Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    this I don't get. I mean why does Odoi want to move to Germany? With a transfer ban he'll play a ton next season and the guy complains like a baby that he's not playing enough.

    a 00 19 year old who played like 1200 min this season in all competition. That's a lot for his age and for an England club too. Going to Bayern is no guarantee that he'll be a starter either.

    meanwhile the other 00 winger Davies so far has been rather eh in RL for Bayern II.
    0 goals and 1 assists in 3 games playing 270 min.

    his only goal in 1BL was a tap in after Bayern was already 5-0 up.
     
  2. EstOne

    EstOne New Member

    Germany
    Apr 17, 2019
    These stats might be misleading. Based on the following video, he is probably way too good for the RL.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I know he's done better but efficiency is still important for someone who cost a fortune like him, he needs to justify his price tag.

    and lets be honest he's only given 1st team chances because of the price tag. Hasan and others have already said so. There are tons of players who do very well in RL but are never given chances because they cost peanuts....
     
  4. EstOne

    EstOne New Member

    Germany
    Apr 17, 2019
    What's the reason for his big price tag ? Doesn't it have to do with his huge potential? If they thought he was shit, they wouldn't have bought him for big money. Look at his athleticism, technique, dribbling skills, duel behaviour. He has the potential to play at a very high level. They think he can make the first team, that's why they bought him and give him 1st team chances. Plus, all their first team wingers are injury prone. So I think there are multiple factors. His price tag + high potential + Ribery, Robben and Coman being injured.

    I doubt that. I think it's about the talent level. Another thing to consider is that if they shine in RL and their BL club doesn't give them chances, they will move to another club in a higher division and shine there eventually. Janni Serra and Dorsch for instance. Big talents don't get stuck in the RL forever. Big talents move up the ranks and get what they deserve by the time they are 24-25. Some clubs might slow them down for a season or two but they get what they deserve in the end in my opinion. Of course it can be frustrating for us fans but that's the reality.
     
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    the price tag is in part due to bidding war between Bayern and other clubs and it's Hasan who bought him. Neither Uli nor KHR, nor Kovac decided anything. Seems like any player worth less than a certain amount Hasan can get him without needing approval. Another reason for the price tag is that Davies was the biggest talent in the shit league of MLS, they weren't going to sell him cheap either.

    and most of those talents end up moving to 2BL not even 1BL chances that's where the difference is. Don't really buy that either, lots of players they get blocked from moving by their own clubs and others the clubs want to keep them even while admitting they have 0 plans to integrate them to 1st team.We have come to a increasing point in time where RL is mostly not about match practice, it's about a place to put players who return from long term injury for a bit and a place to give chances ONLY when mass injuries happen.
     
  6. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Tbf I can see why Bayern would be very keen to sign him, imo he has genuine potential to be world class and if he signs he will almost instantly be worth anything up to €100m. Already a full international and does not look out of place in either the Chelsea or England team, despite being just 18/19 years old. Would be a great piece of business to get him cheap or even free next year.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    not talking about Bayern but Odoi himself, what's the point of going to Bayern, no guarantee of being a starter when he's already playing a ton at Chelsea while only being 18-19. His desire to leave never made much sense and Sarri might be dumped and Chelsea have a transfer ban next season as well.
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    1125867251889000450 is not a valid tweet id
     
  9. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  10. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  11. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  12. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If Zagadou and Burki still starts for them next season then good luck!!
     
  13. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Almost all of our losses since 2013 were in the semifinals.
     
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  14. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Schalke to get rid of Bentaleb, Mendyl and Harit next season

    While the future remains unclear for the likes of Rudy, Mascarell, Salif Sane and Embolo

    Reports also speculating that David Wagner is one of their top candidates and their transfer policy could change with no longer being able to make big money signings likely after all that money they wasted and should look to develop their own players

    http://www.fussballtransfers.com/bu...-prominente-namen-auf-der-streichliste_103778

    http://www.fussballtransfers.com/nachricht/keine-neuen-stars-fur-schalke_103784
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    lol confirmation that the sister clubs for RB Leipzig are the "reserve" teams for them. Such a pathetic club.
     
  16. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I don't know why club management is so hellbent on signing the wholly unremarkable Thorgan Hazard.
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Frankfurt out of Europe.

    This season is EPL domination.
     
  18. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  19. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    English premiership is just going to get stronger with all the money it generates
     
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  20. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria


     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Relegation Playoff: Stuttgart
    Relegation: H96 and FCN
     
  22. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    FCN!

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  23. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Koln is confirmed 2BL champs and promotions.

    HSV embarrased themselves and won't be back next season.

    now 1BL promotion and playoffs will be between Paderborn (2nd place in 3rd Liga last season what a jump) and Union. Advantage Paderborn for the direct promotion.
     
  25. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Gonna be a challenging summer ahead for HSV. Veteran players like Lasogga, Holtby and Hunt are pretty much all going. They don't have much budget to work with and are mainly planning to bring in other 2BL players even before they reached this point
     
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