Does anyone got team budgets from Allsvenskan and SAS league? In Norway (Eliteserien): Rosenborg 120 millioner norske kroner Vålerenga 60 Brann 50,5 Viking 49 Molde 39 Lillestrøm 38 Fredrikstad 37 Aalesund 35 Tromsø 32 Lyn 31 Start 28 Bodø/Glimt 27 Ham-Kam 24,5 Odd Grenland 23,5
I know the Finnish league has a low budget. HJK Helsinki, the richest club in the country have an operating budget of about 2 million euros, 1 million euros going to player salaries and transfers. Allsvenskan cannot be too much more than that.
Bruiser: From dagbladet.no urtel: Does Jari Litmanen play in the finnish league? And has the finnish icehockey league higher attendance than your football league? Thanks for your budget information
Ok, thanks. Great to know Aalesund FK is getting up and about also in the financial part of the game.
Jari Litmanen is currently playing for FC Lahti, his mother club. The Italian club Livorno is trying to sign him. His play during the Brahain tournament brought attention back to his skills, despite his age. Personally, I thought after last season's lack-luster performance, I thought he'd hang up the boots. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's difficult to compare hockey to football! The Hartwal Areena holds 12 000 spectators, but it's often unfilled. The average attendance so far in the SM-Liiga (hockey) is around 4 000 spectators. Last year's Veikkausliiga (football) attendance was around 3 000. Take it as you want. Interest is growing in Finnish football, but it's easy to follow two sports, especially when their seasons don't conflict.
It's almost impossible even to get to the bottom of the Danish league club accounts, and getting team budgets is hopeless... Except for AGF, they have just made their expected budgets/turnovers for the next years available, so here you are : .........2004/05 ............... 2005/06 ........... 2006/07 .... DKK 61,5 million....... 84,1 million......... 92,7 million Other than that, I got the old 2003 accounts from AaB, Brøndby, FC Copenhagen, Silkeborg (newly promoted this season) and AB Copenhagen (1st division), which is as follow : FC Copenhagen: PARKEN Sport & Entertainment Turnover : DKK 369.9 million .... expected Turnover ?? This past years account show a huge progress at FCK... This years turnover has has reached a record €49.7 million (DKK 369.9 million) and despite a €2.4 million (DKK 18m) deficit on transfers, the profit reached €5.47 million (DKK 40.7m). The reason being bigger merchandise sales €3.2 million (DKK 23.8 m) Partner and accountant at Deloitte & Touche, Jesper Jørgensen, says "Parken (FCK) have earnings, that makes them afford expencive players, but it's a whole other story, if they are worth the money. It's not all that good, when they dont reach further in Europe". ----- Brøndby 2003 Turnover : DKK 124.3 million .... expected Turnover 2004 ?? ---- AAB Ålborg 2003 Turnover : DKK 76.8 million .... expected Turnover 2004 ?? ---- Silkeborg IF Fodbold (newly promoted this 2004/05 season) 2003 Turnover : DKK 24 million .... expected Turnover 2004 ?? ---- AB Copenhagen (relegated to the 1st division last season) 2003 Turnover : DKK 28.1 million .... expected Turnover 2004 ?? .
Here are the incomes from the teams in Allsvenskan 2003: AIK 74,3 Malmö FF 66,5 Helsingborgs IF 63,3 Hammarby 63,3 Djurgårdens IF FF 60,0 IFK Göteborg 50,0 Örgryte IS 37,2 Landskrona BoIS 35,1 Örebro SK FK 33,6 GIF Sundsvall 32,7 IF Elfsborg 32,0 Halmstads BK 30,9 Östers IF 21,1 Enköpings SK FK 17,2 All values is in millions of SEK. (1 Euro is now 8,97 SEK) Here you can find the whole report from the swedish soccer association (in swedish): http://www.svenskfotboll.se/files/{01E3C5C1-07B3-4256-9BBA-7B154FC4117F}.pdf Östers IF and Enköpings SK dropped down to "Superettan".
Yes, I forgot to write that €1 = DKK 7.44 (or US$1 = DKK 5.46 ) DKK 100 = around 110 Norwegian or 120 Swedish kroner ... .
The swedish newspaper Aftonbladet wrote about this not so long ago, for example AIK had 179 000 sek , stunning. And Djurgården about 8 000 000 sek. Swedish clubs have nothing, they have to qualify for Europe and make som money !
Seems like the swedish avarage budgets are higher than the norwegian. What are these 179.000 and 8.000.000 sek? Money available for transfer? I dont think many scandinavian clubs got more than 8 million available for bying players. Even Rosenborg is not willing to pay more than that.
No, Rosenborg is only 3 best in Scandinavia when it comes to money: 1. FC Copenhagen DKK 369.9 million (€49.7 million) 2003/04 figures 2. Brøndby DKK 124.3 million (€16.7 million) 2003/04 figures 3. Rosenborg NOK 120 million (€14.5 million) expected 2005 figures ! .
