Matchday 24: Chelsea FC vs Arsenal FC

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by Kazuma, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    another short corner, just patheytic day
     
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  2. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    CHO has a ton of talent and promise, but having to rely on him at this stage just isn't that effective. he's going to be inconsistent, he's not been great today. a few flashes, sure. but not great on the balance.
     
  3. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Soooooo EXACTLY the same problems again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again, seriously WTF! I refuse to believe I am going to watch a whole season of identical games, I have NEVER been so frustrated with the game, let's be honest failing to win this game is simply a f*cking disgrace.
     
  4. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    2 points dropped. I don't think we will make top 4 this year. Just don't have the mentality. Teams have figured out how to beat us and we have no answers. Dropping points to a team playing with 10 men for the majority of the game. Unless something magically happens in the remaining 10 days of the transfer window (not holding my breath).
     
  5. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    fairer I think to say teams have figured out how to stop us and keep themselves in with a shot, of which we generously give far too often

    seems an oxymoron but we get a break with a tough schedule for the next month, we looked sharp til sideshow went tropo and Arse turned into Newcastle

    As to 4th, still like our chances, ManU with injuries and inconsistent play, and tots self destructing have their own issues, don't see Wolves knocking us out, Sheffield may have the best shot:eek::cautious: but yea we gotta kick it up and learn how to open up the bus lot.

    We really need a striker with some skills, Bats has become useless:(, and do think Lamp should have used Giroud more, especially in games like today for the last 30 at least, with Tammy and if Tammy is hurt we are effed, may have to give our youth star a shot to see if he can help yet with out ruining him

    We really need Pul back, who is shining even brighter in his absence. We really need a hard player, somewhere, who will knock opposition and more importantly our own players heads on days like this....
     
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  6. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    fairer I think to say teams have figured out how to stop us and keep themselves in with a shot, of which we generously give far too often

    seems an oxymoron but we get a break with a tough schedule for the next month, we looked sharp til sideshow went tropo

    As to 4th, still like our chances, ManU with injuries and inconsistent play, and tots self destructing have their own issues, don't see Wolves knocking us out, Sheffield may have the best shot:eek::cautious: but yea we gotta kick it up and learn how to open up the us lot.

    We really need a striker with some skills, Bats has become useless:(, and do think Lamp should have used Giroud more, especially in games like today for the last 30 at least, with Tammy and if Tammy is hurt we are effed, may have to give our youth star a shot to see if he can help yet with out ruining him

    We really need Pul back, who is shining even brighter in his absence. We really need a hard player, somewhere, who will knock opposition and more importantly our own players heads on days like this....
     
  7. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    17 corners in this game for us. Surely one of them must result in a goal?
     
  8. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

    Nov 4, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    David Luiz handed us the W on a silver platter and we managed to ******** it up... crazy how bad of a turn this season has taken yet we are still, almost comfortably, top 4. And in the knockout stages of the CL. Yet..despite those two things, I feel like we got relegated today. How bad was that? Right after what went down at Newcastle... yikes man. All of these players need a smack upside the ********ing head.

    Lampard has to make some kind of drastic change because at the moment it feels like we are in a bit of free fall playing this way. The feeling is a very bad one. Don’t think he’s at risk but boy.. Supah has gotta come up with something tactically or lineup-wise ASAP... but what? Kante holding, return to a back 3 .. then we lose our attacking impetus.. especially if we’re relying on CHO and Willian (l m a o)
     
  9. JimWharton

    JimWharton Member+

    Feb 25, 2017
    That was so hard to watch. Soooo many corners, too many short. I’m over Kepa. Bats has to be over. Maybe he should stop aiming for the goal. Cho was killing the kid on the wing, but his wild crosses did us no favors.

    Are we lacking veteran leadership on the pitch? Is Dave enough out there? When Tammy was struggling with his ankle and we were essentially 10 v 10, it was chaos. When Bellerin scored, it was all screaming and pointing.

    Feels like this loss was on the players, but I can’t say I understand Frank’s subs. Unless Kante is injured or we’re up by 60, why does he ever come off? We’re never better without him.

    This may feel like a loss, but it’s still good for a point.
     
  10. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    So difficult to process this match. How the ******** we end up screwing up over and over again. I mean really....against 10 men....with that many corners and possession. It's just really bad display. Lampard needs to scrap this MF of 3 fairly defensive players. His subs were way too late as well today. Just sad.
     
  11. ComeOnChelsea

    ComeOnChelsea Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    total frustration watching that

    I don't care if Giroud is slow and can't high press, I would rather see him than Bats.

    I definitely thought Frank would try some other formations as the season went on. Like many people for the last 1.5 years, I would like to just try....just try some type of 4-2-3-1 with Kante in Kante position
     
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  12. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    How are we blaming Kepa for this one?

