Squad Barometer - Forwards Select 2

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by BorisG, Jul 5, 2017.

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Forwards - Select 2

Poll closed Jul 5, 2018.
  1. Werner

    29 vote(s)
    93.5%
  2. Stindl

    9 vote(s)
    29.0%
  3. Gomez

    13 vote(s)
    41.9%
  4. Wagner

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  5. Kruse

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  6. Volland

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  7. Selke

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. Platte

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Lasogga's 3 year contract in Qatar will pretty much bring him to 30-31 y/o when it's over. Seems clear at this point of his career that he only wants to play for the money
     
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  2. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    On the topic of washed up players, Sandro Wagner has been pretty garbage in the Chinese Super League. He's played the entire 90 mins in 10 match days and still remains scoreless.
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wagner the self proclaimed best German striker is rubbish and it's embarrassing that such a garbage player played for the senior NT.

    damn son, can't even perform in China, lol.

    in the end Wagner, was only enhanced due to Nagelsmann who made him serviceable. But he's a good header but a complete donkey with the ball at his feet.

    likely went for China for the $$$ knowing he's washed up. Also doesn't deserve a mention in the lost talent thread.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol back in 2BL for the former German youth International.


    not sure how 92-Biada a SS/CF goes to 2BL before 96-Kuhlwetter


    looks like FCN are looking to sell off 91-Schleusener and FCN in 2BL are interested.
    https://www.kicker.de/751152/artikel/auch-schleusener-im-visier-des-fcn#omsmtwkicker

    I really hope that Freiburg just leaves room for one of their interesting strikers from II. Would love to see more Freiburg integration and Waldschmidt is good chance out in Summer 2020 as well.
     
  5. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    another 96 CF seems to be jumping to 1BL-2BL. Never played beyond RL.
     
  7. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Iyoha on loan to Holstein Kiel. Wonder if Serra will end up leaving this summer



    Tietz signs with Wehen Wiesbaden

     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Tietz deserves to finally play 2BL but he wasted last season in 3rd Liga.

    and lyoha, 3 loans in 3 seasons, sheesh with the lack of trust and desire to integrate a player. During the season he goes back to 1BL he'll turn 24 years old. Then comes the question of who kind of role he'll play with Fortuna (assuming they survive next year) in 2020-2021? And how long is his leash before they axe him? Does he get one season or more? Seriously Funkel is shit at integration due to having no trust in players as he wants more experience.

    have to say the career path of Tietz and lyoha are exactly the ones I tend to find annoying as hell. Nothing but years wasted in lower levels and by the time they are even relevant (if ever), they are already past their mid-20s, as in 25+.

    both are still youth NT eligible if Germany makes the Olympics.
     
  9. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Notable strikers born 96 and onwards to watch in the 2BL next season. Based on current club alignment or confirmed transfer.

    96: Platte, Hanslik, Kyereh
    97: Wekesser, Tietz, Owusu, Iyoha, Knöll, Mörschel
    98: Serra, Lauberbach, Daferner
    99: Otto, Krüger, Wintzheimer, Atilgan
    00: Massimo, Awuku, Kehr
    01: Dajaku
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    98-Amenyido, Euschen, Stark (according to Pauli he's a 1st team prospect)
    99-Vujinovic
    00-Batmaz, Kother, Owusu

    although Massimo can play CF, I don't believe Stuttgart seems him as one more likely to be seen and played as a Winger.

    Another note I suspect that Vujinovic, Kother, Owusu might struggle to get any chances next season. Doesn't help one bit that Vujinovic, Kother and Batmaz are all in the same club. Could see some loans.

    Also the reason 00 are light in 2BL is because almost are the rated ones will be basically 1BL/RL or RL/1BL, a lot of 00 strikers seem rated by their clubs and not far off the 1st teams. Others will be RL who have to impress there and later on change clubs. And a pretty decent amount of them are skipping RL and going to 3rd Liga, which leaves 2BL bare. 99s far more likely to make some career progress between now and next Summer. Of course as you stated, it's for now only, there is like another 2 months in transfer market.

    98-Jannik Mause's trial at Aue so far has had him score 9 goals in 3 games I believe. He can also play winger which could help him land a gig there if not hopefully he finds a solid 3rd Liga club. I feel like if he fails it would be more due to lack of space over him.
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I plan to keep track of
    Serra, Daferner, D.Otto, Kruger, Wintzheimer, Awuku, Kehr, Dajaku

    Curious how they do
    Lauberbach, Knoll, Tietz, Wekesser, Hanslik, Kyereh, Euschen, *Stark*, Atilgan, Owusu

    a lot of these names here are 2BL newbies or more newish.

    doubts to whether they will get chances
    Vujinovic, Batmaz, Kother, Owusu

    I think Batmaz is the more likely

    and finally Platte and lyoha
    I hope Platte can get his stuff together and stay injury free.
    lyoha needs to do very well next season as that could determine 1st team chances in 1BL for 2020-2021. He needs to stop going on loan to lower levels.
     
