I'm genuinely surprised they did that. Goal Difference matters in this tournament in the event of a tie. Those 3 minutes may make a difference. I know that most players probably don't care that much in the moment, this could make a real difference.
Common instruction at higher levels is to do this. If it's a blowout, get it over with, before anyone gets hurt or before any stupid discipline issues. I recall a college game here a year ago that was 9-1 at the 90th minute. The ref played 6 minutes of added time (!!). The score ended 11-1 and three red cards resulted (2 to the losing team).
I guess I've heard conflicting instruction around garbage time. From your story, that sounds like a college season game where GD doesn't really matter, whereas this is a tournament with GD as one of the primary tie-breakers. I get that shitty stuff happens in garbage time, but still, it's our job to administer the full game, and players get to make their own choices in that timeframe.
At higher levels, relative to maybe what the average poster is used to here. But not the highest levels. Aside from single-game knockout competitions, I have never heard or heard of instructors for a professional or international setting advocate giving less time than deemed (from a lost time standpoint) correct. I think the exact opposite is true. As you move up the ladder and dabble in tough amateur leagues, yes, you will get a lot of coaching along these lines. The mantra of "added time only causes problems" (read: when it's not clearly necessary and universally expected) gets tossed around a lot. So, no, don't add 6 minutes to a 5-1 blowout in the local amateur league where the two teams despise each other just because there were more injuries than usual. But the expectation at the highest levels is that all time gets accounted for. I have seen--and personally endorse--obvious common sense exceptions. I could see some combination of score line, weather and pitch conditions making it obvious that adding minimal time is what both teams want because no one is even trying to score anymore. That's perfectly okay in my book but it is definitely not "common instruction."
Id agree with massref. In a group stage of a high level international competition where goal difference matters, the instruction has been for added time to be accounted for in blowouts.
If I'm on TV, sure, I'll follow the law to the letter. But how many of us will have this affect us in our local leagues? Did a U18 DA game where the center added 15 minutes to a 3-1 game that really only needed 5 minutes. Dude kept adding time to a game where we were 3 red cards deep, and we had 2 more reds in the 100th. Losing team came back to tie from minute 100-105, and the resulting violence led to me grabbing my bag and dipping as soon as he ended the game. Just shoot the damn horse.
Would anyone here risk getting assaulted for another dude making a major mistake that you couldn't fix? A mistake where you told him repeatedly to "Kill it now, we've lost control and we've given them enough." If my teammate isn't interested in my solutions, I won't be there when the bill comes due for his choices. That other game I mentioned where it hit the fan and it turned into a brawl between two teams and the spectators? I had that guy's back and no one left until we all did. Had he decided to disregard all common sense and kept adding fuel to the flame? Well, that's on him.
@sulfur I'm confused. Why would someone add time in a college game? There is no "added time" in the college game. The clock stops and starts for specific reasons. Sounds like a major mistake to me.
I'm not sure that I could find any reason to add 15 minutes, unless there was an injury that required calling an ambulance. 15 minutes is absolutely ridiculous! Hopefully, that guy does not get any more DA games.
US College isn't the only "college game" out there. Canada has a college "league" (where yes, goal differential does play a significant role in playoff qualification) that does NOT follow the NCAA rules but follows the IFAB LotG.. We also have a university "league" that runs under slightly different rules (but the same IFAB LotG as everything else we do 11v11) So no, not a major mistake at all.
PAN vs HAI R: MARCOTTE, MYRIAM (Canada) AR1: BOUDREAU, CHANTAL RENEE (Canada) AR2: YEE SING, STEPHANIE-DALE CHRISTINA (Jamaica) 4th Official: VENEGAS MONTES, LUCILA (Mexico) USA - Costa Rica R: GONZALEZ, FRANCIA MARIA (Mexico) AR1: CHAVEZ GARCIA, MAYTE IVONNE (Mexico) AR2: DIAZ MEDINA, KAREN JANETT (Mexico) 4th Official: HAMILTON, ODETTE ROCHELLE (Jamaica)
Yee Sing can give one back to Haiti against Panama... Hamilton seems to have been blamed the most, rightly so. If your AR has a severe mind cramp, you have to know they are having a severe mind cramp.
By the way the comment about BL games being played without stoppage time when there is a clear winner is spot on; it is totally accepted practice there.
Another gift to the US (this time a phantom goal given). Maybe it was all the way across the line, but I've yet to seen evidence it was. 🤷♀️ pic.twitter.com/Ot9bOEHT2g— U.S. Women's National Soccer Team (@USWNT) February 4, 2020
It really hasn't mattered because these games were not competitive, but with the level of basic mistakes that we've seen in these games, I hope that when there is finally a competitive game a refereeing error doesn't keep somebody from the Olympics. Here's a concept: If there are not enough competent women referees to do these games, get some men to do them....
I would in no way call that evidence of a ghost goal. That angle is terrible, but I think there’s a really decent chance that’s in.
There is no way that was in. I was 4th row behind the right half of the goal. The ball was squarely on the line. I thought the ref was calling a foul against the US until I caught the AR running up the line. It was also the only goal that didn't have a replay shown in the stadium...
There was one angle shown on TV that showed the ball was across the line. It was the angle closest to the AR's angle. She might have missed it by a half inch; hardly much of an error considering the prior game AR work. The still shot there is after the ball bounced off the ground. Amazing how much backspin a ball off the crossbar has to bounce straight out. It wasn't Germany v England in the 2010 (?) WC that ushered in Hawkeye obvious, but it wasn't obvious that it wasn't in.
I'm all for piling on bad refereeing and there have been some spectacularly bad calls on women's international matches over the years (remember when a defender literally caught the ball in the penalty area at a women's world cup a few years), but let's not make this "ghost goal" some referendum on the state of women's international officiating. This goal could have been "awarded" in any competition that doesn't use goal line technology or VAR in the world for both genders. One of the best referees in the world the past decade or so some how gave this goal: Where were the cries to replace him?
I was also thinking of the Haitian goal that was called back for what appeared to be an offside on a corner kick. There were also seem to be way too many basic missed calls on whether a particular team won the throw in or a corner kick versus a goal kick. There was an absolutely clear US corner that was called a goal kick in this game. No big deal here, but what happens if it's made in the 90th minute of a game where the US needs one goal to tie, to make the Olympics? I also thought they missed a possible red card elbow by Carli Lloyd, and I'm a US fan!
Because it's expensive and the officials aren't trained in using it even if it is available. It's not some magic elixir as we've seen in the EPL. The EPL trained for about an entire summer on using VAR and practically has unlimited resources and officials with more than 15+ years of experience at the highest levels of the game in the world and it's a total clown show. Yet people think dropping it into some CONCACAF women's tournament with officials who probably don't referee games on a week to week basis that are not much higher in quality than your local DA or PDL game is going to work real well?