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  1. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    Zidane didn’t have a good game today, 2 out of the 3 subs I thought were bizarre and his insistence on using the 4-3-3 despite us being much more solid both defensively and IMO offensively in the 4312 is baffling.
    Should have brought Modric on for Bale and leave Kroos on so we had more control of the game.

    I could criticize him as well for starting the Bale but he had no bearing on our defensive lapses.
     
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  2. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #1152 Digital, Feb 16, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2020
    Agreed
    But..... a huge bearing on our lack of goals , which we desperately need, so IMO some blame there too

    On another issue, it’s becoming far too often now to hear ZZ bemoaning our “poor ness” in the first half in at least the last 3 or 4 games now, fairly often really, he is responsible for getting the team ready to go from the start,

    if we lack concentration , intensity, or the team set up or personnel isn’t right a big part of that is on him, gotta start getting it right from the off rather than having to refocus at the half so often
     
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  3. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I really hate how Zidane never picks according to form. Isco had a good game and scored, so did Lucas, Jovic finally showed promise. 2 on the bench, 1 not called up.

    Benzema in terrible form, Marcelo beyond saving, Bale not even being a football player yet they start.

    Why does he always wait so long for subs? Bale literally disappears in 2nd half, Benzema even when he's on fire disappears after 60-70 minutes.
     
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  4. Realist

    Realist Member

    Real Madrid
    Dec 26, 2019
    Zidane's magic is starting to fade slowly. You've probably forgotten that in 2016/17 when we won the league there were a couple of situations like yesterday. However unlike yesterday we managed to win back then thanks to SR4's headers.

    He is limited tactically which is finally starting to show up. His wrong decision about the starting 11, constantly rotating and substituting too late will cost us the league this season. We're literally handing the la liga to Barca. I had known what this will happen even before season started. We have the best defence in the la liga and we concede 2 goals like we did yesterday? :laugh::laugh: Is this some kind of a joke? So much about the best defence in La Liga.

    If this team remains in the same form for one two weeks, we can be punished severely by City and Barca. Ask yourself this: "If Celta who is the last team in La liga can score two goals against us, how many goals do you think two top teams like Barca and City can score then?"
     
  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    How many goals did Barca score at the Camp Nou?
     
  6. Realist

    Realist Member

    Real Madrid
    Dec 26, 2019
    This is not relevant because Ernie was still Barca's couch then and furthermore, Real played better on Camp Nou in the last clasicos except the one that ended 5-1. Barcelona played better on Bernabeu. Real won last el clasico there in the Spanish super cup in 2017 when CR7 was still here. Basically this means that Barca plays on Bernabeu like they're playing at home not away in these last three years.
     
  7. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    Yea we haven’t been as focused in the last few games, it’s as if the players think they’ve won the league already. Against a good team a bad half and it’s game over.
     
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  8. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If he goes trophyless this season, would you want him sacked?

    I’m in two minds.
     
  9. Prit Javier

    Prit Javier Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    May 9, 2018
    Depends how many mistakes he makes again until end of the season, I do not know why Mendy needs so much rest, its not as if he has played every single this season, I prefer to take him off as a sub to make things easier.
     
  10. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    This was supposed to be a rebuilding season, we’re doing much better than expected and got lucky that Barca have been garbage so no, should be out of the question, what exactly is your rationale for the sack? Do you think a different coach would do better with this attack especially when Hazard was out for 3 months? Or have us be so defensively sound? Motivate the likes of Kroos to give their best game in and game out?

    The positives have far outweighed the negatives, while I don’t agree with all of his decision, sacking is the last thing I think about, I want to see him get some offensive firepower next summer, a back up for Casemiro and whatever else he needs then we can start talking about whether or not he deserves to continue leading this team.
     
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  11. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yes. There's no excuse not to win the league vs the weakest Barcelona and Atletico in forever. He had 300M of investments coming in.

    Especially if he continues with some mind-boggling decisions like playing Marcelo, Bale or not giving minutes to Jovic and even Rodrygo.