  12. Jordan Khamra

    Jordan Khamra Member

    May 21, 2014
    Lasogga had real potential but injuries ruined what could have been a promising career...
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    we have a long list of players and strikers ruined due to injury. Sometimes I feel like a good amount of our players are injury prone.

    I sometimes wonder what Lewa does to never be injured? Maybe people should look there.

    I think recently we've had tons of strikers ruined by injuries, which is an issue. Platte talks about his issues recently. Seems like he's changed his diet recently.
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...atte-neues-glueck-mit-zopf-62818108.bild.html
     
  14. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    if he joins it's 100% all about the $$$, some reports were saying that Kruse wants too much money which is why he hasn't gone anywhere.

    sad that our older strikers are all headed nowhere.
     
  16. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    The EPL rumors never materialized for him, can't remember if there was any interest in Serie A for him or not. If Kruse didn't want to stay at Werder, then Eintracht Frankfurt would have probably been the best fit for him in the BL. Where he can still play some meaningful football.

    But yeah, looks like it's about the money and what should be his final career contract. He's also linked with the Chinese league where Sandro Wagner already is. Kruse, Wagner and Lasogga the three oldies out for the money.
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I believe reports stated was that what he wanted from Frankfurt would have put him at an extreme wage compared to the rest of the squad.

    and he doesn't play for Germany but Mlapa is another one.

    I really hope that the 98-onwards and some of the 96-97 guys can go to 1BL soon, we need more options.
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Decided to expand this to all strikers in 1BL+2BL. Kind of fun to see the age group listing tbh.
    I'll update it again towards the end of transfer period.

    85-Gomez (2BL), Gruttner (2BL)
    87-Hennings (1BL)
    88-Stindl (1BL), Petersen (1BL), Terodde (1BL), Schipplock (2BL)
    89-Schieber (1BL), Keita-Ruel (2BL), Schaffler (2BL)
    90-Niederlechner (1BL), Hahn (1BL), Michel (1BL), Al Ghaddioui (2BL), Testroet (2BL)
    91-Ginczek (1BL), Uth (1BL), Polter (1BL), Dursun (2BL), Zoller (2BL), Schleusener (unknown whether 1BL or 2BL), Quaner (Championship)
    Behrens (1BL), Pourie (2BL), Alvarez (2BL)
    92-Volland (1BL), Zolinski (1BL), Thomalla (2BL), Klos (2BL), Voglsammer (2BL), Girth (2BL)
    93-Fullkrug (1BL), Schmidt (2BL), Roser (2BL), S.Parker (2BL), Engels (2BL), Hofmann (2BL)
    94-Philipp (1BL),Ducksch (unknown whether 1BL or 2BL), Holer (1BL), Glatzel (2BL, no 1BL chances?), Quaschner (2BL)
    Srbeny (EPL???)
    95-Selke (1BL), Weydandt (2BL,could easily have jumped ship but showing gratitude to the club who gave him a chance) Kleindienst (1BL), Palacio Martinez (2BL), Kopke (1BL),Lohkemper (2BL), Steininger (2BL), Hansch (2BL)
    96-Werner (1BL), Waldschmidt (1BL), Platte (2BL), Seydel (unknown if 1BL or 2BL), Hanslik (2BL), Kyereh (2BL)
    97-Teuchert (1BL?), Richter (1BL, more Winger), Knoll (2BL), Reese (Unknown 1BL or 2BL), Eckert (unknown future), Tietz (2BL), Owusu (2BL), Mörschel (2BL), lyoha (2BL loan from 1BL), Wekesser (2BL)
    98-J.Eggestein (1BL), Daferner (2BL loan from 1BL), Ache (Eredivisie), Amenyido (2BL), Stark (2BL),,Serra (2BL???), Berisha (Austrian Bundesliga), L.Nmecha (1BL future???), Lauberbach (2BL), Euschen (2BL)
    99-D.Otto (2BL loan from 1BL), Kruger (2BL, seems to have a buyback), Musel (1st teamer but unknown role/future), Wintzheimer (2BL),Atilgan (2BL), Euschen (2BL), Vujinovic (2BL??? seems more like 3rd Liga)

    I won't do 00s as it's too early for them but do plan to make a 1BL-3rd Liga 98-00 list in youth thread at some point over next 2 months.

    Of course you got all the II guys who could get chances throughout the season.
     
  19. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    wasted time for Teuchert.

    wasted 2 season at Schalke always unfit/injured, lost his U21 Germany spot and now being dumped back to 2BL.
     
  21. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  22. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  23. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think he should avoid 1BL, don't think he's good enough for that yet. Majority of his goals in EPL2 were PKs and as a 22 year old he was older than a lot of players there. Eredivisie or 2BL is a better start and more likely to be given real game time.

    looks like both Teuchert and Ducksch might end up in 2BL at H96 season joining Weydandt. Makes sense both did not succeed in 1BL need to go back to 2BL. And likely because they don't play a role in their current clubs.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    no longer a candidate, it's official, signed for 3 years.



    wonder if he can dev into H96's Fullkrug?
     

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