So it's #1 seed Stanford vs #2 seed UNC on Sunday. As a UNC fan, I fear that Stanford should pretty soundly beat us, but one can always hope for a better outcome. Watching the game tonight (Friday) it was painfully obvious to me how much we missed Emily Fox. I had hoped that we would play better and harder given her absence, but I did not see that tonight. Fox has been so central for ball control for the Heels this year. I also am very wary of the three back defense against a team like Stanford with the likes of Smith, Mercario, and Haley -each of whom is a tremendous scoring threat and each with different skills. I think that they will kill us with a three back set up. This was the first time we had used a three back since the beginning of the season and it didn't seem to work well. I think that a 4-4-2 (or more specifically a 4-1-3-2 would give UNC a prayer of slowing down the Stanford offense. We shall see what Anson thinks on Sunday! Cheers!
Ahh sadly only one side of the story was seen… Unfortunately no one heard what was said to the Stanford keeper after the 1st goal/UCLA was scored...good old smack talk to keeper directly from the PK shooter herself... So Stanford keeper had given her back a little smack talk after that PK.... Unfortunately that earlier smack talk wasn’t heard on camera -so no one knows in what context and what was said… and unfortunately the UCLA PK shooters father then continued to heckle the Stanford keeper after half time -after the game -behind the goal during the game- shouting awful obscenities. The girls should of been able to leave it all out on the field —smack talk is at all sporting events- happens with the boys/men all the time and no one says a word… games get heated & adrenaline is high. Yes Stanford keeper should’ve stayed calm and kept her mouth shut but at that point UCLA had already been saying stuff- so it looked bad on her part, shows we don’t always see the full story! And sadly the UCLA dad gets involved & makes the situation worse. But it will be old news tomorrow morning. Everybody moves on. UCLA is a great team- they have many weapons , great players- give them lots of respect!
How do you know that Fischel mouthed off to the Stanford keeper after the Bruins goal, if I may ask? If that happened, it would explain the crazed reaction of the Stanford keeper after that PK. I still think she should have been carded by the ref and can't believe he didn't do so--that kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated--unless he heard the earlier mouthing off by Fischel that you say occurred, but I doubt he did. Any parent who heckles an opposing player is an a$$ and should be reprimanded. If I were the UCLA coach and became aware of it, I'd tell him to stuff it--it's bush.
You played 3 back vs UVA in the ACC game. In fact in every game ive seen this year you have at some point.
I was at the game. There seemed to be things said after the UCLA’s goal but I obviously have no idea what. Meyer reacted poorly by taunting after she stopped the penalty. For me, the worst part of all that happened was this dad behind the goal yelling and screaming at Meyer. I didn’t know who’s dad it was then but he should have been kicked off for behaving the way he was
Thank you for clarifying. I agree. I happens quite often tho. Some of the student sections are pretty brutal on players. They get information from social media and just heckle non stop.
Yes I was there...yes I know Stanford team very well and normally don’t respond much but had to since there was a big chunk of information missing and it all looked one-sided to play the PK shooter out as the victim when that is not true... she was dishing it out earlier—-bad idea to get a keeper riled up…they are already on edge! Keeper let her emotions get the best of her and let her have it back. So if you can dish it you better be able to take it… another UCLA girl also threw a ball across the field and yelled at the ref emotionally but didn’t get carded for it and I love that player!! Guys it happens all the time everyone gets emotional in a heated game. And from what I understand yes it was the father of the PK shooter that was heckling keeper the entire rest of the game- in the tunnel -out of the tunnel -after the game & made it a point to seek her out—witnessed by MANY. security had to talk to him. it was quite sad.
there is often a large chunk of information missing in chats here. often, to tell the whole story, you have to reveal who you are. Thats a trade off very few will make. Im not at all surprised that a local derby game like this brought out the worst in a parent. It happens all the time The sad part is no one ever does anything about it.
There's a big difference between students heckling opposing players and parents doing it. For students it is accepted and pretty much expected. A dad doing it? Grow up, man! You're not a student anymore. I watched on TV and it wasn't audible. At that point instill was listening to the game while watching but I ended up watching without volume and turning on music. I find both announcers annoying.
This disgusts me. As a parent of an athlete I can vouch for the adrenaline rush and I have witnessed it first hand many times. It boggles my mind that a parent would seek out a player on another team and go out of their way to berate/heckle. But to take it to another level after the game is out of control. I would, however, be cautious to finger MFs dad unless someone can confirm identity. There are plenty of crazy dads out there that are notorious for this behavior
I would tend to agree but my response is to what you wrote: I've been to a lot of collegiate games, both men and women, and in many different sports. Most student sections are fairly creative in ribbing players and attempting to get under their skin. Some are better at it than others. Student sections are a part of the game and if a player can't compete in that environment, perhaps they should look into competing in an environment that is sterile and with no spectators. A parent carrying on is quite different and a parent that seeks out a player after the game is totally whacked. Don't try to compare the behavior of a whacked parent to the behavior of somewhat normal student behavior.
we disagree. thats cool. I dont condone students or parents crossing the line. Im not comparing actions. The line is pretty clear to most rational people. parents are not excused, but nor are students just because. We all know the difference between "clever" ribbing and hurling insults. Ive heard both from students and parents alike. Some schools are pretty notorious for it.
i just read a comment on social media. Great details on a spirited rivalry! To be clear, UCLA in this context means players on field? Sideline? Fans? Some combination? And this was taunted to Meyer's face, not overheard elsewhere? You have already revealed great deets, I just always want more. Wish I was there asking https://t.co/H6kGYsGgKs— Andrea Canales (@soccercanales) December 7, 2019
So what? Is she that thin skinned? Players get taunted from people in the stands. It happens in all sports. This isn't youth soccer, it's college. You deal with it. If it gets out of hand, bring it to refs attention. But you have to learn to suck it up. And, the first goal she gave up was weak. (I'm a Stanford fan.) But I was very disappointed in her reaction. Celebrate the stop (wasn't a great pk in my opinion, the taker showed where she was going). Rise above the adversity don't play down to it. Sunday's game should be a good one.
I first became aware of blurring the line between clever "ribbing" and cutting insults by observing Duke's "Cameron Crazies" in the 1980s. It appalled me that no one was speaking out about it including Dick Vitale who seemed to enjoy it and promoted the Crazies as the best at it. I have several times experienced developments like this where a behavior gets "normalized" by allowing coarse behavior to continue ("boys will be boys...") until it really goes over the edge. The sad part for me is that amateur soccer has slid into this crap. And again with precious few who will stand up to it. (Presumably because we are so "thin skinned" and told to "get over it... everyone does this".) No, everyone does not!
Some of the dads need to seriously get a life and not embarrass their daughter. I remember being at a UCLA-Stanford regular conference game at Drake stadium a few years back and I was sitting near what was clearly a father shouting at some of the girls and calling them bunch of spoiled whores.
Yeah that just sounds like a taunt that you see in a lot of important games. She really got worked up over that? Has she never been taunted before?