2019 Atlanta United Postmortem and 2020 Preseason

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  1. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ditto. Especially since Arsenal has been abysmal.
     
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  2. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, since Atlanta United has come into my life, I find it difficult to support European teams?

    At best, I’ve said I’ve supported Manchester United, but that was because my cousin is a Chelsea fan, and we liked going back and forth with each other. But in reality, I couldn’t care less about them. Nothing like I care about the Five Stripes!
     
  3. Mach1

    Mach1 Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Acworth, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its certainly nice to have a local club to support.
     
  4. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s still a bit odd for me in a way...

    I’m from Georgia. So all my life all I wanted was a club in Atlanta and I finally got it.

    But I live in Greenville, SC. So obviously I have to root for the Greenville Triumph and support the local team.

    Now, the thing that gets tricky is with Charlotte entering MLS. If it was Raleigh, it’d be a no brainer. But I am more attached to the city of Charlotte than I am the city of Atlanta. So, if they had come in the league at the same time, I probably would have picked Charlotte to pull for. Yet, I find it too difficult to turn my back on the Five Stripes now... even when they drive me nuts with all these offseason crazy stuff.

    I’ll say, I’ll probably go to more Charlotte games. But I can’t see myself pulling for them over Atlanta.

    Anyone else have this dilemma?
     
  5. Gunner

    Gunner Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Marietta, Ga USA



    The link is from a tweet by Eliot McKinley and shows the amount of roster turnover by club (so far) in terms of minutes lost. To no one's surprise Atlanta has nearly the most turnover in the league.

    It'll be interesting to see the impact here in 2020. Looking at the east we see last year's #1 seed, NYCFC, return virtually everyone but they changed coaches. Will there be a philosophy change? Will it impacts results?

    Toronto made the Cup final but they'll be without Bradley for a big chunk of the season due to injury and it sounds like Altidore isnt making many friends with his comments. Does this make them vulnerable?

    New England will be a very interesting study. Appears they have a lot of stability will have Bruce Arena all year. I see them being a big threat this year.


    If you're interested in seeing what it looked like prior to last season?




    Seattle benefited from stability and won the Cup. Toronto saw a ton of turnover and won the east
     
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  6. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Not sure why Emo can't be Nagbe?
    Not the same dilemma, but I have supported every soccer team that came to town since the Atlanta Chiefs. I say go to Charlette games but sport the 5 stripe kit when you do. You will be the sexiest guy in the crowd.
     
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  7. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You'll got anymore of those transfer rumors?
     
  8. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Cristiano Ronaldo's better half is real estate shopping in the ATL.
     
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  9. Gunner

    Gunner Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Marietta, Ga USA

    https://www.afc.co.uk/video/he-is-an-exciting-player-derek-mcinnes-on-his-latest-recruit/


    Interesting article about the collaboration between AUFC and Aberdeen on their pursuit of a player. At the very least it's providing a deeper scouting network
     
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  10. Gunner

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    Apr 19, 1999
    Marietta, Ga USA
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  11. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I have a similar situation physically, because I'm much closer to Nashville. I would have chosen them if they'd come first with no sign of ATL getting a team. But I have no real attachment to Nashville, while I've lived in and around ATL and Middle Georgia in the past. I'm glad ATL came first, because we've had some success and I don't think Nashville is going to amount to much. It'll be fun to be a road fan at their games, tho- see a match AND get back home before some of you guys do for once, lol.

    Does Inter start this season? They seem to be interested in success on the pitch.

    McInnes: “It shows you where we are with our collaboration with Atlanta at the minute. Once we were speaking with their recruitment team it was a player who they were aware of and had flagged up on their system. Jointly we got to know him a bit better. Atlanta have several Venezuelan players and contacts and that allowed us to make inroads into the possibility of bringing him to Aberdeen."

    Right now it looks like we're helping them more than the other way around. I thought Josef was our only Venezolano- do we have any others? I know we don't have "several".

    It might give us a starting ramp place to send guys who are looking for a place in Europe to play. The loony FB bunch and the trolls there tend to bring up Europe a lot.
     
