Rape/Sexual Assault Culture

Just when you thought it was safe to go past the junior high again, too...

 

My mom would have done so. She tried to get me laid when I started high school. Bought a book called "Your First Time" and conspicuously left it on the coffee table. Set up a date with her friend's "beautiful" 15-year old daughter; they left us alone in the house together.

We played cards. You can't make teenagers have sex any more than you can prevent them.

 

Is it wrong of me to say your mom had issues?

 

Mom was fine. She was raised in typical Puritan 1930s fashion and thought that her children should be brought up otherwise, to think of sex as being wonderful. If that is nuts, then we need more people who are nuts.

Dad was off his rocker, though. Not many people have two sane parents.

 

I can live with that.

 

That makes sense, I've noticed most parents tend to overcompensate for their experiences with their own parents.

 

Well duh. It was a book about smoking weed for beginners. The next one, "Let's Do It!", was book #2 in the Hippie Parent series.

 

And yet you're still a moderator.

 

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Another example of "You get one freebee rape, man".

 

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At least the judge got the back of his hand slapped by an appeals court - but the whole thing is so awful - even the kid called what he did rape (while being proud of it sadly). But yeah, good family and grades (especially if going for your Rape Badge to add to your Eagle Scout uniform) means you can rape at will I suppose - it's a long-standing American tradition, and this kid could be president one day

 

This was the question that popped in to my head first when I read the article. This Judge has raped someone.

 

Maybe so, but at least he had the grades to get into law school.

 

To go back to the transgender age of consent discussion... ("Just when I thought I was out. They pull me back in!")

The difference about the agency in transgender minors is just because being transgender isn't something that you chose to do. For example there are actual structural differences in transgendered peoples brains. They usually have a brain structure that resembles the gender they identify with rather then their biological sex. That's not something that changes just because you wait a few years before starting treatment. It's basically a medical issue. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

Choosing to have sex... Well of course you can do that long before you turn 18. You can also change your mind on it...
People like to think otherwise but there is also a biological component.
For example I have read a German study that found, that girls today (which was somewhere in the '90s) on average have their first period ~2,5 YEARS before their grandmothers had theirs. That's only two generations. A study from 2006 found that the average age has moved another 3 months forward.
Which means the average age of first menstruation is about 13 years now. Puberty starts a few years earlier than that.
Developing sexual urges is just part of puberty. Ignoring that trend and pretending that people younger than 18 are not sexual beings is a fantasy.

That doesn't mean that it isn't scummy of an adult to hook up with a 14 year old. I think it's best for people to have their first sexual experiences with people roughly their own age. But the vehemence with which some people here maintain that someone who isn't 18 can never consent to sexual contacts because they somehow lack the capacity to decide for themselves just seems willfully ignorant to reality.

 

The bolded: with you 100%. As for the age of consent... I think most people understand that it's tied in with what we think people are ready for in other walks of life. Contractual liability, voting, responsibility for adult time for adult crimes... even joining the military (Here, take this gun and your training and go kill folks But you best not touch a can of beer, 'cause you're not ready for that). The military thing is probably the one young people's parents need to be shouting about the most. You come to a school (a SCHOOL, ffs) advertising your "jobs", knowing full well that the Pentagon gigs are few/far between, and a large % of your recruits won't ever make it to a place where they won't be the ones dodging bullets or stopping them. For the most part, they're getting the kids whose grades don't get them a ride, or who can't pay for their education. Give those same kids three years (until 21) to find a job, finish school, start a family, whatever, and they don't end up in uniform.

I'll also add that the "abstinence until marriage" crowd doesn't grasp much of this, either. When you factor in the amount of time it takes to complete one's education and find a career (not just finish HS and get a job) and get that career going to the point where you can survive on your own leaves you well into your 20s or early 30s before you can think about marriage. That could be a decade and a half or more between puberty and their first sexual experience. Nobody wants that.