News: NWSL general news and info

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by Blaze20, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NWSL coaching does not pay well, but it is a great platform for a coach wanting to go pro. But college is not where NWSL coaches are coming from, and college soccer is not the only pool to draw from here. Most of the current NWSL coaches came up through youth soccer, minor leagues (PDL, etc) and/or foreign clubs. I know of some former players (I'm speaking of all leagues here, not just NWSL) who are coaching in top youth soccer positions and in college, but there are not enough. I wonder about what the numbers of women and Americans are in WPSL coaching? Also what are the numbers for NWSL assistant coaches? I'm going to guess that they're not much better.

    I know the pattern is bigger than just NWSL. But I also think the problem is bigger than just not being in the tenth or eleventh season at least as far as female coaches are concerned (maybe not for American coaches). And on that note, I'll link an article written a few years ago that still rings true: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/27/15873624/soccer-female-coaches-sexism
     
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  2. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, asking this question made me really curious. Reliable information is not easy to find, and there are a lot of teams. But I looked at 57 of the teams (about half to the WPSL teams), and 7 of them have female coaches (about 12%). Also I think its notable that 3 of those 7 are former USWNT players.

    As for NWSL, Anthony DiCicco helps us out:



    Chicago is about to hire a female assistant coach though:

     
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  3. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Nice stats collection! So yeah, we're simply stuck around 10-15% of coaching staff being women at the moment; even "promoting" coaches from WPSL wouldn't greatly increase that percentage in NWSL since it's similar in WPSL. Ideally it should be around 50%, so there's clearly a long way to go. Hopefully the currently players that have been taking coaching classes can help bump the number to 20-25% in four or five years.
     
  4. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Amy LePeilbet is staying on as assistant/head coach of the reserves for the Royals. We expect another hire as well.

    The team took pains to note the GM and half the hiring committee are female, and that it was Harrington's experience with player development that stood out as the team looks to 1) mimic RSL's approach there and 2) to move away from Harvey's veteran-centric approach to team building. Since I don't know who else was in the pool, I can't speak to whether there were other development-oriented and experienced candidates.
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Meh.

    It has to do with permanence and stability. NWSL jobs aren't the pinnacle of women's soccer coaching. That's still the elite NCAA D1 programs. When the money, resources, and long term viability of the NWSL surpasses the college game, you'll see more elite coaches move - including women.

    We saw this with MLS twenty years ago.

    Frankly, most of the coaches in the WUSA, WPS, and NWSL have been either journeymen coaches or failed college coaches. Those with really good salaries and benefits in a well-funded college program aren't going to jump to a start-up pro league that might be gone in a couple of years, or you might get yourself fired from because pro coaches rarely last more than a handful of years in a specific job.

    Some of the inchoate tweets I'm seeing miss this fundamental fact.

    They never look at the list of top women's coaches in the NCAA and actually ask them if they were interested in leaving their cushy college job for an NWSL head job.
     
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  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Because part of her deal was a two-fer with her husband, and I don't think he was treated well by the organization. He was previously a former MLS assistant coach.
     
  7. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This next season is going to be longer. General schedule known (has this already been reported here? Sorry if it has.):



    Note: men's WC qualifying will be happening during the NWSL Championship weekend, which may affect attendance, but the games should not directly overlap...hopefully.

    Also on preseason:

     
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  8. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On that note, it looks like Chicago hired former player Juliane Sitch as well as former Utah Royals coach Scott Parkinson (Utah and Chicago just trading staffs now):

     
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  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Come back in 10 years and you'll find the technical staffs throughout the league stocked with WPS/NWSL veterans. It's MLS all over again, it just takes time for the potential coaching talent with experience, not locked into the much more stable and currently lucrative NCAA structure to mature.
     
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  10. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Preseason Tickets at Providence park are included with a season subscription. Just got an email on it.
     
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  11. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    yeah!

    for those of us who love the nwsl, it means the league will still be around!

    (we can only wish it'll be growing like mls did as well).
     
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  12. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    TBD if NWSL is waiting to make the CBS announcement before releasing the schedule, or if NWSL and CBS are working on a schedule that works best for both, but we're starting to get leaks about home openers:
    Steve Goff of WaPo reporting that the Reign's first match will be on the road at Audi Field on April 18th.
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    To be fair, it's still more than a week earlier than the schedule was released in 2018 and 2019
     
  14. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    #1340 Cliveworshipper, Feb 14, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2020

    Well, between 1996 and 2001 the MLS lost $250 million, leading to the folding of two Florida franchises. By 2004, the league had lost $350 million.
    By 2002, there were only three owners in the league, with Phil Anschutz owning six of the ten franchises.