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  12. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Not a bad ROI for a one trick pony that was riding the bench in Atlanta. I love the guy but bit-ness is bit-ness. Now lets go sign some of these other rumors.
     
  13. DonManya

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    C.A. Peñarol
    Uruguay
    Jan 24, 2020
    Tito one of the best wingers in the League??? Maybe FdB didn’t know how to use him:

     
  14. DonManya

    DonManya Member

    C.A. Peñarol
    Uruguay
    Jan 24, 2020
    On another note Sevilla is talking about possibly purchasing Barco for €30 million:



    If we plan to do with the sell of Barco what we have done so far with all the money the club has made in selling all the players that they have sold this offseason I most definitely don’t want Barco sold.

    Now if we are REALLY going to use that money to actually buy Top Notch Young Players I am all for selling him.
     
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  15. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    a) Barco, Pity, et al will be sold eventually. Even if Atlanta won it all last year neither United nor MLS are final destinations for talent with top aspirations. We need to be ready for this as fans.

    b) Presumably the model is to repeat the profiteering that we saw with Almiron. Doesn't mean Atlanta will have the clout and means to land that next big thing every season, but it does mean that each time they successfully make such a sale they have incentive to do it again and the name recognition for getting select players to the bigger leagues.

    So, no, Atlanta hasn't yet landed another Almiron or Barco yet but one off-season doesn't indicate a trend that they're not going to do it again in the future.
     
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  16. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    No doubt. I think everyone knows they weren't going to be here long.

    Well, we may have landed another one- we won't know for certain until he gets to a team that better suits him. Bear in mind that Barco was bought to play in Tata's system. He's still learning Frank's, I'm sure. Thing is, IMO Sevilla wants the Barco who played at River. If he stays here another full season, that guy might not be in him anymore, and Sevilla will know it. If, OTOH, he goes whenever and plays well, I think it'll be fair to say we did find another Miggy, just kinda hobbled him a bit while he was here.
     
  17. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In other news, our road kits look cool. Shorts and socks as with the previously shown shirt.
     
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  18. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    The funny thing about Barco, Tata couldn't find a way to use him in his system. It wasn't until FbB came to town that Barco began to blossom and attract international attention.
     
  19. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe. Or that FdB's arrival coincided with Barco becoming more comfortable in the country, the league, etc. Or a combination of FdB using him better and Barco starting to become comfortable.
     
  20. Mach1

    Mach1 Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Acworth, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's fine, but another all white kit in a sea of all white kits in MLS? Meh.

    Would have liked to have seen them use the gold as the primary color of the secondary kit as well. Would it have been tacky? Probably. Would it have stood out? Definitely.
     
  21. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    New CBA is agreed and by all accounts it's a win-win for both the league and the players. Also opens the door for teams to spend, meaning a) more parties are taking Arthur Blank's comments to heart and b) more teams will be able to spend like Atlanta. (Whether or not they're willing, however...)
     
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  22. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I love it. I hope someday to see one that mimics the pattern of the original home jersey but with alternating white and gold stripes. This new one, however, is a close fit. Like this MUCH more than the current home kit.

    Granted, now it means I need to spend another $180.
     
  23. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Sems for some reason that one of the league kits did have exactly that for the shirt pattern, but I can't find it now.

    So, no socks?

    Do any of us own the socks? I don't. Just curious.
     
  24. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I have 2 pair if socks, one of which was a gift.

    My seat mate seemingly has everything, but he doesn't have any kids to drain his money!
     
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  25. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Hallelujah! Maybe one day we'll join every decent league on the planet and allow owners to put their money where their mouths are.

    I was reading something about how the French league (I think it was France) was forced by law to operate like any other French business and show that they are in the black at the end of the year, or something like that. But other football leagues/clubs don't have to do that, so it's stupid of the French to do it, given they already need tons of help and luck winning the UCL. Some sort of exemption should have been made for footy. Maybe this is the step MLS needed- the reality that money runs the game and Pollyanna Sunshine ends up being relegated.
     
  26. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Now, let's go get some real saviors.
     

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