Luxemburgo el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Real Ray, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. Real Ray

    Real Ray Member

    May 1, 2000
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,577118,00.html


    El Real Madrid va a cambiar de entrenador de forma inminente. De hecho, Wanderlei Luxemburgo está viajando a España -llegará alrededor de las 13:00 horas al aeropuerto de Barajas- para cerrar su incorporación inmediata al banquillo madridista, en el que sustituirá a Mariano García Remón, quien había perdido la confianza del club en las últimas semanas. Dos medios brasileños, el diario 'O Globo' y la página web 'Lancepress', fueron los primeros en dar la noticia de que el técnico brasileño será el nuevo entrenador madridista. De hecho, no se descarta que a lo largo de este jueves sea presentado como nuevo entrenador madridista.


    Hmmm...can't say he was on my short list.

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  2. Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    How true is it, is there official confirmation or is it just one of those big rumours that do the rounds and then naturally die?


    http://skysports.planetfootball.com...tle=Luxemburgo+set+for+Real+job&channel=Spain
     
  3. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
  4. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    From www.marca.com

    [​IMG]


    PALMARES
    • Con clubes
    - Liga del estado de Espirito Santo ;1983
    - Liga brasileña de 2ª división : 1989
    - Liga del estado de Sao Paulo; 1990,1993, 1994, 1996, 2001
    - Liga brasileña; 1993, 1994, 1998,2003, 2004
    - Liga brasileña; 1993, 1994, 1998,2003, 2004
    - Torneo Rio-Sao Paulo; 1993,1997,
    - Copa Guaranabara; 1995
    - Copa Intercontinental; 1996
    - Copa brasileña; 2003

    • Con la selección brasileña
    - Copa America; 1999
    - Torneo Pre-Olímpico; 2000

    SU TRAYECTORIA
    - 12/2004 ; Real Madrid. España
    - 05-2004 ; Santos FC-SP
    - 2002-2004 ; Cruzeiro- MG
    - 2002 ; Palmeiras
    - 2002 ; Cruzeiro- MG
    - 2001-2002 ; Corinthians-SP
    - 2000 ; SELECCIÓN OLÍMPICA
    - 1998-2000 ; SELECCIÓN
    - 1998-1999 ; Corinthians-SP
    - 1997-1998 ; Santos FC-SP
    - 1995-1996 ; Palmeiras-SP
    - 1995 ; Flamengo-RJ
    - 1995 ; Parana Clube - PR
    - 1993-1994 ; Palmeiras- SP
    - 1992-1993 ; Ponte-Preta- SP
    - 1991-1992 ; Flamengo- RJ
    - 1991 ; Guarani-SP
    - 1989-1990 ; Bragantino-SP
    - 1987-1988 ; Fluminense- RJ-(sub20)
    - 1987 ; America RJ
    - 1986-1987 ; Fluminense- RJ-(sub20)
    - 1985-1986 ; Democrata - MG
    - 1984-1985 ; Al Itthihad-Jehhah Arabïa Saudí
    - 1984; Friburguense - RJ
    - 1983-1984; Rio Branco-ES
    - 1983; Campo Grande - RJ
     
  5. minuscapita

    minuscapita Member

    May 10, 2002
    Fremont, ca
    Club:
    Atletico Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    i got a feeling he wont be lasting over 10 months...
     
  6. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    ADRIANO Y ROBINHO, DE LAS FAVELAS AL MADRID

    El Madrid planea renovar su plantilla el próximo verano. Por ahora se ha fijado en dos jugadores brasileños que asegurarían espectáculo. Adriano y Robinho son dos de los mejores talentos brasileños que circulan por el planeta fútbol y muy pronto podrían dar tardes de gloria a la entidad de Chamartín. Sin duda, un Madrid muy brasileño...


    http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20041230dasdaiftb_16&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20041230
     
  7. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    Real Madrid just confirmed the new coach. Not completely out of the blue, I wonder what GR will be saying?
     
  8. La China Poblana

    May 13, 2003
    Chicago
    Vanderlei Luxemburgo, presentado como nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    Emilio Butragueño ha anunciado la contratación de Wanderlei Luxemburgo como nuevo técnico de la primera plantilla del Real Madrid. En una comparecencia junto a Arrigo Sacchi y el propio Vanderlei Luxemburgo, el Vicepresidente y Director Deportivo aseguró que la Junta Directiva del Real Madrid ha aprobado por unanimidad la incorporación del técnico brasileño. Mariano García Remón seguirá en el área deportiva del Club.

    http://www.realmadrid.com/web_realm...icia.jsp?idnoticia=43975&sec=1&subsec=0&esp=1

    Real Madrid name Luxemburgo as new coach

    MADRID, Dec 30 (Reuters) - Real Madrid named former Brazil manager Vanderlei Luxemburgo as new coach on Thursday in a bid to reignite their fading league campaign.

