What happens when the Fire do not make the playoffs this season?

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by der sting, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. der sting

    der sting Member

    Oct 1, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    As the Fire have a new regime yet to be proven in MLS, a very incomplete and uncompetitive roster and 50 days until the opener, what are the odds the team makes the playoffs this season Even if the new additions (if and when they arrive) gel perfectly and there are no injuries or prolonged national team call up absences, the odds as they sit now are not looking very good.

    I would be happy to be proven wrong but just not feeling it this year.
     
  2. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
     
  3. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get drunk and watch the White Sox in the playoffs - so basically the same as all of the other years, but the White Sox are good.
     
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  4. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    The odds that this franchise doesn't exist in five years is higher than I think people appreciate.

    This situation is a couple of wrong moves from a Chivas being the only option.
     
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  5. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd ********ing welcome it at this point.
     
  6. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point no fire fan can be too optimistic. They still have time to wow us with some great acquisitions but we will see. Obviously if they don't make the playoffs the attendance will stink. I don't think joe will give up on heitz quickly.
     
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  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I guess for prolonged national team call-up, that is likely for Frankowski and Lewandow...no, I can't finish that.

    Really, it is way too early to speculate.
     
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  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If Joe Manseuto was not a Chicagoan, I might agree with you.

    With his investment to this point, I don't think so.
     
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  9. Jake Roberts

    Jake Roberts Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 7, 2018
    Well if they are that bad, maybe they need to be shut down and a new franchise comes in Chicago. The expansion team would get all the benefits that Atlanta United, LAFC and Miami have gotten.

    I'd rather go 2 years without a team and them coming in fast and strong like one of those teams, instead of this 8 year quasi rebuild that the fire have been going through anyway.
     
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  10. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Either way, the first step is admitting the problem.
     
  11. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't expect them to make the playoffs this year and with the situation being what is I can accept that because new owner, new regime. It's going to take a while to get things in place and I've said before I just need to know people are trying to be satisfied. The futility has been constant the last 8-10 years but the new guys get enough rope to hang themselves. Clean slate now...we wait.
     
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  12. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Life will go on. I don’t have any expectations for this year. Joe seems to want everyone to be patient so it might take a couple of years until he figures it out.

    MLS is very different now. With so many teams, it will be difficult to come from behind to make the playoffs based on summer signings. If they are in a playoff position when those summer signings arrive, then I will expect a playoff push. Otherwise, I just hope that there is no wooden spoon coming Chicago’s way.
     
  13. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We have sort gone without a team for 10 years.

    We were hoping this would be our "new" year, with the new owner and move.

    Too bad it has not been, other than the hideous logo.
     
  14. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Joe wanting a couple of years to figure it out is why it may be a problem hiring a GM without MLS experience.

    Oh, and retaining Rodriguez, with lots of negative experience
     
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  15. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Not much happens. Look at our roster, we are basically an expansion team. New city, new stadium, new owner, etc. We just had less time to prepare than most expansion teams. If we finish out of the bottom 3-4, I'd call it a win. We need to be nearing the playoffs in 2021 and competing for trophies in 2022. Anything better than that is a bonus in my book.
     
  16. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Joe has already arrived at the same solution Hauptman did, that the only problem with the Chicago Fire was its fans.

    It will go no better for him.
     
  17. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Disagree. I bet Joe sees the problem as lack of fans. Hence, all the ads, badass mural (except for the logo), getting out of bridgeview, etc.
     
  18. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    The cataclysmic SF attendance had better wake some folks up.
     
  19. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    That’s gross. “Take my ball and go home” isn’t exactly the Chicago attitude I’d like to see represented by my club. Determination and fight make much more sense. Quitting while things are tough so you can cheat your way back in with an elevated chance to win? Like I said, gross.

    How about we all make a commitment to fight together instead of giving up?
     
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  20. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Who is "we" exactly? Is the club leadership part of "we"?
     
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  21. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    So many fair weather fans. Shit has to just be about absolutely perfect for some people to come back on board. You wanted Hauptman gone and now he's gone, so hop on board or go ******** off. It's not always going to be smooth sailing.

    I like your attitude @bunge
     
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  22. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    I have season tickets. I'll be there. One of few.

    The depth of the dysfunction in this organization is exceeded only by the depth of its leadership's delusion about that dysfunction.

    The nice thing about MLS is that unlike in the big four there are financial consequences for running your business like garbage. Joe Mansueto believed that there was an ocean of support just waiting for the club in Chicago if they walked away from all their problems in Bridgeview. That notion will be disabused, harshly.
     
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  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I cannot be this pessimistic (even though I should be at this point).

    I expect the Fire to make the playoffs every year. {maybe not in 2015, that team was dire]
    I expect the Fire to go far in the playoffs every year.
    I expect the Fire to progess will into the US Open Cup every year.

    Yes, my expectations have been dashed each and every year for a decade, but I still have the expectations.
    With the plethora of talent around, there are only two reasons a team cannot be competitive:
    1) bad ownership, not putting the resources into the team
    2) bad coaching.
    I hope we have addressed both of those things.
     
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  24. der sting

    der sting Member

    Oct 1, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    One concern is communication; most posts on the team site are weeks old or are about our e-mls presence. Every other team is filled with positive news and updates while we are left with wonder what is happening with the team. The latest news story now is on rounds 3&4 of the draft when the team holds the final pick...
     
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  25. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'm usually too optimistic. Trying to flex my pragmatism muscle. :)
     
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