Indeed. You can bet other shoes will drop. That is why the R's senators position is untenable. They are truly in a bind. HUGE: ABC gets a recording that backs up Parnas' claim that Trump ordered Yovanovitch at a small gathering in April.https://t.co/7855ySKSMu— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) January 24, 2020
Yes, because this timing is so much better than having it before the house voted to impeach and it would be evidence included in the impeachment. I mean, it is a good thing that the impeachment investigation was rushed in the house to get it done before the primaries started. Perfect coordination for sure.
538 take on the polling for impeachment. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-latest-polling-on-trumps-removal-does-and-doesnt-mean/
Trumpian? Lol how I despise the guy, I am just pragmatic and realistic. Just because I want him removed doesn't mean I think his detractors or heroic or amazing because they are not.
I think the OS is ok but it hasn't been patched since 1992, and only 27 times! *Edit* dapip already said this as I didn't read the rest of this thread
You may not realize this, but these proceedings are taking place when a majority of America is at work and can't watch. I work in a place that doesn't allow news channels to be watched or politics to be discussed. It's not like people here don't care.
When you have lost Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins you have lost the impeachment. Perhaps it is time to move on?
Allow me to repeat myself. It was always going to be nearly impossible to convict. The point isn't to get Trump out of office. The point is to show American voters what GOP congressmen condone.
Well that strategy is not working, the Donks with this impeachment circus have gotten Trump reelected.
I can't find the tweet but a friend of a friend wrote that if Trump shot someone on Fifth Avenue, he'd get 53 votes in the senate to acquit. Unless he shot a Republican Senator, then he'd only get 52 votes.
The strategy would not work for you, because it is directed at so called independents. But as I posted above, it is also not really working with independents. The votes during this impeachment will be used during campaigns come November, both against Republicans in swing states and against democrats in red states. If Collins, McSalley and Gardner win re-election in November, then yes it means it did not work and that people did not believe Trump committed the crime (or at least it was not enough to impeach). If all 3 lose and Democrats pick up other Senate seats, then the argument will be that it did work. We won't know for sure, but we may have an idea after November.
How am I not an independent? I've already publicly said I'd vote for Tulsi Gabbard or Andrew Yang. You on the other hand seem to be strictly a one party voter.
H. Clinton was the first time I ever voted for a Democrat for President. But it is true, going forward I will be a one party voter. Unless we get some electoral law reform that make us a multi party country and not a duopoly.
Neither not being one. It has to be a take over from with in, but if Trump (or Sanders) didn't break up a party, I am not sure what will.
That may not be the most important problem in our politics right now. 1. Polling data suggests you're wrong. 2. I didn't mention Trump in my post. 3. The numbers for Susan Collins, Gardner, and McSally have taken a clear, dire, turn for the worse. Gardner and McSally are probably dead men walking (in part because of the quality of the presumptive Dem candidates.)
Probably an outlier, but likely voters favor removal 57-37. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...oving-trump-from-office-poll-finds/ar-BBZ9SUT But I take hope from the "likely voter" screen.
Correct - the only way you'll get any votes for removal from any Republican senator is if they combine A. a genuine concern for the integrity of US democracy and B. no desire to run for reelection, or to obtain a future position that depends on popularity within the party. As it stands, even those who meet criteria B don't meet A. Or alternatively, you might get removal votes if they'd concluded that Trump winning reelection would actually be a bad outcome for everyone - including Republicans. I think that would be a correct conclusion, but the current mentality within the GOP seems entirely short term, and probably shortsighted.
As far as shaming Republicans goes - every time a GOP senator claims that they just want the American people to decide in November on who should be president, the very next question should be "So why are you voting to hide relevant evidence from the American people?" That would not be a biased, nor partisan Democratic response - it's the obvious and logical followup question. Come on, journalists. This isn't hard.