    "Real Madrid's board has unanimously approved the proposal of the sports management team to appoint Vanderlei Luxemburgo as new coach," vice-president Emilio Butragueno told a news conference.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-real_picture&prov=reuters&type=lgns
     
  9. gazzad_5

    gazzad_5 Member

    Jan 19, 2004
    Re: Vanderlei Luxemburgo, presentado como nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    robinho to join him??????/ ;)
     
  10. balla

    balla Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    Melbourne,Australia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=40812&progr=5

    Muhahahah Adriano told Real to f*** off!!!!!!!!!

    Good on him!!!Hopefully more of the top quality players start doing the same and not just playing for the money.
     
  11. echineko

    echineko New Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Malaysia
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    first of all, it must be amazing to have a team where the players dont play for the money, but for free instead out of the goodness of their hearts. secondly, players generally can go wherever they want to, and reject whichever club they want to as well. nothing to get so excited about really.
     
  12. gazzad_5

    gazzad_5 Member

    Jan 19, 2004
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    ahem, most players have to take pay cuts to come to real. owen becks zizou to name a few, that is why vieira never came!
    sorry to correct you, im sure it was a deliberate mistake ;)

    and to be honest, if anybody is playing for the money its your playes, cos really, what is the 'natural' attraction of the german league?
     
  13. Sinko

    Sinko New Member

    Dec 28, 1999
    xalapa ver mx
    Club:
    Harrisburg City Isl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. gazzad_5

    gazzad_5 Member

    Jan 19, 2004
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    lets just hope that this one doesnt spit his dummy out and resign and doesnt only get until the rest of the season in charge.
    it must be so difficult for the players. this is their third coach in about 6 months, it really cant help the situation. plus the arrival of sacchi.
    lets hope then for a good 18 months we have no more managers and no more changes in structure at the club. let this now be the way forward for real madrid!
     
  15. gazzad_5

    gazzad_5 Member

    Jan 19, 2004
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    according to skysports he will still be part o real madrid in some capacity, prob just become another coach
     
  16. Real Ray

    Real Ray Member

    May 1, 2000
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid


    And just when I was thinking we would be more Italian... :p
     
  17. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    Echineko, I recommend you just ignore this clown balla. His comments redefine moronic. :cool:
     
  18. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Luxemburgo viaja a España para ser el nuevo entrenador del Real Madrid

    Well, I hope this guy's tactical genius outweighs the disruption factor.
     
  19. leuva_gando

    leuva_gando New Member

    Nov 9, 2004
    O-K-C
    New Manager - Again.

    What is everyone's opinion about Wanderlei Luxemburgo being the new manager @ Real? (Read it on BBC) Sr. Ramon has been demoted apparently. I hope I am proven wrong at the end of the season, but currently, I don't see this improving our results at all. Its going to be a strugle till the end of season.
     
  20. Sinko

    Sinko New Member

    Dec 28, 1999
    xalapa ver mx
    Club:
    Harrisburg City Isl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I edited the title a bit for the sake of clarity.
     
  21. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know we are not supposed to put whole articles in, so I have deleted parts of this story. Looks like RM has found a very controversial coach.

    Rollercoaster Luxemburgo mixes scandal, success

    By Brian Homewood

    RIO DE JANEIRO, Dec 30 (Reuters) - Real Madrid's new coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo believes that being pelted with coins and insulted by fans is a sign of affection and recently told reporters: "I'm a star."

    On the touchline, the 52-year-old is a perfectionist with a reputation for inventive, attacking football and a hunger for success that has brought him a record five Brazilian championship titles with four different clubs.

    Luxemburgo spent most of his career, including two years in charge of Brazil, with a fake birth certificate which cut three years off his real age and wrongly spelt his first name as Wanderley.

    He said his father obtained it for him when he was a teenager to give him a helping hand at Botafogo.

    After leading Santos to the Brazilian championship this year, he then paid a glowing tribute to himself. "I'm a star," he said.

    "I've become an example and the new coaches are inspired by me. Companies invite me to give speeches and people want to know about my opinions and my working methods. I'm an idol."

