Wednesday 12 Feb 2020

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Stuart95, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Major League Soccer launches newest Our Soccer campaign ahead of historic 25th season
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...ur-soccer-campaign-ahead-historic-25th-season

    NYCFC CEO Brad Sims addresses backlash over using rival venue Red Bull Arena
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/ne...ms-rival-stadium-backlash-concacaf-red-bulls/

    Alexi Lalas: Nobody has better chance to become relevant faster than New England Revolution
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/new-england-revolution/new-england-revolution-jersey-lalas/

    FC Cincinnati Aiming High Ahead Of Second MLS Season
    https://the18.com/soccer-news/fc-cincinnati-2020-offseason-moves

    One weird thing: FC Dallas’ misguided attempt at marketing to Mexican fans
    https://theathletic.com/1600177/202...sguided-attempt-at-marketing-to-mexican-fans/

    On to Tucson: Red Bulls take 29 players for 2nd preseason camp
    https://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2020...bulls-take-29-players-for-2nd-preseason-camp/

    Thanks to Trademark Battle, Inter Miami Might Be Forced to Rebrand
    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/inter-miami-trademark-dispute-with-inter-milan-ramps-up-11507779

    LAFC GM John Thorrington explains Walker Zimmerman trade to Nashville SC
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...-explains-walker-zimmerman-trade-nashville-sc

    Montreal Impact acquire Argentine midfielder Emanuel Maciel from San Lorenzo
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...gentine-midfielder-emanuel-maciel-san-lorenzo

    Real Salt Lake sign MLS veteran Justin Meram
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/02/11/real-salt-lake-sign-mls-veteran-justin-meram

    RSL Signs El Paso's Chris Garcia to Homegrown Contract
    https://kfoxtv.com/sports/local-spo...my-forward-chris-garcia-to-homegrown-contract

    Chicago Fire FC, Minnesota United swap Raheem Edwards, Wyatt Omsberg
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...sota-united-swap-raheem-edwards-wyatt-omsberg

    ‘Hungry’ Adi looking for redemption, provide depth for the Crew
    https://www.massivereport.com/2020/...tion-with-columbus-crew-caleb-porter-mls-2020

    Andy Najar training with LAFC, no plans for signing at the moment
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...inked-lafc-after-leaving-dc-united-anderlecht

    Miguel Ibarra, searching for MLS home, on trial with Seattle Sounders
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...searching-mls-home-set-trial-seattle-sounders

    Report: Rodolfo Pizarro could be with Inter Miami this week, European-based player sought
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...inter-miami-week-european-based-player-sought

    El Paso’s Mark Lowry showing that different styles of play can succeed in the U.S. lower divisions
    https://theathletic.com/1599804/202...-play-can-succeed-in-the-u-s-lower-divisions/
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That athletic article about how FCD is marketing to Mexican fans is important. Basically, they're selling a mini-package for (IIRC) Pulido, Chicharito, and Vela. That seems like very short term thinking. There will be local newbies who are inclined to root for FCD, and it's going to be a bad experience to go there and see a bunch of fans rooting against the home team. (That's assuming the outreach is a success. If it's a failure, it's a failure.)

    My daughter's soccer team arranged an outing to see Courage FC, the local women's league, and perennial contender. They were playing Orlando featuring Alex Morgan. The stands were full of little girls screaming for Alex. To me as a soccer fan, it was a shitty experience that made me not want to go back.
     
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  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer marketing in the US has always been a study in gathering up the low-hanging fruit.
     
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  4. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that was the late '90s all over again. Come out and see [opposing star] instead of rooting for your local team. Of course, that carried through the Beckham years through Zlatan and surely will be a big deal for whoever the next big name is.

    And speaking of bad, 1990s era icons, that article where Lalas predicts the Revs could be relevant has been talked about since, well, 1996. He was the guy they'd market in the hinterlands, and while he was instrumental in being the "face of the franchise," even the clueless Revs realized by 1997 that being a "star" and being a player who could help you win were two very different things.

    They always would say that if they had a winning team in NE, they'd draw 30,000 fans. Finally, when the team did become good, attendance was at its lowest ever, mostly due to the horrible setup of the new stadium, where parking cost more than the cheapest ticket and all the fans were on one side. Fortunately those problems have been addressed, but the tone-deaf Krafts thought that if they built it, people would come, no matter what.
     
  5. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not a thing unique to soccer in America, though.

    I remember attending Angels games with my dad in the '80s when Gene Autry had opened up his wallet and the team had All-Sttas at almost every position...and it still felt like a road game whenever the Yankees or Red Sox were in town.
     
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  6. jeffclimbs

    jeffclimbs Member

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    These things are definitely not mutually exclusive.
     
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  7. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly, I enjoy seeing visiting iconic players, but I'll always support my team first and foremost.

    I also realize I may be the exception to that rule.
     
  8. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Not to mention it happens all the time in other major american sports leagues and also happens in soccer games around the world.
     
  9. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Agree!... Few years ago, Atletico Mineiro played in Medellin. The great Ronaldinho was playing for them and the stadium was PACKED. The fans were still rooting for the home team, but i bet a lot of people was also wanting to see Ronaldinho play (including me) with their own eyes.
     
  10. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like every time the Galaxy played Real Madrid, Man United (when they were good), Barcelona etc.

    it’s frustrating
     
  11. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Haha! I was going to use the Ronaldinho example too in Liga MX. Nobody supports other teams because of that, but it sure boosts attendance and it is OK
     
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  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That makes all the difference.
     
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  13. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    To be fair, they are really just making people buy that ticket to the SKC game. Even if they didn't do this those two LA games will sell out with people that likely aren't there to root for the team. FCD is damned if they do or damned if they don't in this situation because regardless of what they do here people are showing up for those games in order to root for an opposing player. The only way to counter that would be to sign their own big name Mexican but you'd then just have people showing up to root for a home player and not necessarily the team (and they would probably mostly leave once that player is gone). The only hope you have with the three pack is that you get some on the fence people to come to three games and they actually enjoy what the home team does. And I think you have a better chance of doing that if someone actually comes to multiple games and doesn't just go to the Chicharito or the Vela game. I think it won't work, but it wasn't going to work if they just let people buy individual tickets to that game either.
     
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  14. Mateofelipe

    Mateofelipe Member+

    Mar 10, 2001
    Spokane, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was standing behind the goal back in the SRO days of 77, no such thing as safe standing at Lockhart. We cheered like hell when Pele was introduced, but we were rooting for the Strikers. Not mutually exclusive. If FCD beats the crap out of their heros, the people showing up for the the visitors might decide to like and respect and support the home 11.
     
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  15. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I don't think Dallas area residents will show up to those games in a Kansas City jersey and support them.

    Most probably they will be driven by curiosity to the stadium and while rooting for the player, being either neutral or supporting their local team. And if they have a good time they may come back later.
     

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