    There really wasn’t a sense that the MLS made any money until Seattle (2009) Vancouver, and Portland entered the league (2011). And even after that, there was Chivas.

    I’d say the NWSL is ahead of schedule.
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Let's not forget Dave Checketts. If It was so profitable, he would still own RSL.
     
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  17. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    #1342 Cliveworshipper, Feb 14, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2020

    Well, let’s not pick on him. He just kept selling off chunks to Hansen to finance the stadium and his lifestyle until 2013, when his share was gone.. The franchise was ok.

    Forbes had a snapshot of league finances in 2016 and the biggest money losers were NYCFC and Toronto losing $9 million each, with the Chicago Fire in third losing $6 million.

    Other teams that lost money that year we’re Red Bulls, Dc United, FC Dallas, Montreal impact, Vancouver, Colorado, and Columbus crew.

    according to Forbes, RSL was $4 million in the black that year.
     
  18. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    NWSL isn't ready to announce their new commish yet, so they're officially leaderless at the moment, but the announcement should be in the next month or so, and it *will* be a woman:

    "We are confident she will further cement NWSL's place..."
     
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  19. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last sentence makes me think whoever it is is finishing out notice given to a current employer and/or the contract hasn't actually been signed yet for some reason. As for her identity, let the speculation begin.
     
  20. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Yeah, UTA's DLH said the other week that the league has already chosen the new commish, but people have pointed out that going from choosing the person to getting them officially signed can take a while.
     
  21. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I want it to be Kathy Carter because 1) she's awesome, 2) she'd be perfect for the job, and 3) it would make the anti-MLS/SUM/USSF cabals' heads expload
     
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  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #1347 SiberianThunderT, Feb 19, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2020
    Hadn't she been in consideration for the NWSL job immediately after her failed USSF bid? If she's the one now, I would question why a candidate that didn't fit a few years ago would have the job now.
    =edit=
    yes, she had actively voiced interest in becoming NWSL commish after not getting the USSF presidency.
    https://sbisoccer.com/2018/04/report-kathy-carter-interested-in-joining-the-nwsl
    I'm sure she has the business acumen to take the NWSL job, and anything that gets NWSL closer to SUM is probably a good thing, but if she is the candidate, I'd be *really* curious to know what standard apparently got lowered to approve her now when things hadn't moved forward two years ago.
     
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  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    It doesn't have to be "lowered standards" - just a change of direction. The league is quite a bit different than it was a couple of years ago. The optics have also greatly changed. With all the accusations being lobbed about USSF and SUM, having the SUM president take over as the USSF run commissioner wouldn't have helped any perceptions. Now it's obvious that the NWSL is breaking away into its own thing, that's less of a concern. You also have new ownership with RSL replacing FCKC, OL taking over the Reign, Louisville on the way in.

    There are many reasons why things didn't work out before that might make them tenable today, not just "lowered standards"
     
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  24. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #1349 SiberianThunderT, Feb 19, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2020
    I dunno, it still seems a little odd to me... It's not like NWSL is very visible in the first place, so I'm not sold on the idea that having the SUM pres take over NWSL factored in at all two years ago. (Not to mention the FCKC/UTA thing happened in Dec17, well before the USSF pres election, so that definitely wasn't different then vs today.) Also, NWSL breaking away would make me think they want less to do with the USSF/SUM/etc. brand, not more. But that's just my read.

    - - - - -

    In other news
    this turns out to have been true as Lauletta leaks the full slate of week 1 games:


    We have more details on NWSL broadcasts and streaming:
    https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/02/19/hope-solo-hall-fame-nwsl-cbs-deal-mls-dp-rule-insider
    Finally, Sky Blue has added a new minority investor, Ed Nalbandian. (I hope this, especially after the move to RBA and other changes made over the past year, puts to rest the rumors that Sky Blue is a shaky franchise.)
     
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  25. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The problem with Dan's tweet is that the home team is ambiguous. I've seen AvB where A is the home team and where B is the home team. As none of these are neutral site games, he should've just said "A at B" or "B at A".

    Grrrr.
     

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