PBP: 11/19 - Cuba v. USMNT in Cayman Islands, Nations League A

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by ArsenalMetro, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Fullerton
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m waiting to post in the post game thread.
     
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  2. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Roldan and Lovitz belong nowhere near this side. Truly remarkable that they consistently get called in.
     
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  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I still rock my hoops shirt.

    It's a brave soul the one who creates such a thread.
     
  4. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    there will be at least one long write up how it actually shows that Berhalter’s system is awesome. it’s like drunken master kung fu - we disorganize our opponent by looking wasted.
     
  5. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Where would CP have played in these two games? Or Weah.
     
  6. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Pulisic at LW instead of Arriola.

    Weah on the bench or at CF.
     
  7. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    Thank God its over. We were terrible actually... Can you imagine us playing Mexico? or even Honduras? GB has GOT TO CUT THE DEAD WOOD and find more real players. My biggest fear is GB just wont do it. He is still calling in Trapp but Im glad he isnt playing. However he is taking up space for future players. Trapp is never going to be a player at this level. Why call him in? Can say the same for others Roldan... Hes terrible too. Lovitz, ... terrible.... Ream... ok against Cuba.....not OK against better teams. Why did GB play Lovitz while Dest rode the bench? Lovitz so valuable that Montreal traded him away for nothing. And finally, GB himself ...... just cant put together a team that can score at will, or even generate shots. against a team like Cuba. Most good college soccer teams could beat Cuba.

    Lets see how we do against Honduras in June. If we cant beat them then our qualifying chances have got to be suspect. GB is NOT THE ONE TO TAKE US THERE, He is going to fail unless he changes and he has shown no signs of being willing to do that
     
  8. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    he’s better than B1 starter morales though.
     
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  9. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Honestly the guy he's keeping out of the lineup is probably Lletget, who does produce more in the 8/10 hybrid role than Roldan.
     
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  10. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    No Zardes or Trapp? Anti-Crew bias confirmed.
     
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  11. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    We still have zero ability to take free kicks and we still play down to the opposition unless they are so bad that they almost defeat themselves, like Cuba and a good portion of the rest of CONCACAF.

    I do not think that the US players practice things like free kicks correctly. "Good players practice until they get it right once or twice. Great players practice until they never get it wrong."

    We have a number of good or near good players but we have no great players and none that look to become great because they do not want it enough. They are lazy mentally and it shows in their play and practice.
     
  12. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    That’s it!!! What a great tactician!!!
    Berhalter rules!!!
     
  13. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Don't drink and type.
     
  14. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Was there a game tonight?
     
  15. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Cannon getting his work permit is Yuge! He has come from cut from Gold cup roster to a high noon showdown with Yedlin for the RB spot.
     
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  16. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    We are always good for fun.
     
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  17. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hope you all really savored that canada win, cause every correction that was made to rectify that ridiculous loss was immediately undone tonight. to the surprise of absolutely no one.

    look, we beat cuba!

    i think after maybe 2 points from the first four hex matches berhalter will head fake toward change again, maybe give us one last gasp, but this game didnt even need to happen. all i take from tonight, from seeing the starting 11 tonight, is that managing to beat canada- CANADA!- at home is going to be the high point of berhalters tenure.

    its infuriating to know that we are going to try (and its pick em at best if we will be able) to qualify with bradley, lovitz, christian roldan as an attacking mid. youre kidding yourself if you think we arent. and im kidding myself that we can even get that playoff spot playing with berhalters guys, playing the way berhalter wants to play.

    he wants bradley, lovitz, etc. he wants to probe endlessly, relying solely on opponents ineptitude for scoring chances. zero pressure defensively, zero drive to attack.

    we all think we (however much you individually did) saw progress vs canada- that was the outlier. theres no progress coming from berhalter, just steady as she goes, abject mediocrity.
     
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  18. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    I just basically came to the realization that soccer is dead to the US for the next 12 years. Forget it. It is finished. When people at the top and bottom all believe the same lie you are done. The best American football player of the last 20 years was trained by his parents and removed to Europe at 16. No product from the US system is even 20% as effective. Those are facts. You don’t change that overnight especially in this climate of 25 minutes of progress and bullshit PowerPoint systems v
     
  19. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This felt like more Berhalter saying to some of the players "prove to me you belong on this team" than a game to learn anything else from. Think of the last time we played an away game on a crappy field, we lost 2-1 and missed out on the world cup. It was a result, that's what matters. He got a few more players eligible for work permits, and kept a clean sheet. Also no major injuries.
     
  20. Sam Miami

    Sam Miami Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 11, 2019
    What was the announced crowd? Maybe 200? Pitch was dreadful. How can this be in 2019?
     
  21. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't watch any of the games this year, but we just beat Canada and Cuba so you haters should all STFU.
     
  22. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    some of us have slightly higher bars than canada and cuba.
     
  23. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Backup RB spot...
     
  24. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    On the FS1 broadcast they said that for the match vs Canada it was 420 :cool:
     
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  25. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Perhaps the best way to look at this result is to see who played near their ceiling:

    - Morris
    - Zardes
    - Yueill

    Any other takes? The biggest concern in the ability to make our difference makers play at a high level. I thought Brooks was pretty good but not near his ceiling and McKennie and Morales were well below their ceiling.
     
  26. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    I'm not sure that's warranted given that most of the rest of our best young players came up through MLS academies and in many cases played in MLS at the senior level before moving to Europe. Pulisic is a generational talent but would still be our best player (albeit not nearly as good as he is) if he'd come up through the Union academy and moved to Germany at age 19. We have more 18-25 talent (both quality and quantity) than we've ever had and the lost generation would be starting to age out at this point. The talent is there, the problem is that we continue to call in MLS journeymen like Lovitz and Trapp.
     

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