The Trump Presidency Nein: Leistung, Korruption und Lugen

I know that a lot of the people that didn’t vote for Trump is among the losers, but at the same time there’s some poetic justice in this:

Wash Post: Manufacturing employment is down by almost 9,000 in Pennsylvania & 6,800 in Wisconsin over the past year. pic.twitter.com/QzUzuGAVqy

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) October 30, 2019

 

People always think that Presidents can control what they can't. Stanger and Timon complain about Presidencies being a personality cult, and I agree with them. I just disagree on the main cause. It's not the media treatment, it's the public's belief in astrology, alchemy, and THE POWER OF THE ONE TRUE LEADER to change global economic trends.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

 

1. There's some correlation between Trump's policies (tax cuts that fizzled, trade war) and the struggles of manufacturing in some states, but I'd agree with you that the demise of carbon jobs is mostly due to bigger trends (natural gas, renewables, less labor intensive extraction).

2. The poetic justice I refer to, is that (at least some of them) voters thought that a NY charlatan with zero real world experience would fix their job woes better than the wonky lady that had years of government experience.

 

Yes, I agree completely. I dont live in the US, so I dont know the intricacies.

But, here in Canada, the governing party has much less influence on the national economy than one might wish to believe.

Because of many levels of government. You've got City, Provincial (like a state) and federal. All have powers of taxation in some form. So, if all 3 aren't rowing in the same direction, federal initiatives are no way near as effective as they could be (both positively and negatively).

I would assume the US is similar.

 

Apparently, Epstein was strangled, and probably not by himself. I'm shocked.

I'll be curious to learn how Hillary got into the prison to strangle him.

 

There is, but I think it's best to avoid the subject altogether. Attacking Trump for destroying jobs is the flip side of praising him for creating jobs. And frankly, the latter is all that he has to run on. "OK he's a jackass but he's good for the economy so I guess I'll vote for him."

No credit, no blame. Let's talk about what he actually does, which is a whole lot of failure.

 

Yes, it's similar. Plus governments don't much affect economies either, not reliably so. I posted in the LIbertarian thread how this year's Nobel Prize in Economics was given to researchers who showed that governments fool themselves into thinking that their tax policies accomplish the goals that they intend. Those tax policies very much do not.

 

Where do you get that my idea of a "main cause" is different from what you've stated here? I mean, technically "why not both?" is different, but I've never disagreed with your source. Hell, it has been a criticism of my own ********ing neighbors for years (any time Dennis Kucinich came up in a discussion of economics, for example) on these very forums.

 

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

 

Not that I'm picking on you, but man, should there be a LOT more of that going on.

Thanks, though.

 

I was a big fan of Dr. Baden. His show "Autopsy" on HBO was terrific.

I have a difficult time trusting Dr. Baden, even since he switched to defense side with OJ Simpson.
To me, he sold out his integrity at that point.

Now, he is "forensic expert" for Fox News, which does not help his credibility to me.

All of that being said, it will be interesting to see how this develops.

Hillary dressed up as a 15 year old girl and snuck in when Epstein "ordered delivery," so to speak.

 

@ceezmad , ask @stanger about this one!!!

 

I can'r rep this. It's times like this where I wish BS would have 'Rep' and 'WTF!'

 

If you want to go down a lefty rabbit hole, read this exploration of the idea that Trump wanted his Game 5 appearance to coincide with the death of al Baghdadi.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/prime/could-it-be-this-absurd

 

Paywall...synopsis?

 

Pan pizza is definitely popular in the Midwest. Detroit has some decent takes in it. The difference between deep dish and pan isn’t volume, it’s mass/density. Deep dish is slightly less dense than a brick. And Chicagoans don’t really do deep dish or pan. Two acceptable reasons for Deep Dish IMO: 1) out of towners wanna try it 2) it’s hearty on a cold, bone chilling rainy day.

 

It was scheduled for Game 5 when the series was 2-0. What if there was no Game 5?

Josh employs what he calls Trump's Razor...that the most absurd theory that fits the facts is generally true.

 

You are not in the "neighborhoods" enough, but I would say 9 to 1 is about the correct ratio.
I guess it depends on the restaurant, though.
Giordano's has a popular deep dish.
Carmen's (Evanston and Roger's Park) was awesome. Whole black olives (makes them easier to remove), copious amounts of good quality cheese, and a terrific crust. You did need to take blood pressure pills, due to the sodium content.
Poretta's on the NW side has the best pizza in Chicago (thin or deep dish, can't vouch for the tourist casserole).

 

Mulvaney was kept in the dark about the Baghdadi operation. Does this mean he needs to keep an eye out on Greyhounds and Metrobuses?