Tuesday 27 Aug 2019

Everyone should read this. DC ownership is terrible. The stadium is already degrading after 1 year of use, lacrosse and XFL events are going to be commonplace, things like a roof that was in every version of the sketches still haven't happened, and that's before you get to things like the moron coach and Flo Sports.

 

So the design of the stadium was down graded (except capacity 26,500 to 30,000) and it's going to cost $70 million dollars more.

 

The "canopy" as it is now is what was in the final documents.

 

And they say that the reason for this is the cost of "design changes", but I'm pretty sure that you could start over from a blank piece of paper.and the architects bill wouldn't be half.that.

 

There's been no official announcement but people connected to the Denver soccer community are saying that former Rapids, Dynamo, and Galaxy midfielder Colin Clark passed away last night. Most recently he was coaching for Colorado Rush.

 

A pretty decent player forever marred by that one inexplicable incident when, in the SEVENTH MINUTE of a game a ballboy didn't give him the ball quickly enough to suit him and he called the kid what the league described as a "homophobic slur" (ie. "f******g f****t"), which was picked up by broadcast microphones.

His reputation never fully recovered. You just can't walk something like that back.

 

Maybe not the time to bring that up?

 

I guess this makes it official

The Colorado Rapids organization mourns the loss of former player and Colorado native Colin Clark. We would like to express our deepest sympathies to Colin's friends and family. pic.twitter.com/Q2Clzf3wcU

— Colorado Rapids (@ColoradoRapids) August 27, 2019

 

Ah, the internet . . . doesn't matter if it's fitting or right, as long as he was the first to say it . . . in his mind, he wins.

 

Why?

I always hear that we aren’t supposed to criticize dead people? But we often glorify people when they are dead, Why should we hold back on assuring a proper accounting of the person’s life, worst and all?

Hitler is dead, are we allowed to speak negatively of him? What about George Wallace? Nixon? What about Lenin or Stalin? What about Charles Manson?

I have been a victim of a homophobic attack. Should I only be allowed to talk about what they did to me when they are alive?

People have a right to say their true feelings about a person when that person is dead. It is always fitting to talk about the bad things someone did after they are dead, Death shouldn’t be an image rehabilitation opportunity.

If you don’t want anyone speaking ill of you after you die, make sure you outlive all the people you treated like trash.

 

Such an incredible person. Played with him when he was breaking through the league.
Saw him coaching years back & he was a great mentor to the young players.
This is devastating & so tragic with him & Junior. My ❤️ to family, friends & fans of both these great guys. https://t.co/dy2bFccoJY

— Joe Cannon (@JoeCannonGK1) August 27, 2019

 

Because the body may literally not be cold yet?

I mean I get it, we should be honest about history, but there's a level of tact that should go along with it on first report of the news of his passing.

 

So? Did the gay bashers who smashed my head into a brick wall consider that my body was still warm? No.

Colin Clark did not respect that boy’s living person enough to refrain from hurling homophobic abuse at him.

Again, if you don’t wish anyone to speak ill of you when you die, make sure you outlive the people you treated like garbage.

 

And you've never, once in your life, treated anyone like garbage? Assuming you have, you haven't changed since that moment and grown?

Yes, what Clark said was unforgivable. It was also one incident seven years ago. Apparently that overshadows all 35 years of his life and deserves to be the first thing mentioned when the news was posted on this thread?

 

Well, ******** you before you die.

 

Didn’t you know you have to be perfect at all times or you are a piece of shit for the rest of time?

No forgiveness is allowed.

You made a mistake, screw you! Burn in hell asshole.

People these days have no dam sense.

 

When you are a teenager 35 seems old. Now it seems like 35 is still a kid and it is way too young to die. Between Clark and Agogo, it has been a a rough spell for Rapids alumni and my deepest sympathies go out to their families and friends. RIP.

 

I hope you never made a mistake in your life. Otherwise I'd encourage everyone to pile shit on your grave.

 

I looked for the incident report on the web:

. .. Clark is seen and heard on video picking up the ball, directing his comments toward the ball boy, and then throwing the ball back into play.

“I am sorry about what happened during the Seattle match,” Clark said in a statement. “I have personally apologized to the ball boy, and I want to take this chance to say I’m sorry to everyone that I’ve offended. I intend to never use those words again in any context. There is no excuse for them. What I said does not properly represent who I am or what I believe. I made a mistake that I truly regret. I accept the punishment that has been handed down by MLS, and I want to learn from this incident and move forward.”

. . .

"I'd like to offer a sincere apology to everyone who watched the game, especially the ball boy for whom I used awful language towards," Clark posted on his Twitter account at 3 am ET on Saturday morning.

"I didn't mean to disrespect anyone and am sorry for letting my emotions get the best of me," Clark wrote in his next post. "It's not who I am and it won't happen again." . . .

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2012/03/28/clark-suspended-three-games-fined-seattle-incident

Clark apologized for what he said. Served his time. May he rest in peace.

 

Sure, everybody has been an asshole from time to time, and I fully expect that when I die, anyone I have not made proper amends to will speak of me as an asshole who treated them like garbage. Because you can’t expect people to say nice things about you when you’ve mistreated them even after you died,

 

A whole lot of starwman BS. No one has argued any of this.

 

No. It wasn’t a comparison. You are blowing that out-of-proportion. They are cases-in-point of clear examples of why saying things like “we can’t speak Ill-of-the dead” is a stupid “rule.”

We learn from clear examples, and then we use reason to assess less strong cases as we go down the line.

Every freshman ethics course usually starts with a question like “is it always wrong to lie?” And as every freshman raises his hand to show his piety and say “of course it is always wrong to lie.”

Then, the ethics instructor responds with an historical example that shows such as blanket rule may not be ethically and morally the right thing. And they usually give an example from the holocaust saying something like “what if you lived in Nazi Germany, and you knew that your neighbor was hiding Jews in his basement, is it right to tell the truth now?”

This question isn’t asked because the instructor is comparing all circumstances of where a lie might be more ethical than the truth to the Holocaust. It’s used to get you to see hard fast rules that don’t take in consideration things like context, for example.

Of course this guy wasn’t like Hitler. But as the Hitler example shows some hard and fast rule about not speaking ill of the dead is not always a good rule — if ever.

I did great. You are doing terrible.

 

I didn't ask for his personal experience that isn't related to a stupid thing that poor diseased guy said. We all had plenty shitty stuff happened to us and still trying to be civil despite of that.