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  1. feyenoordsoccerfan

    feyenoordsoccerfan Member+

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    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1726 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 11, 2019
    Karsdorp and Dumfries are as fast as he is and I thought the way Karsdorp Messi'ed himself through the Oporto defense was pretty amazing.
     
  2. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #1727 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 11, 2019
    It's like Quale against that other vice president candidate ( I've known Kenney, you're not a Kennedy) I can say: "I've seen Carlos and Marcello....he's not a Carlos or Marcello.
     
  3. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    Jan 5, 2006
    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1728 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 12, 2019
    The resilience of the Orange explained, where does it come from?
    https://www.ad.nl/nederlands-voetbal/de-veerkracht-van-oranje-verklaard~aadd4154/
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    PREMIUM
    Het Nederlands elftal voor aanvang van de wedstrijd tegen Noord-Ierland. © Pim Ras Fotografie
    De veerkracht van Oranje verklaard

    Weer gebeurde donderdagavond waar dit Nederlands elftal stilaan patent op heeft: na een achterstand vecht het team terug en wint alsnog. Waar komt dat vandaan?
     
  4. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1729 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 12, 2019
    "Voor rust een zwak Oranje en een 1-0 achterstand tegen Slowakije, daarna Ruud Vormer erbij als invaller en het ging draaien. Vormer is geen topper, maar zijn agressiviteit hielp die avond het elftal en maakte ook specifiek de middenvelder naast hem, Davy Pröpper, beter.

    Zo denkt Koeman vaker in koppeltjes die elkaar kunnen aanvullen en versterken. En: alle wissels weten bij hem ook dát ze kunnen invallen, ieder heeft duidelijkheid over zijn rol."

    "Before the break a weak Orange and 1-0 trailing against Slovakia, then in comes Ruud Vormer as a substitute and it began to spin. Vormer is not a top player, but his aggressiveness helped the team that evening and also specifically made the midfielder next to him, Davy Pröpper, better.

    That's the way Koeman thinks, more often in couples who can complement and reinforce each other. And: all (potential) subs also know with him that they can come in, everyone has clarity about his role    ."
     
  5. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
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    Aug 9, 2019
    #1730 wynaldaisagod, Oct 12, 2019
    Dest is way quicker than Dumfries. Straight line speed is probably close. Dumfries is much better physically. I thought Karsdrop was going to be world class... still just 24 and has plenty of time to resurrect career.
     
  6. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1731 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 12, 2019
    I created three threads to specifically comment on players regarding the line they play in, defense/midfield/attack, so it becomes more easy to find things back.
     
  7. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #1732 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 14, 2019
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    #1733 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 16, 2019
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  9. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #1734 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 17, 2019
  10. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #1735 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 20, 2019
  11. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #1736 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 20, 2019
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  12. BaritoPutra

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    #1737 BaritoPutra, Oct 20, 2019
  13. feyenoordsoccerfan

    feyenoordsoccerfan Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1738 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 20, 2019
    Anyway, Barca is soon a memory as it will be cut from LaLiga with the separation wave.
    He has a clause that if either Overmars or van der Sar moves, he's free to sign a contract with another party. fake news :D
     
  14. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #1739 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 20, 2019
    I dont like these clauses either, but I dont think KNVB wouldve been able to sign him without that clause.

    Koeman BTW has pulled this stunt before when he ditched PSV midseason for Valencia in 2007
     
  15. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    #1740 Jpows, Oct 20, 2019
    This would be extremely detrimental for both Barcelona and La Liga. The latter would just be another League 1 where one team overwhelmingly dominates the league year in year out with some outliers here and there, maybe.
     
  16. feyenoordsoccerfan

    feyenoordsoccerfan Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1741 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 20, 2019
    Koeman raus:D
     
  17. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #1742 Orange14, Oct 20, 2019
    And that one worked out really well!!!
     
  18. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    Jan 5, 2006
    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1743 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 21, 2019
    Ballon d"Or:
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  19. Orange14

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    #1744 Orange14, Oct 22, 2019
    ^^ I already noted over on the Ajax thread that FOUR of the players nominated came from last season's Ajax team. I think only ManCity and Liverpool had as many or more players on the list. If we are looking at the player who did the most for his team, Dusan Tadic is perhaps most deserving. I don't think he missed a single match and his move to a false 9 was key to Ajax march to the semifinals of the CL and 30 seconds from the finals.
     
  20. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #1745 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 26, 2019
  21. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #1746 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 28, 2019
  22. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #1747 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 30, 2019
    NI and Slovenia matches:

    Voorselectie Nederlands elftal
    Doel: Marco Bizot (AZ), Jasper Cillessen (Valencia), Kenneth Vermeer (Feyenoord) en Jeroen Zoet (PSV).

    Verdediging: Patrick van Aanholt (Crystal Palace), Nathan Aké (AFC Bournemouth), Daley Blind (Ajax), Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool), Denzel Dumfries (PSV), Hans Hateboer (Atalanta Bergamo), Matthijs de Ligt (Juventus), Joël Veltman (Ajax), en Stefan de Vrij (Internazionale).

    Middenveld: Donny van de Beek (Ajax), Frenkie de Jong (Barcelona), Davy Pröpper (Brighton & Hove Albion), Marten de Roon (Atalanta Bergamo), Kevin Strootman (Olympique Marseille), Tonny Vilhena (Krasnodar) en Georginio Wijnaldum (Liverpool).

    Aanval: Ryan Babel (Galatasaray), Steven Berghuis (Feyenoord), Memphis Depay (Olympique Lyon), Luuk de Jong (Sevilla), Donyell Malen (PSV), Quincy Promes (Ajax), Calving Stengs (AZ) en Wout Weghorst (VfL Wolfsburg).
     
  23. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    #1748 nurvin, Oct 30, 2019
    Happy to see Stengs and Weghorst, i only hope they won' be cut.

    Koopmeiners is very underrated, he should be in the squad instead of Vilhena.
     
  24. DutchFanatic

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    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Dec 23, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #1749 DutchFanatic, Oct 30, 2019
    Awesome for Stengs and Westhorst! Both fairly undeniable at this point... although I have a feeling Westhorst will still be cut.

    Koopmeiers definitely deserves a spot over Vilhena and Strootman. I'd like to see Wijndal as well, although in fairness PvA is doing pretty well and hasn't gotten any time either. But I do feel like Wijndal is much more defensively solid.
     
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  25. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #1750 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 31, 2019
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