2020 Quakes -Looking ahead to next season

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  1. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    "The season is over before it's begun." LOL. :)
     
  2. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They’ve said before they were happy with the roster and then made signings shortly after. Stuff is in the works all the time.

    I’m going to be hopeful there’s another meaningful loan that they’re working on as part of the plan. They’ve hit on some good loans that became good signings. It seems unlikely to me they wouldn’t use that strategy again.

    I think finding a centerback that can be a difference maker to the degree of Goodsen or Muma is important. I hope they’re not hanging on for Gallindo and will just wait on whether he is actually developing and make their plans independently of that.

    If they can bring in a true difference maker centerback, get a loanee forward that’s more obviously promising than Fierro or Rios, and actually get some value while sorting out the too many goalies problem, I’ll be pretty happy with the off-season because Espinoza was the most important signing to get done.

    That said, I’m going to worry a little bit about Almeyda’s hit rate on player acquisition if neither Rios or Fierro has a significantly better season now that they’ve had adjustment time.
     
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  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    From the little I saw of Fierro or Rios late in 2019, I wasn’t impressed. They may have needed more time to adapt but that is a tired old line and time is now!

    I for one am sick of waiting until the June/ July transfer window for new players.
     
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  4. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    See you back here in May, and we'll compare notes on how the 2019 Quakes minus a few players have done in 2020...
     
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  5. due time

    due time Member+

    Mar 1, 1999
    Santa Clara
    I wouldn't use May as the gauge though. Comparing standings in May 2019 vs May 2020 will mean a very low bar. I doubt that the 2020 team, even if no one else signs, will start out as horribly as they did last year. This year they won't need 5 games to sort out how to play the Almeyda system.

    But in general, I am in 100% agreement that unless they have some more signings there is little hope that 2020 will be significantly different than the 2019 ending.

    I think that one of the downsides of the Almeyda system is players get worn down over the course of the season. And that showed in the results in the last part of last season. To make up for that you need a deep roster. I think anyone can see that today the Quakes do NOT have a deep roster.
     
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  6. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    We can laugh about this now....:(
     
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  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If the Quakes had won one of those games at the beginning or at the end of the season, the standings will have changed and the Quakes could have been a playoff team. The problem is , we didn’t close out 2020 on a positive note and it’s looking like the league is becoming stronger.

    The two expansion teams will want results and Cincy also can’t rest on their first year disaster. Even though they are in the East conference , their games (wins & losses) will count in the standings so we may be in for an even tougher season this year.
     
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  8. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Nobody can spin an 0-6 close to a season. :D
     
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  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah that was pretty bad....
     
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  10. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Understatement of the year! ;) I would say "soul-crushingly awful".
     
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  11. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Made doubly bad by some horrendously bad calls from the refs. The after the fact apologies from PRO only serve to rub salt in the wounds. How about you tack 3 points onto our place in the standings? You know, in recognition of the fact that you screwed us hard down the stretch?

    And how demoralizing is that for the players? The other teams are tough enough without feeling that you have to play against the refs too.

    Pile of steaming dog turds!!

    Go Quakes!!
    F@#$ MLS!!

    - Mark
     
  12. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Quoted for emphasis.
     
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  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Which year?
     
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  14. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They apologized? I guess I missed that. Which call or call(s) did they apologize for?
     
  15. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Perhaps Mark is construing the admission of error on the Philly PK reversal as an apology.
     
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  16. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. They admitted twice that the non-PK call was incorrect. Sounded very much like a mea culpa to me. But that was hardly the only call where we got screwed at the end of the season. It should never be possible for the fans to think: "The refs had it in for us." But that point of view is not unreasonable, given the number and obviousness of the lousy calls we got late in the season.

    And that sucks, and it's something that MLS and PRO absolutely need to address.

    Go Quakes!!!
    F@#$ PRO!!

    - Mark
     
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  17. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Could be worse - see the hullabaloo over VAR in the EPL this season!
     
  18. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

    I don't know about you, but I wouldn't describe finishing eight out of 12 as "feel-good". Yeah, we didn't 'win' the wooden spoon, but when all was said and done, but the end of the last match I felt like the air had been let out of the balloon. The only 'feel-good' aspect was that Wondo SMASHED Donovan's record.

    I'm so sick of the happy-talk. We have done zero to improve on last year's performance, unless Fierro and Rios show us 10x more than they showed last season. It's very hard to be enthusiastic...
     
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  20. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    As I posted in a separate thread concerning Quakes related media, The Athletic article is white noise -- except for the news buried therein (which I quoted) that the team is targeting a central defender.
     
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  21. asdf2

    asdf2 Member+

    Oct 11, 2004
    San Francisco
    Rios didn't improve us but at the same time he seemed to fit and play OK in his appearances. I'm cautiously optimistic we'll see something better out of him given his track record. This is a guy who played 28 matches for Vasco de Gama in 2018.

    Fierro looked completely useless.
     
  22. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Getting a CB will be super important as we didn't add any goal scoring ability. If we can't score more goals we will need to defend better.
    Also other teams are spending big bucks on goal scorers so we need something to counter that.
    Super critical for Jesse to get this signing right.
     
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  23. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't give a f@#$ about Enguland!!

    Honestly, I don't watch the EPL at all and I don't care to. They having issues with VAR? and Brexit? Excellent!

    Go Quakes!!

    - Mark
     
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  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #549 falvo, Dec 30, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2019
    Its an interesting looking overrated and overhyped league which I'm also not much of a fan of.
     
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  25. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I don't watch it much either - but I have been following threads about this on various refereeing sites.
     
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