Q48: Germany v. Sweden, 29 June

Discussion in 'Women's World Cup' started by soccernutter, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    #1 soccernutter, Jun 26, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2019
    Germany

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    v.
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    Sweden

    All due respect to @Gilmoy, I need to start the threads going forward due to the nature of the conversation.

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  2. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

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    Jul 20, 2017
    I'd LOVE to see a Sweden win, but apparently they always lose to Germany and that sort of history is very hard for teams to overcome, psychologically. Here's hoping the Nordic Yellows prevail!
     
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  3. footyfan933

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    Jun 6, 2019
    Who wore it better?

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  4. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
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    Germany you know what to do tomorrow :D
     
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  5. Weltmann

    Weltmann Member

    Sep 9, 2012
    If Sweden wants to finally get over that german hump, now is the time. Not the greatest german team ever and the backline always ready for a mistake. In all fairness though Almuth Schult has been great. Hoping for Germany, but not mad if they go out. MVT has built a nice foundation for the future, after the dark times of Steffi Jones.
     
  6. footyfan933

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    Jun 6, 2019
    Ive read up the comeback story of Marina Hegering and why shes been out of football for like 6 years but if you have to rely on personnel like her then you must not have that many good defenders options available.
     
  7. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    I don't know the story: any link?
     
  8. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
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    Hegering’s good though

    But yeah remember the days when Babett Peter and Josephine Henning were their CBs lol :rolleyes:
     
  9. Sport Billy

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    May 25, 2006
    This game is going to be fun
     
  10. kolabear

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    Nov 10, 2006
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    Germany (official rating 2072) expected odds to advance (.653) over Sweden (official 1962) - 110 rating point differential

    Using performance ratings:
    Germany (perf rating 2108) expected odds (.667) over Sweden (perf rating 1987) - 121 point differential.

    The thing (which should remain unspoken) that scares me is Germany's performance rating since firing Steffi Jones is almost 2200, which is the stratosphere only US and Germany in most dominant years attained, at least in last 15-20 years.

    However, a tie with Sweden would knock about 50 points off that. And a loss would knock about 100. So it only takes one, you could say, to say "they were overrated".
     
  11. footyfan933

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    Jun 6, 2019
    #11 footyfan933, Jun 29, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2019
    It was weeks ago so unfortunately I cant find the article/interview anymore.

    Let me summarize:

    2008-2010 Hegering was the up and coming DM/CB player in the German youth ranks. She also to this day is the player who has made the most games for Germany's U20. She is the same class as Popp (90-91).

    In 2010 Germany wins the U20 WC with Popp, Hegering (and Kulig) and from then onwards everything went downhill for her. Whenever Popp succeeded and won titles, Hegering sat at home.

    All started in 2011 when she had what was then considered a minor injury on the heel of her foot. Whenever she stepped on a football field she was in pain and 7-8 operations didnt help so by 2012 she had to give up professional football. She was employed with Bayer(Leverkusen) more in office than on the field. By early 2017 they had developed a new operation technique but Hegering wondered if it was worth it as she was unsure if she wanted to play football again. She wanted to give it one last try and it worked. In between there was 5 years of no professional football at all. She was hired by Essen in 2017. One and a half years later she is playing in a world cup as starter.

    Tl, dr: The career that never was
     
  12. Thomsen

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    Don’t understand why Germany are considered such big favourites, I think it will be more close
     
  13. Berchtesgaden

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    Agreed this will be a battle.

    Hope Germany get it done
     
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  14. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
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    You must have spent at least 500 posts slagging off Babett Peter on this forum over the years. You miss her like a bad marriage. :p
     
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  15. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
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    Neither team has looked super-impressive recently but Germany have a better history, both overall and recently, while Sweden have had stumbles. That is, Germany have shown they can consistently find the result, no matter the situation or how well they play, while Sweden haven't.
     
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  16. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
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    I’ve barely talked about her ever since she was dropped from the squad lol
     
  17. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
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    Well starting 11s are out and I’m really excited to see how they can handle Sweden’s counters
     
  18. Gilmoy

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    #18 Gilmoy, Jun 29, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2019
    Simon for Schweers; Dallmann for Leupolz.

    Identical.

     
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  19. footyfan933

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    Jun 6, 2019
    Im watching the German feed... I dont understand a word but it seems to me they are trying to troll Sweden with Nia Künzer as tv expert
     
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  20. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
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    @Bauser
    But yeah I don’t think you’re entirely wrong about my little obsession with Peter back under the Jones era when I was very into the team and women’s football for some reason :rolleyes:
     
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  21. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

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    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
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    Albania
    I'm neutral on this but I wish all the best for my compatriot Kosovare Asllani.
     
  22. footyfan933

    footyfan933 Member

    Jun 6, 2019
    German tv has Popp starting in DM
     
  23. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
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    Smart move, much more useful there then up on top alone and isolated
     
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  24. MiLLeNNiuM

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    Aug 28, 2016
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    Wow! Sweden haven't beaten Germany since 1991.
     
  25. footyfan933

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    Jun 6, 2019

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