    Breakaway for the first goal.
    Give Bellerin all the time in the world to slot home a perfectly placed shot on target.

    There is so many other worse things wrong.
     
  13. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Michy - Batsman never really caught on with the fans eh? - Michy seems like a really nice bloke. He wants to play for us and he always has wanted to play for us. Loyal. Great bloke. However. . .he is shit. He is shit and he is getting worse.
     
  14. Dr_Intoxicated

    Dr_Intoxicated Member+

    Sep 10, 2002
    London
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    He is to blame because he fails to instill a sense of confidence at the back. Rather than help the defence by controlling the penalty area he puts them under pressure by not coming out for crosses and slow distribution.

    But most damming of all he has no confidence in himself. Look at the wild staring eyes, he is like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

    Keeping is a position of confidence and he has lost it and the contagion is spreading.
     
  15. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Wow. Its interesting to see this written out be people and they believe it.

    It's a lazy narrative introduced by lazy journos.

    What about the ten other players who can't control their area or instill confidence? Or the manager? Doesn't it start with him?
     
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  16. limpidrock

    limpidrock Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    We were doing pretty well with the pairing of Jorginho and Kovacic in the middle of the park. Things changed after Kante came into the side.
     
  17. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    we need Pulisic and RLC back and healthy and never injured again.
     
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  18. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    OK, this was a tough draw that felt like a loss and everything...but let's sit back and close our eyes and think back to the beginning of the season:

    -"Hey, we're gunna have a new manager. He's a club legend, young, but relatively inexperienced. But he and his staff know the youth well and will try to integrate them. There might be a big learning curve."
    -"By the way, you can't buy anyone in the summer."
    -"Oh, we're selling our best player. We have to. He wants to go to Madrid."
    -"Oh, hey, David Luiz is leaving. I know the season is starting and he's a veteran. He doesn't agree with where the club is headed and is going to Arsenal. We'll have to cancel the Tomori loan and integrate him into the squad instead. Oh, and Rudiger is out for like, a long time. So is Kante."

    January 24 2020:

    -4th round FA Cup
    -knockout stages of CL (advancing from group of ajax, lille, valencia)
    -5 points clear in 4th place in league
    -ban lifted
    -tammy, mount, pulisic, tomori all getting significant minutes
    -spurs, arsenal, united are below us

    Would you take it? It's not bad if you went into a coma the week before the season and woke up today.
     
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  19. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I am glad we are where we are as I thought we will struggle a lot. The thing is we are still in a good position due to our great honeymoon period at the start of the season. We haven't looked great for close to 2 months now and sadly I don't see improvements. We play the exactly the same against teams that bunker and expect things to change. I agree it is probably the players as has been the case for a while now but we haven't really looked like improving there either. Feels like all other transfer windows where the club's puts all their eggs in one basket and keeps procrastinating till the last day.

    Also, Lamps hasn't covered himself in glory. His team selections and in game management has been suspect for a while now. But he is a smart man and hopefully he can play the way he wants when he gets his players.

    We are in a decent position because the other teams are far worse. Not because of our good football.
     
  20. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Lamps looks as if he might be a really good manager when he gets a few years under his belt. He isn't bad now, and the keeper hasn't helped him out at all. He does nothing spectacular which is not what I would expect from a club like Chelsea. A left back would help matters out a lot.
     
  21. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Ok geniuses please tell us which NON_INJURED players have not been starting like they should the last few, and which spectacular game changers were not subbed in???
     
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  22. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

    Nov 4, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Its all hot air. Happens every time we hit a bad patch. Conte finished his second season in 5th with Hazard in the team. Sarri barely got us third in large part thanks to Spuds, Arse and United imploding.

    Lamps is doing a great job. Things just aren’t hot at the moment due to a variety of reasons.
     
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  23. Dr_Intoxicated

    Dr_Intoxicated Member+

    Sep 10, 2002
    London
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Not lazy journalism, just the feeling of many FANS in the West lower stand.

    It also appears to be the opinion of Frank Lampard
     
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  24. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I hear you, Lampard has limited options. I might probably try bring in Giroud more as Bats has just been useless. Other than that, I don't see any issues with his team selection. Rather than personnel, my recent gripe is that I am not seeing progression from the mistakes made in previous matches. If we were changing things intelligently and still losing due to non-execution, I wouldn't be bothered. To my eye, I feel I see the same tactics, same issues in every game. In the first 20 mins you realize how the game is going to go (playing around with the ball waiting for the perfect opportunity and getting countered).

    At the start of the season, I could see a solid plan - high press, direct quick play, multiple players making runs. I am not sure how we play nowadays to be honest.

    Like I said, fully behind Lamps and hope he gets his players and that would be the right time to judge. I have been wanting changes in personnel for a while now and hopefully that will give us the impetus to build a good squad.
     
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