Members of ECS hospitalized following match with DCU

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  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This should start page 2 (if you're listing by 25 posts as I am) and apparently already needs to be said again.
     
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  2. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Is the ability to change the number of posts/page back somewhere?
     
  3. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Incidents like this make me think alcohol should be banned at stadiums.
     
  4. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having attended matches in the UK where you can't drink beer within view of the pitch ... please no. That would punish the vast majority who aren't complete idiots and thugs.

    Also, with regard to similar incidents at NFL games, I believe there were much worse incidents at MLB games (Giants/Dodgers?) in the recent past. This doesn't excuse the apparent behavior of these idiots though.
     
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  5. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It doesn't matter. People will drink bfore and after a game. And stupid violent people will still be violent stupid people.

    We can't drink inside the stadium here in Colombia, but 2 weeks ago some bastards started fighting with machetes before a game. The most stupid thing about this: Those who were fighting were from the same team. It is not less worrying. it is just more stupid.
     
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  6. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    https://dcist.com/story/19/09/23/po...awl-among-fans-after-sundays-d-c-united-game/

    And Barra Brava statement:
    “First and foremost our thoughts are with the Sounders Fan(s) who were attacked last night. We hope they have a speedy recovery. Immediately, after learning of the incident via twitter we contacted the DC United Front Office to express our disgust and offer any assistance we can to bring those responsible for justice. Violence is not tolerated in the Barra Brava and has no place in the sport we all love.

    We have no information as to who is responsible. I wish that we did so that the perpetrators can be held accountable.” The statement goes on to say that the group is asking for anyone with information or footage of the incident to get in touch so they can assist in finding the culprits. Contrary to social media reports we have no knowledge about any previous incidents and none has been ever brought to our attention by the either the Front Office or anyone else. Barra Brava has always rejected violence and our track record over many years backs this up.”

    And Barra Brava has a history of hosting fans of Latin American teams in the past.
     
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  7. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. I can’t think of any worse experience I could ever go through than being forced to be sober for 2 1/2 hours.
     
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  8. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
    The Eagles were famous for their jail in the actual Veterans stadium complete with its very own court and judge for quick sentencing.

    The jail ended in 2003 when they opened Lincoln Financial Field.

    I have a feeling that this is going to be dealt with very thoroughly if this in any way involves supporters club members.

    Sometimes these things take place because everybody assumes that nobody would be that much of an idiot. Once people prove you wrong - like last night - then the onus is on you to do something about it or you become a part of it and nobody wants to be associated with these punks - either now or in the future.
     
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watching the current Nats team while being sober for 2 1/2 hours?
     
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  10. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Soccer and sobriety don't mix. :)
     
  11. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alright, alright... circle gets the square.
     
  12. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Personally, I like being treated like an adult and having an adult beverage while watching soccer. Collective punishment of all fans for the actions of a couple of j@ckasses is just dumb.
     
  13. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not how society works, though.

    I think you should be allowed to drive your car as fast as your skill set allows. But we can't, because some people can't handle going faster than 65.

    I mean, I'm not holding my breath. It's never going to happen anyway. Too much money involved, and like you said, most people CAN handle it.

    I don't drink at games, but it's because of the cost; it's certainly not for any moral reasons or because I can't handle it. Like you, I consider myself to be a responsible grown-up. But when I go to a game, it's because the place I'm going to is supplying an activity I enjoy watching, which provides me with fun. If not being able to drink alcohol while attending something I already get that much enjoyment out of is such a detriment to my happiness, maybe I'm not as grown-up as I like to think.
     
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  14. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    No one will buy you a beer? I find that difficult to believe.
     
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  15. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe in getting value for your money. I don't believe a beer is worth $9. And I'm not going to ask someone else to spend that money on me, because it's not worth it for them either.

    Also, I have no friends. :)
     
  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nine dollars is value, relatively speaking. Draft beers are $14.50 at Avaya's Longest Outdoor Bar in North America (LOBINA).

    I will buy you a Mapre beer when I'm in Columbus for the Quakes game next year, amigo. :)
     
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  17. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking forward to it. (beer cans clink)
     
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  18. Quinn 33

    Quinn 33 Member+

    Apr 25, 2003
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This straight up doesn't work by the way.

    In places where these kinds of policies are put in place, people either just get absolutely shitfaced before match to the point it doesn't matter, or they just sneak booze in anyway. I have seen (and participated) in both first-hand.

    It's also largely moot since this reportedly occurred outside the stadium. Increased security/police presence and an actual protocol for escorting away fans to and from the ground are what prevents this stuff.
     
  19. Quinn 33

    Quinn 33 Member+

    Apr 25, 2003
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #44 Quinn 33, Sep 24, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2019
    Another uncomfortable reality is that a lot of people in the US/Canada are pretty naive when it comes to wearing away colors.

    Yes, people are significantly more friendly and tolerant here compared to a lot of places in the world when it comes to this...but that doesn't mean you should check your situational awareness at the door. If you're in an unfamiliar place and you're not with a large group, there is a chance you're gonna be a target.

    I'm not necessarily saying that's what caused this specific situation, or that it excuses people getting attacked. However, the best defense is always to take preventative measures so that you can either avoid trouble, or escape it quickly if it turns up.
     
  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I almost quit my job when they tried.
     
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  21. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I seem to manage... ;)
     
  22. fairfax4dc

    fairfax4dc Member+

    Dec 5, 2008
    Fairfax, Va
    Obviously something bad happened at Audi the other night. Just as obviously, to those of us who regularly attend games there, is that this was an extremely rare event at a DCU match. I attended and was pleased to see a fairly large Sounders contingent. Should probably be a different thread but I would love to hear what Sounders supporters who attended thought of the experience in our little urban bandbox stadium versus their large stadium/large attendance atmosphere.
     
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  23. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    Outside of the incident, everything I have read was praise for the home fans. Said everyone was very welcoming etc.

    Can't recall any comments on the stadium and in game atmosphere etc.
     
  24. Mr. Bandwagon

    Mr. Bandwagon Member

    Terremotos
    May 24, 2001
    the Barbary Coast
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL. Insert obligatory "other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?" reference.
     
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  25. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have gone to games by myself in foreign countries where I could not speak the language more times than I can count. Perhaps the cheapest insurance policy you can buy is to get a cheap knock-off jersey of the home team from a street vendor before the game. I've done this many times and even though my Glatasaray jersey cost me 1.5 million, it wasn't dollars, but Turkish Lira, which made it about $12.
     

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