Earliest start ever in MLS !

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by tigersoccer2005, Feb 2, 2020.

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When should MLS start?

Poll closed Mar 3, 2020.
  1. Go back to Early April

    5 vote(s)
    12.5%
  2. Late March

    3 vote(s)
    7.5%
  3. Mid March

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Early March

    14 vote(s)
    35.0%
  5. Late February--this is where we will start this season

    7 vote(s)
    17.5%
  6. Mid February- may be needed if MLS pushes past 30 teams

    7 vote(s)
    17.5%
  7. Early Feb--pushing it here

    4 vote(s)
    10.0%
  8. Late Jan-- what the heck?? =o

    1 vote(s)
    2.5%
  9. Just be like Brazil and play year round

    2 vote(s)
    5.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I haven't played in extreme cold (lowest I've experienced while playing was about 35), but I've played in direct sunlight when it was 110+ and humid in Dubai. I'd take the heat any day.
     
  2. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're still talking about average temperatures. In the middle of the US, though the average temperature may be similar or higher to much of Europe, extreme cold weather is more frequent without the sea to moderate temperatures.
     
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  3. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I think some of the smaller Central European leagues take a longer winter hiatus due to weather, don’t they?
     
  4. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only including 34 regular season games, NYCFC had three stretches of more than two home or more than two away. They had four at home, four away, and three at home. From May 4 through July 7, they played four away and then four at home. They had three at home on September 7, 11, and 14. In their five seasons, they have had four game homestands and four game road trips three times. They have never had five or more at home or five or more away.
     
  5. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Something I didn't see here, and gets overlook, is kickoff times. Colorado days in February and March and much more pleasant than nights. Most March days are pretty good, nights are freezing.

    By the way, this comes up with college football in November with U of Colorado in the Pac-12. So many miserable night games when the days were beautiful. And, more to the point, when England and other European countries (not all, I know) play through the winter, the tradition was 3PM kickoffs. Even today, the EPL and the lower leagues are mostly daytime kick-offs. So if MLS, with it's relatively low national TV numbers, could keep cold weather teams to day games in Feb and March it would help. The national TV games for Fox and ESPN (with evening kick offs) can stick to warm weather cities that time of year.
     
  6. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, but it's pitch dark by 4:00 pm in England in the dead of winter. I believe lower-level teams who play then might have earlier starts so they don't need to use lights.

    A lot of people don't realize how far north it is, and the reverse is true in the summer. Years ago, I played on a team in Belgium, and it the summer we played at 8:00 pm on a field with no lights. We never had a problem with daylight, even at the end of games. I felt really bad for the 3 Moroccan guys--one year Ramadan was in the summer and since they couldn't eat or drink water during daylight hours, it made for a long-ass day! I know I could never, ever play a whole game (especially at the end of the day) without eating or having even a sip of water...
     
  7. 2nd Mouse

    2nd Mouse Member+

    Apr 11, 2012
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, what's with you guys playing your home opener on 3/7 at 7:00 at night? As nasty as it can get in early March around here, at least we're playing at noon. The scheduling gods aren't doing you any favors.
     
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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even in March, attendance tends to be better for 7pm kickoffs than day games. Not surprised that we have no home day games scheduled this year.

    From a personal preference I'd much rather deal with a 7pm kickoff, even in March, then have the game in the middle of the day.
     
  9. StevenPrada

    StevenPrada Member

    Jan 26, 2001
    For what it's worth, the cities I listed in Italy have climates that are moderated by the alps (blocking cold air from moving south), much more so than the sea, as none of them are on the peninsula and the smaller Apennines tend to block any moderating air from the Mediterranean, though the Adriatic has it's effects. In addition to what I said above, wintertime tends to be humid and foggy in the north-central and north-western cities I mentioned, and damp cold feels colder than if the air were dry.

    Haven't really done the research, and haven't lived in central European countries to have a great idea of climate in coastal (parts of Spain, parts of France) vs. not (most of Germany, Austria, parts of France, etc). I imagine it's a bit colder and snowier.
     
  10. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I love summer night games, but in March, April, and October prefer day.
     
  11. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Yeah, Rome is north of Columbus.
     
  12. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Um, that's Cleveland.

    Common mistake.
     
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  13. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dallas gets as much total rain on an annual basis as Seattle does.
     
  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But significantly fewer days of rain. ;) Seattle averages 152 days with precipitation per year, while Dallas only averages 78. Seattle also only averages 155 days of sunshine per year, while Dallas averages 235 days. Here's a fun site I found that shows the average number of hours per day of sunlight. It makes me depressed to see how little hours of sunshine Seattle gets.

    Seattle:
    https://www.weather-us.com/en/texas-usa/dallas-climate#daylight_sunshine
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    Dallas:
    https://www.weather-us.com/en/texas-usa/dallas-climate#daylight_sunshine
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  15. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Cleveland, the eternal city, is south of Rome, latitude wise.

    But the Romans don't have tourist attractions like Cleveburg.

     
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  16. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well at least Cleveland can be said to be loyal--they love their Cleveland Browns over there.. The cleveland brownie is an all time great team logo!

    Just think-- in a parallel universe we could've had Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati all in the league and playing annually for the Ohio Cup. It's the same parallel universe where the Red Bulls, NYC and the Cosmos are all in the league together.... Thankfully for TX in the present reality they can enjoy Houston, Dallas, and Austin all in the league (although San Antonio might've been a better choice!) And of course the Golden State has the Galaxy, LA FC, Earthquakes, and soon Sacramento--but sadly no San Diego for the foreseeable future...
     
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  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't realize that. London, which is in southern England, is north of the whole USA except for Alaska. Penzance, which is the southernmost town in England, is about 59 miles north of Angle Inlet, MN, which is the northernmost town in the contiguous states. Glasgow is so far north that in terms of latitude, New York City is closer to Miami than to Glasgow.
     
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  18. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    The Gulf Stream makes Europe warmer. It's instability causes Europe's ice ages I believe. Though North America has had continental ice sheets, so maybe I'm not getting that part right.
     
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