    I love him and want him to be our Ferguson but he has things to improve on.
     
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  12. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Not happy with management.
    Had the easiest run to win CdR, screwed it.

    Should have been able to open up a decisive point gap at the top of the table of league with arguably the weakest Barcelona in years struggling with injuries, managerial ******** ups and coach changes. Screwed it.

    Already not too optimistic about UCL anyways.
    What's the metric for a successful season then?
     
  13. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Absolutely. The team was setup to win La Liga at least and against one of the worse Barca sides around.

    There is no excuse to not win La Liga this season. The chances have been given to us on a plate half a dozen times so far and we've not taken advantage.
     
  14. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Absolutely not would be my answer
     
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  15. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    So you'd rather wait for Barca and atleti to strengthen and then have a go at the league title. Cause it's so easier then then now right?
     
  16. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I don’t ever care what Farca and AM do, we are Madrid, we depend on ourselves, right now I trust ZZ as coach, whether they are weak or strong we should aspire to win and I think with a few reinforcements ( we desperately need a finisher and a backup for Case) we can with ZZ, it’s not like we have been playing rubbish all season long, without a doubt I’d be willing to have him as coach next season, just my opinion
     
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  17. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    We already have bought 100 m player and another sensation from Bundesliga who was banging in goals for fun. How long are we going to make this excuse of needing a few reinforcement every time we let the title slip?
    And while it's true that the team hasn't been playing bad for a stretch, it also is not false to say they've struggled time and again whenever there's a chance to go for the jugular and kill the race instantly
     
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  18. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    Is it Zidane’s fault that the 100 mil man was injured for a long stretch and the Bundesliga sensation sucking big time? Seriously, who would you hire as a replacement?

    And no we haven’t just not played badly we played great most often than not, give this team an actual goal scorer or two and we’re leading the table by double digits.
     
  19. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I can give you Jovic, at least somewhat , banging in goals in the Bundesliga doesn’t mean he will automatically score goals here straight off the bat, we’ve seen this a thousand times before with many different players moving to different leagues , it’s not some strange phenomena that only happened to us with Jovic,

    sometimes these things take time or never happen for some reason, some players move and just continue scoring, some move and it takes time to settle and some move and never regain that scoring form, I am hoping for the best with Jovic, there is no automatic scenario that means just because player x has scored 100 goals in league x he will automatically replicate that with a new team in a new league right away or ever, in the end it’s a bit of a gamble all around

    as for the 100 million man, well, how is it ZZ’s fault the condition he turned up in at his dream club to train , how is it ZZ’s fault his injuries that has stopped him from getting a rhythm with the team, stats may make things seem black and white but every situation is not so

    i always say, I can’t imagine any manager that everyone will agree with every decision or choice they make, that manager does not exist , i too think Jovic should have had a bit ore playing time and I certainly don’t understand one or two other decisions, however looking at how this team was playing last season and how we are doing now ( still top of the league mind you) I’ve seen massive improvement and I for one am not trigger happy to change coach yet
     
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  20. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's zidane fault for not getting at least one player to step and at least give us goals.
    Changing players almost every game, not trying 2 strikers for a batch of games, blindly believing Benz is a striker (and players like Marcelo and Bale). These are zidane's faults.
    He has done well with the midfield And fede and Mendy, but again, too many changes, these players don't play every game for some reason. If he is protecting them because they are injury prune, that's one thing, but just for the sake of changes/rotation doesn't make sense - especially not with how we played every he makes these changes.
     
  21. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One tie and it's already Zidane magic fading takes. Never change, RMBS
     
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  22. AriGold

    AriGold Member+

    Jul 13, 2007
    Göteborg, Sweden
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Or maybe change, just a little.
     
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  23. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Some people do seem to want Zidane to fail it seems
     
  24. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    This league doesn't give you many chances for several ties or Ls before the title is gone. The frustration is well justified IMO
     
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  25. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    I’m glad these people aren’t in charge of the club or else we’d have new manager every other week.
     
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