Craven the Lifestyle: Antonee Robinson at Fulham

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  1. appoo

    appoo Member+

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  2. ChambersWI

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    Of course they did Li was a fan and promised to inject a lot of money into the club. That didnt happen. Not only did it not happen the two guys he put in charge of the club in Fassone and Mirabelli did an awful job with transfers and giving out some hefty wages which got Milan in trouble.

    Now obviously Milan fans are not all gonna like Elliot as they are not investing in big names, and they also right now are nor gonna like Gazidis since they are trying to cut wages first and foremost right now.... but they brought Maldini and Boban back to the club and despite the awful hire of Giampolo to be manager to start the season, pretty much all of their signings have been solid when they play.


    But again more Milan fans are pissed that until a sale of the club is made that the club is focusing more on youth
     
  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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    10% is for left-handers. Studies show that less than half of left-handed people are left-footed, and the percent of right-handed people who are also left-footed (not ambi) is negligible.
     
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  4. striker

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    I learn something new here all the time. Did not know that foot and hand are controlled differently.
     
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  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

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    There is a lack of actual scientific studies*, but I'm a lefty (hand) and ambi (feet). When you're ambi, they put you on attack. It's usually the kids who are pure lefty (foot) who are put to play LB/LWB.

    This is the closest one can find to actual studies, everything else is anecdotal:

    http://archive.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/20120930dominant-hand-dominant-match.html

    * Online. Being a lefty I was interested at some point in lefty-things, so I've seen actual studies about left-footedness but they don't seem to be online.
     
  6. Cyclops1776

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    But you are wrong and provide zero sources to back this up.
     
  7. Suyuntuy

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  8. ArsenalMetro

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    Chicago, IL
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    Only on BigSoccer does a shock move of a young American to AC Milan become an argument about vulture capitalism within a couple of hours.
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

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    It's a risky move. Truth be told, I'm not happy about it for several reasons:

    1) He'll be backup to a guy who is never injured and seldom suspended;

    2) I don't think Robinson is good enough to get the starting role for long, even if a meteorite fell on Theo Hernandez;

    3) I have my suspicions this move has to do with some other deals the current American owner of the club has in the back-burner.

    I much rather have him starting every Championship game, or transferred to some club where he's going to be a rotational starter.

    We'll see.
     
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  10. Cyclops1776

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    Apr 6, 2017
    you’re the one who came to a conversation with the assertion that everyone likes the Chinese better and hates Elliot because they’re a vulture fund. It’s just not that black-and-white and not as much of a categorical fact is you make it out to be.
     
  11. ArsenalMetro

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    Yeah, but so is staying with Wigan and dropping to League One. If he fails at Milan, he'll land in a much better place than he would have even if he managed to escape Wigan.

    Your other points are spot on though.
     
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  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

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    With Wigan he looked one of the best players for them. He was not going to go down to League One, he was going to be picked up by some mid-table Championship team that was going to play him consistently and with a bit of luck try promotion.

    That was the patient way to go about it, because Robinson is a decent player but not that good. I'm being honest here.

    With Milan, a club that is going through a dark patch but has a BIG history and demanding fans, he has no real shot of landing a starting spot. Scouts will have to go to training sessions and the rare reserve games because the Settore Giovanile only has U19 players (Primavera) and below.

    It's not like other leagues, Serie A squad guys can spend months without playing a single game, unless they get loaned out. Only Juve has a proper U23 playing in Serie C.
     
  13. ArsenalMetro

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    And if he misses the mark at Milan, he probably still lands in a top-flight Euro league. Better that than mired in the Championship abyss.
     
  14. glutton4Bolts

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    ESPN+ carries Serie A so I am hoping to see Antonee play soon. US Intls are seriously underrepresented in that league so I don't watch it all that often.
     
  15. kruck

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    It's unclear to me why AC Milan is willing to spend 10 million pounds on a back up LB who is older then the current starter and who, apparently, is really good.

    I mean, I guess I haven't been paying attention but has Robinson been playing extremely well in the Championship and does this move make sense?
     
  16. butters59

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    Feb 22, 2013
    It isn't like Robinson is some untalented hack. The talent is there. He doesn't know how to play defense properly. There is no better place to learn it than Serie A, and apparently Milan thinks that they'll be able to teach him. Risky, but that's not Chelsea or something, just can't such an opportunity to pass you by.
     
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  17. ChambersWI

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    For the record this has nothing to do with Elliott wanting an American. Gazidis told Boban and Maldini to find another young LB to play behind Theo. It was between Robinson, Matias Vina from Nacional, and Aaron Hickey of Hearts.

    Milan is also reportedly getting young Alexis Saelemaker from Anderlecht. The window is about getting young guys to develop as potential contributors.
     
  18. Cyclops1776

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    I think that we need a quality backup and if Theo keeps playing like this who knows if we will be able to hold onto him.
     
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  19. TxEx

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    This is just my speculation but Theo Hernandez is supposedly the best LB in Serie A. Which for a team that's shedding payroll probably means he's going to be a hot commodity this summer. Robinson has a chance in the cup games to prove he can earn the starting job in the summer if Hernandez is sold. AC Milan is trying to get younger, cheaper, and more financially balanced. Selling either Hernandez or Rodriguez this summer should pay for Robinson and open up opportunities.

    Can't say I absolutely love this move but there's no doubt he's on a much higher profile team, making way more money (that he gets to keep due to Italy's new tax laws), and has a chance to truly jump start his European career. It's bold and going to be fascinating to watch.
     
  20. bsky22

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    What is this based on? What does he do wrong?
     
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  21. TimB4Last

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    Maybe you can't say it, but I can. Love it, Love it, Lovitzomuch! Much higher doesn't begin to describe it, and I really like to see our guys aim high.
     
  22. Eighteen Alpha

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    Seems some, at least, don’t under rate the Championship.
     
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  23. FC Tallavana

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    Love this move because it's not a free transfer. He will get a shot to play or he will be sold to someone who sees him as a guy who couldn't win a starting job at AC Milan instead of as a guy who might be too good for the third division of English soccer. That difference in perception could pay huge dividends for him professionally, both on and off the field.
     
  24. Gorky

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    Wow, this is happening. I feel like an idiot.
     
  25. LouisZ

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    I guess its time for me to take the voodoo doll out from storage.
     
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