

    But yea, I can see Hakimi making the move (58+ mil + whatever add ons, maybe taking the final fee to 60-70mil), but only if he actively seeks it himself. I personally don't think he fits into the tactical formations they emply, and it would probably be in his own best interests to remain. And maybe that sets off a domino, where Sancho signs a 1 year extension to remain should they convince Hakimi to make the move permnent. It would be difficult to turn down playing another season with Haaland and the talent in this team ... there comes a point where money becomes somewhat irrelevant in relation to one's standard of living if u think about it.
     
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  23. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    One scenario is also not so bad
    - if Sancho really needs to go in summer, i would try to offer Real a deal 90M/100M+ Hakimi..
    Who knows, maybe they would accept such an offer. I really wouldnt mind that..
    You have 90M to spend, buy Rashica and buy some defender and you dont have to worry about your RB..
     
  24. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    The club who let Keylor Navas go is very capable of letting Hakimi go :) #secondmosthatedclub
     
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  25. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Yeah, Real is sometimes kind a weird when it comes to transfers and most important, how they act with their own players, remember Raul and Iker, 2 legends, after that Navas..
    They have some strange criteria and maybe, i hope they dont see Hakimi as that important as we do..
     
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