How many here subscribe to Flo to watch DC United?

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by golazo_usa, Mar 27, 2019.

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Did you subscribe to FloFC to watch DC United?

  1. Yes

    19.3%
  2. No

    80.7%
  1. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    I didn’t steal until Flo
     
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  2. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In that case you may just want to go the vpn/espn+ route to be above board (ish).
     
  3. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No $13 million is the reason they turn to Flo.
     
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  4. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. If the OTA/ad supported model actually attracted eyeballs (and if the team hasn’t sucked for a decade) perhaps there would not be a need to take the cash.

    James
     
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  5. DC Braveheart

    DC Braveheart Member

    D.C. United
    Scotland
    Jan 2, 2001
    Oak Hill, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
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  6. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is less money for Flo's ever shrinking return on investment. They can't have made their subscriber targets certainly not their break even numbers. So one less broadcast means fewer advertiser dollars for them. Thus a nail in their coffin.
     
  8. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wayne Rooney leaving was the nail in the coffin.

    One game makes no difference in he grand scheme of things.
     
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  9. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
  10. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No Flo will go bankrupt and fail.
     
  11. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    This was a decision by MLS/HQ and FoxSports to maximize viewers and advertising dollars. If these two teams were battling it out for last place the game would stay on Flo
     
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  12. DC Braveheart

    DC Braveheart Member

    D.C. United
    Scotland
    Jan 2, 2001
    Oak Hill, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Which says a lot about what they think of Flo's reach.
     
  13. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    I'm pretty sure Flo's reach is in the triple digits.
     
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  14. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    please explain.
     
  15. Section 107

    Section 107 Member+

    DCU
    United States
    Jul 18, 2018
    hundreds have subscribed specifically for DCU streams is the allegation....

    (doesn't)Flo is way more than DCU - this deal will not make or break them.

    If they can turn it into a deal with many other MLS teams or even the league then it's a big deal. However, NY already has plans in the works for league-wide streaming and IIRC the flo deal was announced just before NY ordered teams not to enter into any new deals in preparation for a league-wide deal.
     
  16. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Yes, exactly. By every metric the Flo deal has been absolutely catastrophic for all parties. Flo is taking a bath, the team is utterly irrelevant in the local market (only one season after being a sensation), and even the fans that have always loved the team can't watch (except for the hundreds who gave Flo money, and even then Flo can't reliably seem to keep a stream up.)

    They will teach this deal as a lesson in sports business classes for decades.

    There is almost zero chance that the league switches to Flo as a streaming partner after witnessing DC United's cratered relevance after the deal, IMHO.
     
  17. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DC United is back to irrelevance because the team under-performed on the pitch and did not meet expectations. We've had enough games on National TV to remain relevant but we've either gotten our butts kicked or Benny Balled a win out which isn't great for viewership.

    I'm also not sure that DC United as a name was all that relevant last year to begin with but Wayne Rooney & later Acosta were the relevant ones. Casual fans aren't tuning in to watch a DC United team that has Lucho on the bench and Rooney back home setting up his Derby deal. It is impossible to measure but if the club was on NBC Sports DC, ESPN + or NC8 that more people would care.

    DC United fandom is a niche environment and the club is managing to even drive off those folks.
     
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  19. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Casual fans couldn't possibly care less about the style of play. Come to think of it, most hardcore fans don't either, except for a couple of people on Bigsoccer. Fans want to watch the team win; that's it.

    Unfortunately, fans can't WATCH this team, regardless of style.
     
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  20. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Style absolutely matters since people want to be entertained.

    Do you really think Atlanta United would draw 53k a game if they weren't playing an attractive brand of soccer? Do you really believe that their attendance would be the same if they were grinding out 1-0 games to the cup?

    Everyone wants a winner but people are going to choose a winner that attacks and scores goals over a team who parks the bus for 80 minute (atleast in the states). Casual fans (of the game not DC united) don't understand enough about the game to appreciate a good bunker but even babies understand scoring goals.
     
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  21. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    If you're at the bottom of the table I don't care how many games you lost 4-3, you are still going to have crummy attendance.
     
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  22. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    You're completely wrong, of course. I've never met a person who would prefer to see their team lose 4-3 rather than win 1-0 (although I've seen a few silly people type it on soccer message boards.)

    At any rate, it's academic since the casual fan can't see the team lose 5-4 or win 1-0 because they're behind a $100 paywall on a platform that nobody's ever heard of.
     
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  23. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where did I say anyone would rather watch a team lose 4-3 rather than win 1-0
    ? The example I laid out clearly stated winning with wide margin vs winning with a small margin.
     
  24. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course, nobody is stating that people will go to see a team lose 4-3. My post stated that winning 'with style' would draw more views than winning without.
     
  25. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    and winning without style will draw more views than losing with style.
     
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