MLS 2019 Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by firefan2001, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't see any groups of school kids on Wednesday and it wasn't the lowest attendance I've seen for a midweek game.

    NYCFC are struggling to create a pervasive reason to show up to games. They have an inexperienced coach, lack any players of note and can't win games playing a style of football that is, quite frankly, putrid.

    At least the Red Bulls have a bunch of home-grown players to cheer for and an exciting style of play at times. It's
    just that the Metrostars generation are getting older and it's a struggle to get new fans to schlep to Harrison.
     
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  2. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Felt like 20-21k or so from experience. Curious how that compares to actual announced number.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN has kindly added attendance to their fixtures and results page.

    The Vancouver attendance looks shocking but it's higher than against San Jose on May 18 last year (a Friday night).

    RESULT LOCATION ATTENDANCE

    Montreal Impact 1 - 0 Chicago Fire FT Saputo Stadium 15,758
    Minnesota United FC 1 - 0 DC United FT Allianz Field 19,620
    Seattle Sounders FC 1 - 1 LAFC FT CenturyLink Field, Seattle 38,581
    LA Galaxy 2 - 1 Real Salt Lake FT Dignity Health Sports Park, Los Angeles 20,615
    New York City FC 1 - 1 Orlando City SC FT Yankee Stadium 20,862
    Toronto FC 1 - 2 Portland Timbers FT BMO Field 24,832
    FC Dallas 0 - 0 San Jose Earthquakes FT Toyota Stadium 14,087
    Vancouver Whitecaps 1 - 1 Philadelphia Union FT BC Place, Vancouver 17,835
    Atlanta United FC 1 - 0 Colorado Rapids FT Mercedes-Benz Stadium 43,005
    New York Red Bulls 1 - 0 FC Cincinnati FT Red Bull Arena 16,848
    Houston Dynamo 2 - 0 Columbus Crew SC FT BBVA Compass Stadium 15,557
    Sporting Kansas City 4 - 4 New England Revolution FT Children's Mercy Park, Kansas City 18,511
     
  4. MelbaToast

    MelbaToast Member+

    Jun 20, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Week 9 Round-up:
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the good work.

    Fyi, it was very windy in New York on Saturday afternoon, sustained 20 mph winds according to weather underground, which put me off from attending.
     
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  6. Onionrings

    Onionrings Member

    Sep 30, 2016
    Long Island
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it was cold, man. Makes it all the more infuriating the team won't play a single home match in the entire month of May when the weather starts to warms up.
     
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  7. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure you can quite call it a "crisis" when the average through four home games is less than 1,000 off the pace of what it was in 2018.

    2018 (avg. 16,736)
    03/10 - 18,374 (Timbers)
    03/24 - 14,768 (Loons)
    04/14 - 15,017 (Impact)
    04/21 - 18,784 (Fire)

    ___________________________

    2019 (avg. 15,821)
    03/16 - 15,621 (Quakes)
    03/23 - 15,108 (Orlando)
    04/06 - 15,706 (Loons)
    04/27 - 16,848 (Cincy)
     
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  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a continuation of the topic that shall not be mentioned in this thread. ;)

    People act like NYRB announced attendance hasn't matched their actual attendance since they were in Giants Stadium.. The problem is, and always has been, since we have no actual attendance numbers to discuss and the "it looked like only <some number smaller than announced attendance>" discussions are a non-starter, there's no reason in bringing it up here..
     
  9. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for this data. I did not realize how close we are to last year's numbers. I really wasn't participating in a "looked like more/less on tv" discussion. I was under the impression that the announced numbers were down 20% or so.
    Crisis averted.
     
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  10. zensum

    zensum Member+

    Jan 22, 2008
    The Bronx, NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Ok...here are some numbers...Dave Martinez attended one of the NYCFC games last week and lamented on twitter about the low turnout...someone responded that he has a family member who works security at Yankee Stadium and suggested the two games each had around 14k actual people in attendance...our Saturday night game with decent weather had significantly fewer people at RBA...numbers can be deceiving...don't like crisis then maybe mini-crisis even compared to last year...NYCFC fans can characterize their situation as they wish...

    Hopefully the link below works...

    1122888721639059457 is not a valid tweet id
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When have we ever trusted someone's bartender's cousin's friend for numbers? ;)
     
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  12. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do any of these stats look fishy? Lemme know if any look fishy.
     
  13. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    One does look bullish...another foxy...another revolutionary...ok ill stop.
     
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  14. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    12,890 in Philadelphia (I believe this is the smallest crowd in their history)
     
  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. SabreKhan

    SabreKhan Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLB "suffering" with "only" 31,000 fans x 81 games. To put that in perspective, it's more people per year than even the biggest college football teams who regularly pack in 100,000+ per game.
     
  17. zensum

    zensum Member+

    Jan 22, 2008
    The Bronx, NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    #817 zensum, May 3, 2019
    Last edited: May 3, 2019
    Boomer and Gio the morning drive time hosts on WFAN here had a long conversation yesterday on butts in seats at Citi Field in particular but also at other New York sports venues including Yankee Stadium and Met Life for the Jets and Giants…listened to a lot of it...

    No soccer obviously but the conclusion was that folks at games here is down across the board with multiple 2019 baseball crowds mirroring RBNY and NYCFC…they didn't of course mention the soccer teams but thought actual baseball crowds between 10k and 15k have been common even at Yankee Stadium…

    They decided it wasn't a big deal as long as the New York teams had sufficient revenue to build the teams…clearly gate receipts are more important in soccer but they didn't see 2019 as a New York attendance crisis…a peripheral issue for them at best...
     
  18. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    anyone else think the US missing the world cup was a much bigger deal then maybe people realized especially with the casual sports fan? The sport didnt have the huge spike of visibility it gets every 4 yeas because of it and maybe people have somewhat forgotten about it.
     
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  19. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    The World Cup had decent ratings, so that's not it.
     
  20. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Biggest crowd I have seen on TV at RBA in a long time. I am guessing it will be a sellout. Whatever that number is since they blocked off some sections. Makes you wonder if they could have sold those seats too if they hadn't blocked them off.
     
  21. jeffclimbs

    jeffclimbs Member

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Crisis averted!!
     
  22. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Zlatan happened
     
  23. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They did take down some of the blocked sections for this game, so no.
    How much of the Redbull Arena is tarpped off? At first I thought it was just upper deck on one side of the stadium (above the goal), but it looks like both sides of the stadium (above the goals). 7 to 8 sections on both sides.

    Even Zlatan couldn't sellout the stadium.;)
     
  24. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well there were still plenty of blocked off sections, he did sell the non blocked sections.
     
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  25. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Someone had said they blocked off sections because they are preparing for some changes in the stadium. If that is true these sections would not have been opened even if demand called for it.
    I don't know if that is the case for sure.
     

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