    Luxemburgo was in his second stint with the club, having walked out on them in 1997 to take up an offer from arch-rivals Corinthians.

    On subsequent visits to the Vila Belmiro, he was routinely greeted with a hail of coins and chants of "mercenary" from aggrieved Santos fans angry at what they saw as betrayal.

    But after leading Santos to the title, Luxemburgo brushed off the apparently unfriendly behaviour.

    "It was a demonstration of how much the fans liked me," he said. "They were hostile to me but they did it with affection."

    Luxemburgo has won the Brazilian championship with Palmeiras, Corinthians, Cruzeiro and Santos since emerging on the scene with unfashionable Bragantino in 1990.

    But so far, he has not been able to match his domestic success on the international front.

    Despite years of trying, he has failed to add the Libertadores Cup -- the South American equivalent of the Champions League -- to his collection.

    Apart from a 1999 Copa America triumph, his two years in charge of Brazil mixed poor results and performances with scandal over his financial affairs.

    Brazil lost their way as an indecisive Luxemburgo chopped and changed his team, embarrassingly losing World Cup qualifiers away to Paraguay and Chile in 2000.

    The final straw came when the under-23 team, also coached by Luxemburgo, fell at the quarter-finals to nine-man Cameroon at the Sydney Olympics.

    Luxemburgo, already swamped by allegations from a former business associate about unethical behaviour earlier in his career, was fired and left to be grilled by a Congressional commission inquiry.

    The investigators, probing Brazilian football's finances, questioned Luxemburgo over his tax returns in a session broadcast live on Brazilian television.

    But Luxemburgo, a bitter personal rival of Brazil's other internationally well-known coach, Luiz Felipe Scolari, waited for the storm to die down and bounced back as he won the Brazilian championship in 2003 with Cruzeiro and then this year with Santos.

    He has often stated that his dream is to coach a big European club. But not even Luxemburgo is likely to have expected to be given a chance by such a big club, so soon.
     
  22. tpmazembe

    tpmazembe Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    The Midfield (S.Fla)
    Many of you may not be familiar with your new coach. Here are some facts, along with my personal observations (for what they are worth).

    My first knowledge of him was his studio work for ESPN Brasil during the France WC 1998. I was relatively new to Brasil, and was not aware of his coaching pedigree. I was impressed with his analysis of the games, and his ability to explain what players were doing, and what they should be doing to change the course of the game. As someone who finds most of these talking heads to have fairly little constructive tactical knowledge, I was quite happy with his output, and learned from him. It was only later that I realized who he was (thus my initial opinion of his football knowledge was not shaded by any preconceived notions).

    His exploits since then, along with research on his Palmeiras team, have caused me to express this opinion on Luxa in the Brasil boards: Quite simply the best Brasilian coach today in terms of fully exploiting talented players, and maybe the best Brasilian coach at club level since Tele Santana.

    Fact: Most successful Brasiliero coach.

    Has won 5 Brasileiro’s (2 more than anyone), with 4 different teams. Twice back to back, once with Palmeiras, and recently with two different teams Cruzeiro and Santos. Had he not left Corinthians to take over the Selecao duties he would have won three back to back titles (his Corinthians winning side of 1998 did the double in 1999 with his former assistant manager). He has won other titles as well (see CV at end of post).

    His Brasileiro Championship Teams:

    Palmeiras 1993, 1994 – a super team. Antônio Carlos, Cléber, Roberto Carlos, César Sampaio, Mazinho, Edílson, Zinho and Flavio Conceicao and Rivaldo. Renown for its offensive firepower.
    http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/historia/futebol/campeonato_brasileiro/1993.php
    http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/historia/futebol/campeonato_brasileiro/1994.php

    Corinthians 1998 - Dida, Gamara, Sylvinho, Ricardinho, Rincon, Vampeta, Edilson, Marcelinho Carioca. Base of the squad that won back-to-back in 1999, and won inaugural FIFA WCC was his making [I’ve always felt that his successor was a wonderful caretaker manager, and has never come close to replicating such success]http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/historia/futebol/campeonato_brasileiro/1998.php

    Cruzeiro 2003 – he revived Alex’s [Fenerbache] career. Developed him into the player that he was meant to be, after a two year downturn. Won the Brasileiro almost wire to wire, with the most efficient team.
    http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/historia/futebol/campeonato_brasileiro/2003.php

    Santos 2004 – was able to bring Santos together after the loss of most its talent from the winning side of two years ago. They lost Alex, Diego, Renato, as well as Ricardo Oliveira (though he came after that conquest). Brought Robinho back into form, and reconstituted a new side with shrewd moves, such as bringing Deivid back from France and bringing in Ricardinho to help Elano grow. Also, managed to keep team playing at high level in the last critical month despite Robinho’s absence due to his mother’s kidnapping.

