Post-match: USA v Panama - Gold Cup - 6/26

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by tbonepat11, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On a less contentious note did anyone notice that both coaches (GGG and Dely Valdes) had similarly spectacular egg-like bald domes? If the average person has a forehead, those two have like an eight-head in the aggregate. If I were more inspired and had the time I'd find and post side by side pix. Truly it's a spectacular head-to-head matchup.
     
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  2. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    More like regressed.
     
  3. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh really? [​IMG]
     
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  4. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I didnt watch closely as the game was at such a low level. I guess that is what you get when you roll out 10 MLS players and Miazga. Gotta wonder what Miazga did to deserve that. Seven of those ten players were in January camp. Five of them started a game, Lewis came off the bench and Cannon didnt get a shot because he didnt understand the role that is no longer being used. Morris and Altidore would have been there but werent healthy and Gonzo was busy moving slowly in Liga MX. These are players that he has been looking at all year and still considering.

    The team could be improved slightly by Bradley for Trapp and Long ot Zimmerman for Gonzo, but not in any material way. We have wasted a half a year on players that have no business playing at this level. Those are the players that MLS has developed and for some reason, we have 17 of them on our roster.

    People who are happy or even satisfied with 3 wins, 11+ GD, 0 conceded, blah, blah, blah are ignoring how rough we have looked for long stretches against very poor teams. We have one more game with no competition. Then a tiny test against Jamaica or Panama. If the issues dont become apparent by then, the game vs Mexico is going to hurt a lot.
     
  5. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    Winning ugly is fine but it usually indicates you'll run into a problem against an actual good team as you speculated. Usually. We'll see if the team can raise it's level of play against better competition.

    Read almost every post in this thread, awesome stuff. I'll just add that yea it appears we are being way too conservative with the player pool. Some of these guys are just wasting our time and any potential younger/better replacement's time.
     
  6. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The game was up for grabs at 0-0. Pulisic came on at 65' and less than 60 seconds later provided the corner kick that was headed across goal and Altidore finished. Before Pulisic, the view was that Panama could have go ahead in the final 25 minutes, so maybe we needed an insurance goal, and we got it. There were no guarantees.
     
  7. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Who are you and will you please give this account back to Sad Robot/Suyuntuy?
     
  8. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Mihailovic took that corner.
     
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  9. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right. I went back and looked. Mea culpa.
     
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  10. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was bad in the first half, including a red card challenge, and completely anonymous traffic cone in the 2nd. Hooray!

    "The problem" may have been moreso other players. But, we saw good play from Miazga, Cannon, Morris, and Altidore. These are players who we want to see more of/see on the roster.

    In the B game, it's not enough to be *maybe not the worst on the field* as the only alternative to MB we've ever seen.
     
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  11. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    I was thinking the same thing and was going to mention it but you did it for me. It was refreshing to hear him criticize the team and not clamor for a reason to spin positivity.

    I also thought Landon did a good job in a similar vein regarding the lineup and Greg’s plan re: mass roster changes and not really learning that much due to it.
     
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  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    At first I thought the point of Trapp was to make us miss Bradley, but now I think others are correct and Wil has always been Berhalter's voice on-the-field.
     
  13. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The corner sucked now that you know who took it.
     
  14. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't read too much into the game. Obviously, it's good that we won and we were the better team. Panama generally played hard so it wasn't like they just parked the bus. Unfortunately, the officiating was horrible - for both teams.

    I like that TripleG played the bench, especially giving Johnson an opportunity to play. It used to drive me nuts seeing Howard play in games where it really didn't matter and not give an opportunity to have backups compete at the position. We were lucky that Howard was generally healthy.

    I never bought into the narrative of the USMNT having challenges of competing in CONCACAF after not qualifying for the last WC. We are and will always remain a top 3 team in the region. Other nations will come and go and we may have a poor cycle like last time, but it doesn't change the long term outlook.

    However, as it's painfully obvious, we have a long way's to being competitive consistently on the world stage. The drop off between the "A" and "B" Team is significant.

    Alright! Let's beat who ever we are playing next!
     
  15. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    They mentioned during the broadcast how close the two of them are. Omar will have to look a lot worse than last night before Berhalter will see enough to leave him out of the squad.
     
  16. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heh. Hard to tell from the play whether the header across goal and the cross that reached him was part of a planned set play, or just fortunate.
     
  17. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    It was a very good corner kick. I think it was the only good free kick/corner from Djorde all night. He took at least a half dozen of the things. You would think Trapp would take them since accurate long balls is his thing, being "in the mixer" is not, nor is breaking up counters. What does Trapp do on corners and free kicks?
     
  18. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You act as if he's been the head coach for 3 years and still hasn't tried out "the obvious". Also, I look sincerely hope he tries out adams at the 6 soon, both because that's where I'd like most to see him and so that the endless angry criticism drops by 2/3.
     
  19. 21st Century Pele

    Apr 16, 2014
    Commit fouls
     
  20. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    If it's Thursday it must be another gunnerfan7 anti-Trapp scree. An excellent example of boringly predictable, BS reactivism ad nauseum.
     
  21. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Omar is nowhere near that mobile.
     
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  22. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Tell me what Trapp did that was good.
     
  23. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I realize T&T is not strong competition, but the team looked great there.

    I think the team is getting it - the first team certainly seems to be. I think that our current B team is simply not good enough at execution to consistently deliver on it.
     
  24. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That's not fair. He moves up and down the field WAY better than any of those guys. His lateral movement, however...
     
  25. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    This. Every day man/woman can make a difference with the power of social media. Blast his twitter, facebook, and instagram accounts. Call this snitch out.
     

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