OH? And whom would you replace him with? A mostly unproven 19 year old? or maybe a flavor of the week U20 world cup striker? or a guy in the german second division that cant even get a game? or an average MLS striker that has a literal nose for goal? I know it is trendy to shit on Jozy for a number of reasons even though I have never fully understood most of them. But if you are going to make the argument that Jozy not being good enough based on the GC then boy howdy are doing some mental gymnastics. Am I going to build a team around him? No. And for the same reasons I wouldn't build a team around Brian Ching. But if you are honestly suggesting that Jozy has no place on the team any more, maybe you should consider taking a break from posting on BS for a while and reevaluate some of those views.
[personal attack removed by moderator] OHHH WHAT A MISS! 😱 Jozy Altidore does everything right to find himself with only Ochoa to beat, but he puts his shot wide. #GoldCup2019 pic.twitter.com/mH5gEURMf1— FOX Soccer (@FOXSoccer) July 8, 2019
You do realize I could duplicate that video with any number of world class strikers. Hell I could duplicate it LD and Dempsey. misses like that happen. But since we are making dumb arguments on singular events I give you this: If you look at my posting history I have been quite critical of him in the past. So I am hardly a fan boy as you so ignorantly and ineloquently put it. I, also, like the fact that you went straight to an ad hominem instead of addressing the question or argument at hand. So again, I am not saying we build a team around him. But, who do you replace him with? And who from the objectively subpar options that were on the GC roster do you keep? Our striker pool is currently made up of a few serviceable guys like Jozy, and some mostly untested hype machines like Sargent. Like it or not there is room for both on the roster. And at the moment they should both be on the roster.
Jozy is done at the international level. I can’t believe this is even a rational discussion. In addition to his inability to stay healthy, he is way too inconsistent to be a starter on a team that hopes to advance out of the group stage in the next WC. Now is exactly the time to get players like Sargent, Sabin, Morris, Wood or even Novakovich. Like Bradley and Zardes, Jozy shouldn’t be taking up a spot, and certainly won’t contribute much, in the next qualifying games. If you want him on the team, my characterization of you as a fanboi is accurate regardless of what names you call me. So calm down.
I honestly cant figure out if you are trolling or not. But lets look at this with pure objective facts Bobby wood has scored 10 goals in his last 70 games at the club level. 3 in the last year and a half. Jozy has hit the back of the net a bit more. in fact everyone has... Aarron Long has scored 4 for RBNY in the last year as a comparison. Sargent has 10 games and 2 goals in the last year Morris has 11 games and 4 goals in the last year. He also cant really stay healthy. So I guess by your metric he should be disqualified. Jozy has 12 games and 8 goals this year if you do the full calander year its about 38 and 20 goals Novakovich has 30 and 11. He is the only player that seems to be on Jozy's level as far as club performance. I get that not qualifying for the world cup hurt your fee fees or whatever, but it is objectively obvious that Jozy should be on the team at the moment. Even if it just for his hold up play. Something that was sorely lacking through most of the gold cup. At this point the only forwards we should have on the roster are Jozy, Novakovich, and sargent. if you want a fourth just pick a random fan from the stadium. They will be about as useful as anyone else in the pool. So none of this makes me a fan boy it just shows that I am able to reason in a logical ********ing manner. We simply do not have a deep pool of forwards that score goals consistantly. In fact we only have servicable forwards and forwards with short track records and a lot of hype.
I love posts like this. Passive-aggressive, fee fees mentioned, even a word the censors decided was too bad for our eyes. We are debating opinion. Yours differs from mine and that’s fine. Jozy Altidore is a has-been and will not be a factor in the next WC team. Regardless of what he has done in the past, we need to play younger, unproven players during the time that is means nothing. Until qualifying starts, wins and losses are meaningless. [personal attack removed by moderator]
Jozy remains the best forward we have. Sargent, if he has the good season I'm hoping for, may surpass him in a year but that's still down the road. Jozy is the number 1 striker for the US right now, bar none.
But right now doesn't mean anything. Who cares about friendlies? We need to see if the kids can play. We already know Zardes and Jozy can blow golden opportunities. And I disagree about Jozy being the #1. I don't see him as being better/worse than a handful of others and I am tired of his lazy play and clumsy finishing.
