Canadian Premier league

Discussion in 'Canada' started by mikehurst21, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. RocketRobin

    RocketRobin Member

    Canada
    Feb 3, 2007
    Toronto
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  2. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    CPL already having a huge impact on BC Soccer
     
  3. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Goaler

    Goaler Member

    Bristol City, Slavia Prague, Pacific FC, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, Vancouver Whitecaps, Philadelphia Union
    England
    Apr 11, 2007
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    In the CPL teams can't get as many MLS loans, I never heard that?
     
  5. Goaler

    Goaler Member

    Bristol City, Slavia Prague, Pacific FC, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, Vancouver Whitecaps, Philadelphia Union
    England
    Apr 11, 2007
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I thought I read before that CPL teams are mostly made up of non lower level players, but aren't they though, I mean mostly Calgary Foothills just won the Spring and Forge is mostly made up of Sigma.
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  7. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  8. thekorean

    thekorean Member

    Jan 10, 2017
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Quebec city and Regina?
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  10. Goaler

    Goaler Member

    Bristol City, Slavia Prague, Pacific FC, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, Vancouver Whitecaps, Philadelphia Union
    England
    Apr 11, 2007
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Laval are likely the 1st.
     
  11. thekorean

    thekorean Member

    Jan 10, 2017
    Club:
    New York City FC
    York 9 did CPL proud tonight.
     
  12. Goaler

    Goaler Member

    Bristol City, Slavia Prague, Pacific FC, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, Vancouver Whitecaps, Philadelphia Union
    England
    Apr 11, 2007
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
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    Last edited: Jul 10, 2019
    Not really, they messed up.
     
  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Vancouver already have their eyes on Canadian Premier league players and acknowledging that mistakes were made on players evaluation.
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  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  16. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    There's some noise growing over the Canadian spots allocations
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    Kurt Larson is the head of content at MediaPro, recently promoted from the same title within the league and is an invaluable source of inside information. Not that it's anything new but the league is still pushing for it's champion to take over the CAN1 spot, which would allocate the CAN2 spot to the Canadian Championship.

    The thinking, rightfully so, is that the 3 Canadians MLS clubs should qualify to the Champions League via the league and not via the domestic cup like it's being done in regards to Welsh clubs in EPL.
     
  17. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Except that the "MLS" spots are actually American spots that the USSF happens to allocate via MLS rankigns. So the Canadian MLS teams will never have access to them.

    As for reordering the Canadian spots, I disagree. I understand the angle (from CPL teams) that the CPL champion would get Canada 1. I also understand the "everyone else does it that way" idea. Unfortunately, both arguments ignore the reality of soccer in Canada. Our best teams aren't in our domestic league. Maybe we could have this conversation in a decade when we see where the CPL lands.
     
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  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The Welsh example always comes back to justify why they can never leave MLS. Why can they earn Champions league spots and the 3 MLS teams can't via league play?

    Or are they truly just guests?

    To be fair, Larson said "eventually" so not in the very short term.

    Also, it's becoming absurd that TFC can win the CCL spot by winning 2 games out of 4 and the other MLS teams can do it with 3 wins out of 6.

    The league argument is reinforced that having to be the best out of 28 games makes more sense than 4 or 6 games. The pressure on the CSA will just keep increasing. The best solution is to get a 2nd CCL spot which would make everyone happy.

    As for the reality of soccer in Canada, that isn't a valid argument as someone in the Voyageurs forum pointed out:
    • FC Andorra, which plays in Spanish leagues, cannot qualify forEuropean competition, only teams from the Andorran league can--and many would say that those teams are inferior in quality to FC Andorra. Does not matter. European competition is one thing, using the best club to help your national team players improve is considered completely separate.
    At some point, CPL will get the CCL spot. Question will be if a 2nd one will be given in time to the VCup. Otherwise, I could see a swap happening with the VCup ending op with the CONCACAF league instead.

    Who should be the "Champion of Canada"? The winner of 2 or 3 games or the one who wins a 28 games championship?

    Cavalry beating Vancouver and Montreal escaping York is a factor for people to start asking questions
     
  19. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    The point is that the spots belong to country, not the league. The fact that the
    USSF happens to use MLS standings to allocate its spots and that MLS happens to also include Canadian teams is not the point. They are American spots to which Canadian teams aren't entitled no matter what league they play in.

    I (as a TFC fan) think it's silly that TFC entered so late this year. I also see it as a format that will get changed.


    I don't want to say never, but I don't put this in the forseeable horizon.

    The number of games is (largely) irrelevant. 28 games against CPL teams is less than what winning the Canadian Championship requires which is taking on all comers of whatever league. The winner of that is truly the best team and should be Canada's representative.
     
  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    We're overdue for more berths but the lack of clubs made that hard to justify until CPL. The more clubs that comes in, the more CPL can continues with this type of results and improves, the more berths will come our way.

    We now have 2 while nations that have performed less than we did overall currently have more berths than we do. Forge beating Antigua and proving it could compete against central American teams is a indicator that we need more spots.

    Hence Larson saying "eventually"
     
  21. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  23. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Just get the Fury in already (I say to both the team and the league). It would be so much easier than starting a team from scratch.
     
  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    100% agree but Jonathan De Guzman needs to go
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Welsh clubs in the English system are barred from the Welsh Cup.
     

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