    The common denominator amongst these teams is that Luxa had an active hand in shaping the personnel, often coming in and indicating role players needed to balance out the squad, as well as bringing in new talent that had not been previously well viewed (a certain R.Carlos for example). His squads have tended to have multiple talented players that he has fused into cohesive units.

    He has had problems with some superstar players – Marcelinho Carioca in particular – but always seems to get the best football out of them if they stayed in the team uniform. The notable exception was Romario, to whom he lost a power struggle at Flamengo [at the time Romario had all the weight of the WC 1994 as his trump card.]

    Whereas Scolari is a coach that relies on a strong paternal style of leadership, a carrot and stick motivation of players, and relying on instinct during game time; I feel that Luxa is a scientific manager, relying on tactical nous both in managing players and managing playing styles, and dissecting his opponents technically and tactically. He’s not one to manage a talent challenged squad (Scolari would do better). He will make a gazelle run like a gazelle. Once in his mold, his teams are always beautiful to watch…and effective.

    He has not had a completely smooth ride. He showed a lack of professional judgment when he briefly coached the Selecao. Though he won Copa America ’99 off the bat, he quickly made enemies. There was the huge Jose Mourinho-like ego which rubbed the press the wrong way. Then he was accused of showcasing unknown players to get a cut in eventual transfers to Europe (an assertion never proven). He had an affair while on the job that became very messy and caused him to lose credibility with his backers. He refused to take Romario as one of his over-age players for the Sydney Olympics to reinforce a team that expected Gold (with Alex, R.Gaucho, Lucio and others on the team). People forget however how brilliantly he had the Olympic squad playing in the qualifiers - including severely outplaying an Argentina side with Riquelme, Aimar and Saviola. The poor showing in Sydney, combined with the struggles for WCQ 2002, and the personal issues were the death knell of his Selecao career.

    [Even so, IMO the two best displays the Selecao A team has had since 1998 have been under his command. Both came against Argentina – the friendly in Porto Alegre 1999, and the WCQ 2002 game in Sao Paulo in 2000.]

    I believe Luxa knows that he can’t fcuk up this opportunity the way he did with the Selecao. Plus he is smart enough to have learned from his Selecao debacle. He will have had a chance at arguably the two most prestigious coaching positions in the footballing world – the Brasilian Selecao and Real Madrid - he will stay on the straight and narrow.

    Will management have his back if one of the major Galacticos feuds with him? If it is RCarlos, I’m sure they will. If it is Raul?

    Pros:
    Scientific approach
    Unquestioned tactical mind
    Impressive talent evaluator
    Ability to mesh extremely talented players together
    Proven winner at national league level
    Ego..strong self belief

    Cons:
    Checkered ethical past
    No titles at continental club level (Libs)
    Ego..will butt heads with at least one Galactico

    Unknowns
    Sacchi’s and Real executives’ patience and belief in him [IMO the politics at the club are not conducive to long-term planning]
    Ability to acquire talent that he wants
    Real supporters' patience

    Nothing is guaranteed at all in football or in life; but, I will venture to say that if he is given 18 months, and allowed to make the personnel decisions he wants, Real Madrid will be playing football worthy of the term Galactico.

    Complete CV: http://www.treinadores.com.br/dt_trein.asp?treID=82
     
  23. Jawz10

    Jawz10 Moderator

    Feb 27, 1999
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Luxemburgo likes to play with both fullbacks all the way up the pitch. You thought Roberto Carlos attacked a lot before? Just wait, he'll always be in the opponents area. But, contrary to what you may be thinking this is a good thing. Also, he'll employ two attacking midfielders and two strikers. The only problem with that is Madrid don't have any players to do the running, or rather any players who run at all. At Santos he had players like Renato, Claiton, and later Casagrande. At Cruziero he had Maldonado. Maybe he'll have Helguera move into midfield?
     
  24. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a lot of weight in your post, tpmazembe. I must say you present Luxa in an intriguing light. I am not sure that Raul will be the problem as an individual, though the fans certainly support him in the strongest possible way. I think the problem is to see when the aging Galacticos are on or off - and on any given night, they can be either.
     

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