In 2003 the transfer spendings was the following: Malmö FF 17,9 AIK 5,9 IFK Göteborg 5,5 IF Elfsborg 3,3 Hammarby 2,6 Halmstads BK 2,6 Helsingborgs IF 1,7 GIF Sundsvall 1,7 Örebro SK FK 1,7 Enköpings SK FK 0,9 Östers IF 0,8 Örgryte IS 0,7 Landskrona BoIS 0,5 All values is in millions of SEK. The data is found in the report from the swedish soccer association (in swedish): http://www.svenskfotboll.se/files/{01E3C5C1-07B3-4256-9BBA-7B154FC4117F}.pdf
If anyone is interested in knowing how FCK get to be so rich then here is a more specified accunt in round figures : PARKEN Sport & Entertainment A/S 2003/04 Ticket & TV-income 33 milions Sponsorships 74.9 millions Rent income, Stadium* 32 millions Investment property 21.8 millions F&B and conference center 105 millions Merchandise 23.8 millions Provision and Ticket sales* 42.7 millions Other sales** 17.1 millions Other income** 19.6 millions -------------------------------------- Turnover in all 369.9 million * Danish NT and Concerts (Rolling Stones, Robbie Williams, Eric Clapton and Metallica, "Zulu Rocks PARKEN" with Mary D. Blige, Black Eyed Peas and Tim Christensen. "Rock N Royal" in honour of the Royal wedding.) ** Most likely transfers and Europa cup profits from 2003/04 --------------- If anyone care to look at the FCK accounts you can download them below, you find the turnover/budget at page 24 of 25 : http://www.fck.dk/grafik/diverse/930200412342_aar_2003_2004.pdf .
They aren't. The paychecks are way higher in Tippeligaen so the budgets must also be way higher. And Brann has already spent around 18 million NOK just for the 2005 season. Andresen cost 15 million in total and they've bought a starting International rightback from Iceland for a couple of millions. Brann-investors said they would chip in with atleast 40 million NOK for transfers, alone.
What are the non-EU labor laws like? 2 non-Euros per team in Norway and 3 each in Denmark and Sweden?
In sweden the rule says maximum 3 non-EU players in the starting team. The non-EU player need a swedish football player licence and a work permit, the club help the player with this. To get a licence and a work permit is no problem at all if the club want the player.
And still.. With so much money, they don't even manage to be in the Champions League? Rosenborgs money comes from: 9 times in the CL/ out of 10 attempts!
Well - the football team is not the only thing in FCK aka PSE. The stadium itself is a big business, Lalandia (a waterworld thingie in Denmark) and the handball team also has part of that budget. Anyhow, what does this have to do with the topic?
Having to qualify in the 1st or 2nd round is difficult for any team. If any other Scandinavian team makes it to Champions' League, it's a big thing. Especially when HJK accomplished said feat back in 1998. So far, they were the first team to do so...but FC Haka and AC Allianssi are looking to break that streak.
Your quite right, it looks strange... FCK got a huge advantage in compare with other Scandinavian clubs (even without any CL money) and they also got players that would never play in Scandinavia if it was not for the big wages FCK can afford, but the reality is that FCK does not even have the 2nd best Danish Europa cup results the past many years, despite their huge money/player advantage... so why is it that they always seem to fail in Europe ??... In all fairness, it should be said that FCK is undefeated in Europa cup away games the past two seasons, even dominating their games vs. teams like Mallorca and Glasgow Rangers, showing some brilliant short passing but then seem to fail in their home games. It should also be said that other Danish clubs are happy to see FCK fail in CL so far, since the money/player gap would grow far bigger if FCK actually managed to qualify for the CL... In my view FCK fail in compare with other scandinavian top clubs like Rosenborg and Brøndby, because other Scandinavian clubs only do what they know they are good at, when they try to get success in Europe with the limited budgets and players they can afford, while FCK say they want to be among the top 25 biggest clubs in Europe and insists on using a style of play much like an Italian top club and also got the squad with by far the best tecnical skills and short passing in Scandinavia. However, FCK still cant compete with the big budgets or star players, like in the big clubs in Italy... So by not wanting to face their limits and play more tactical clever, they fail in Europe... at least that is my opinion, having watched Danish Europa cup games since 1986... .
As usual you're passing of bs as facts. How can they have the best players and still be outplayed by Gorica? That's easy to answer; They don't. There's no one in FCK with the skills of Berg or Winsnes or Solli or Andresen. How I know that? Hoseth was voted best FCK'er of the FCK fans in 2004, and he's not as good as Berg or Winses or Andresen technically. Also, there's no defender in FCK that's nearly as good as Brann's Ragnvald Soma. How I know that? Well, Soma is just that good. Brøndby a top Scandinavian team? Hardly. Maybe when they're good enough to qualify for the CL.