Jozy also has a good record of scoring of the bench. I wouldn't be surprised to see him off the bench at 35.
He's not even 30 yet. The idea that he's definitely got no role to play in 2 years is silly. If he's performing well when it's time to go to Qatar, he'll be on the plane.
Again, it's amazing how this cycle has a lot more posts about who shouldn't play than who should play.
I'll be looking forward to your commentary when X young player misses a should-be finish. You can't make them all.
That's Big Soccer.Hate Player X ,but dont suggest who the replacement should be,because when you say Player Z,everyone laughs, and then gets sad because the choice really is between X and Z with no reason Y.
It's not rational to say that Jozy, at 29 and clearly the best striker we have right now, should not be called up again. We all yearn for more and better, but 29-year-old Jozy ain't past it. May the young guns step up and take the spot from him. Here's looking at you, Sargent and Soto and Novakovic (and Wood, please get your shit together, too).
It’s absolutely rational to want to see our youth get all the playing time until qualifying starts. We know Jozy and Zardes aren’t good, let’s see if the others are better when the results don’t matter.
Sorry, I’m going to get substantive. Two types of tweaks to the system I could see. As a reminder the system is the collection of methods used to achieve a specified goal. That goal being using positional play and ball movement to create sufficient chances by opening gaps in the opponent’s defense. 1. Pulisic as a “Wider” Attacker: Pulisic is our protagonist, he is the only international level chance creator. His role influences the rest of the attack. He has to play some defense but his burden is minimized and opportunities to counter maximized by playing him at SS. I don’t see why that should change in the near future. So there are a couple ways to do that and have him be “wide”: a. Minor Changes: play Pax at LM/AM and Pulisic at SS/LW. So horizontal instead of vertical positional changes. There needs to be a wide left threat, someone needs to be hanging out wide of the RB and making runs in behind. Pulisic and Pax would still swap their offensive roles but this would likely lead to CP being on the ball less because he would be higher early in buildups while Pax would tend to be a little closer. b. Flip the Backline: now it’s a RB/RCB and a LB/LWB. That means Pulisic plays LW early in buildup and slides inside as the LWB advances. Pax would have to play LM/LCM, Adams LCM/DM, Wes RCM/AM, and Weah RM/RW. That’s kind of weird, but so is an inverted FB. I would guess someone out there would want to play Pax at SS/AM and Pulisic LM/LW->LAM. c. Bigger Changes to our Shape: see below. 2. Changing the shape in attack: Based on Berhalter’s comments about wanting to guard against counters and our goals there’s a likely tweak that maintains a lot of similar roles and then a bigger change that could fit. a. Dual Narrow Fullbacks: this is what Pep did at Bayern and has used at City. The attacking shape would go from a 3-2-2-3 to a 2-3-2-3. That would mean playing two narrow fullbacks. Pep did this because he had Lahm and Alaba, two very versatile, two-way players with the ball control and vision to play in midfield. I could see us doing this with Dest and, quell horreur, Adams. Lima fits, to some degree. Cannon, not as big a stretch as the single inverted fullback but not natural. Gloster and Araujo could possibly do it. Yedlin... you only live once. b. Going to a Tuchel 4-2-3-1 or Ancelotti 4-3-2-1 or some 3 CB formation: basically Berhalter wants to leave a base of 3 guys back with a fourth not too far away. The goal is to stop or mitigate counters. The recent Pep solutions are also about defeating a press and manipulating a packed defense. I think we can meet those goals through other shapes but it deserves more thought to game out.
I'm thinking a 352. Why? Because it looks to me like we have players like Arriola, Lima, Dest, Tommy Thompson,out wide who can score and we have a stable of cb's.
It's because USSF is 3rd rate. They also hired a 3rd rate coach to create 3rd rate rosters. The MNT could be so much better than it is but an incompetent federation is going to be a permanent albatross around the team's neck. Frustrating times and sadly, it's not going to get any better. I'm resigned to that future.
@Bob Morocco I only disagree on one point. Jozy creates a lot of chances. I also think that we need at leas one more. TFC won everything once they added Victor Vazquez as their third chance creator.