Rumor: Yea or Ney-mar - The 2019-20 Transfer thread

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  1. Sarcasm Bot

    Sarcasm Bot Member+

    Nov 4, 2014
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    Can has never been better than than Rakitic a day in his life.
     
  2. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    If you’d seen loads of Liverpool’s games ... and Rakitic’s you’d know that isn’t true ..
    At this moment in time Can is approaching his peak whereas Raki’s form is in free-fall
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    So true. Maybe in the future though..
     
  4. KluivertsBoots

    Jun 16, 2009
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mandzukic linked to Barca today, along with Can, by El Mundo Deportivo as part of the Juve-PSG-Barca triangle negotiation. We are officially off the rails with this in the media. Mandzukic would eat Valverde alive.

    What is clear to me is the PSG will not do business with Barcelona as long as they have other interested parties, and Neymar does not issue a Barca or nothing ultimatum. He has stated a preference for Barcelona, but his entourage are not indicating it's the only preference. If Madrid and Juve are involved, no way PSG agrees to anything Barcelona propose.

    Leverage is key in any negotiation, and the only thing Barcelona can rely on is Neymar choosing Barcelona or nothing. Barcelona certainly does not have the money to do it outright cash. PSG will not do any favors by allowing a one or two year loan, even with an obligatory future fee. The Neymar controversy is torpedoing Tuchel's plans as he has designed everything they do around Neymar and Mbappe. It has also unsettled Barcelona with players like Rakitic, Semedo and Dembele constantly rumored to be in swap discussions. Barcelona and PSG could both easily have new managers inside of two months from now.

    Juve has entered as the calm third party with players they want to offload, and that's the only reason this has been able to continue. Without Juve entering the fray, it's clear this would have zero chance with only PSG and Barca talking to each other.
     
  5. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    It’s come to something when we NEED players like Mandzukic though .. and we really do now
     
  6. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    I don't really get the "Yeamar" argument. He is injury prone and we have enough forward talent to pay an exorbitant amount for him. In fact it's better we keep our assets like Griezmann, Dembele, and Coutinho (good he's on loan!) for next year and package them for Mbappe if the PSG locker room implodes further. Maybe that's the move the Barca board has been planning all along and that's why we stocked up on so many French players. We have a lot of Frenchies and that's good for a deal with PSG but we shouldn't be throwing it at Neymar.
     
  7. Forzabarca

    Forzabarca Guest

    Ending Pique plan B has been needed for ages.
     
  8. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Plan is probably based on Suarez being at the end of the line possibly next season. Messi at most 2 more seasons ? Neymar and Griezmann covers the team for now and mid-term. Also seeing Messi close to the end and wanting a CL badly, a healthy Neymar is a good bet. Coutinho I don't see him coming back and Dembele can't be counted on. There is probably also a fear that Neymar goes to Madrid. Neymar hasn't really shown a decline when healthy. Injury is definitely a risk but you can't predict the future.
     
  9. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    Suarez is already at the end of the line but Messi, Griezmann, and an aging Suarez is still a good enough frontline. We didn't not win the CL the last several seasons because our attacking players aren't good enough. I think it's better to keep assets for the future, try to develop Arthur and De Jong and pull the trigger if another great young player becomes available ala Jaden Sancho or of course Mbappe. Neymar after 2 consecutive season-ending injuries is not a big risk... it's a huge rish. It's foolish to give cash and assets in the realm of 200 million for him. Two seasons ago he was worth that kind of money but right now there is a strong possibility he won't even have a career. Teams aren't exactly fighting for him and rightfully so or he would have been transferred already.
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Doubt it. Player swaps are so difficult to implement in practice, so wouldn't make sense to plan for one. Doubt Griezmann would want to go anywhere near PSG, for instance.
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not sure if legit. Even if so, doesn't mean it's a done deal. Just like championship t-shirts, they pre-plan this shit and if it doesn't happen, it doesn't see the light of day.

    1162063077006872577 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  12. Marcio Freitas

    Vasco da Gama
    Brazil
    Jul 23, 2019
    Brasil
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Whether it is true or not I do not know, but these types of videos I like, it was very good!

    EDIT 1:

    The video is from August 15
     
  13. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  14. Marcio Freitas

    Vasco da Gama
    Brazil
    Jul 23, 2019
    Brasil
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He said in a tweet on August 2th that Coutinho would come out and Neymar would come, interesting.
     
  15. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    David Valdearenas who really been sticking his neck out there everyday changed his tune though ... now he is asking for Neymar to pronounce himself. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  16. Marcio Freitas

    Vasco da Gama
    Brazil
    Jul 23, 2019
    Brasil
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Maybe now it has actually come true, I sincerely want neymar in Barça for two reasons, first because it's an extra class, second because real madrid can't have it.
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If he goes to Madrid now, I'd put him on the same level as Figo as a traitor. Barca will look really stupid if that happens. Even if Madrid is just fukin around with Barca, they will look like they were rejected again.
     
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  18. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Sorry but I fail to see any parallel between the two if he were to go to Madrid.
    While I agree that Barca would look really stupid, Phigo was a beloved figure by all Culés. No one in their wildest dreams thought he'd ever sell his soul to the Devil.
    With Neymar, I feel he burned a lot of bridges when he forced his way to PSG. At the time a few (including myself) fully expected him to eventually end up in Madrid within 3-4 years. Today the fanbase appears split on his potential return.
    Yes, seeing him play for Madrid would sting. And while I would expect a huge, loud negative reaction if he were to play his first Camp Nou Clasico wearing all-white I believe he would receive a just-as-bitter reaction if/when he were to play at Camp Nou wearing PSG colors.
    Phigo is on a basement level all his own and I cannot see any player equaling the status that Loser has secured at FC Barcelona.
     
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  19. Marcio Freitas

    Vasco da Gama
    Brazil
    Jul 23, 2019
    Brasil
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I agree with you in some parts, really fig sold his soul to the devil and maybe it is a different case than neymar in that regard. But it is very difficult to accept that he goes there, I think considering seeing a player who shone in Barca, wearing that evil uniform, besides knowing his quality, I don't know, complicated.
     
  20. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I agree ... but I am saying this now because he is getting everybody's hopes up that he is coming back. Presumably he is not pronouncing himself to leave the Madrid door open as an option. So if he ends up there, I think it will be bad. Maybe not Figo bad, but really bad IMO. I would have rather him just go there without making Barca as an option like R9 did. I understand the clubs need to get to an agreement ... but still ...
     
  21. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Talking of tweets ..

    This is all you need to know about this oh so great Rakitic..

    His infamous tweet that caused an uproar recently.. this was tweeted by a 25 year old Rakitic .. I can’t see he’s changed that much since then apart from getting slower ..
    I give you Ivan Rakitic folks..

    “I respect gays but do not want them in the same dressing room. I would not exit a team because of that, for I respect gays just like I respect dwarves, fat people and black people, but if possible I'd rather not have gay people in my life”
     
  22. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    #372 unclesox, Aug 23, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2019
    He never tweeted that. It was from an interview in 2012.
    We already went over it back in May.
    Still unsure why it took seven years for that quote to resurface.
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/er...season-thread-r.2085415/page-36#post-37771154
     
  23. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  24. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    A tweet or a quote or an interview .. what the hell does it matter .. the guy shouldn’t be at our club if he’s just ‘tolerating’ the black players being in the dressing room ..
     
  25. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    It would suck seeing Neymar playing for the enemy but I don't really wish him back either. Not at the price that PSG seems to be expecting anyways...
     

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