Qatar 2022

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    That is a whale of a tale.
     
  2. Persepolis#8

    Persepolis#8 Member

    Manchester United/Persepolis
    Dec 19, 2018
    Lol ok just setting the bar on who owns Asia and who doesn't.

    If anything FIFA might try to expand just for the China market and fluke them in like they did in 2002 but China's team needs a major rehaul and is mostly composed of players in their 30s.

    Arie Haan, Jose Antonio Camacho, Alain Perrin, and Marcelo Lippi couldn't do it. Cannavaro is going to try now.
     
  3. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If they want to encourage people to go to Qatar they should look at the cost of attending. I expect it will be astronomically expensive. Lack of accommodation being the biggie. Anybody who can afford to attend is not likely to have much trouble getting a visa.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/qatar-2022-world-cup-hotel-shortage-2016-3?r=US&IR=T

    That is out of date so the situation may turn out to be better or worse than that. I don't fancy camping in the desert and I definitely wouldn't want to trust to AirBnB in Qatar. Cultural issues means I wouldn't be comfortable and relaxed.

    Not sure that 60,000 rooms would be enough even if they had them. They're surely going to need a higher than usual percentage of visiting supporters as they're the smallest country to host since Uruguay. A lot more tickets to sell these days.
     
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  4. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Qatar would be the smallest country to host, period. The Uruguay World Cup doesn't count with respect to fan attendance. No one not living in Uruguay, Argentina or southern Brazil could even reasonably get there.

    Either the attendance in Qatar will be a fraction of prior World Cups, or it will be utter chaos, with people staying in makeshift camps, if they're lucky.
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The GCC is jam-packed with Indians. Ranging from labour class to billionaires. If we can get the ones already here to attend that will go a long way in filling the grounds. As Russell Peters put it, very non-PC like, "Indians are the Mexicans of the Middle East".

     
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  6. Holden S14

    Holden S14 Red Card

    Manchester United
    United States
    Apr 26, 2019
    Organizing the World Cup in different parts of the world is a good idea, it's a global event, the biggest sporting event on the planet with the power to unite people all over the world.

    Surely the Middle East and Australia must come their turns.
    In the Middle East you have other great places such as Egypt, Turkey and Iran. All so-called football-mad nations in the region and they are good places to travel to, it would be a memorable World Cup experience to say the least (even though I don't know much about authorities allowing women and families to enter into their stadiums).

    The thing is, Qatar is a small country, a very small geographically (at least the Persian Gulf all together is a reasonable choice).
    A second major problem is the weather conditions in Qatar during summer time so why FIFA trying to make history here, why the need to change in timetable from June/July to November/December in the first place.
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    All good reasons for having a WC in Turkey (not racist Qatar).
     
  8. nbanba

    nbanba Member

    Nov 1, 2004
    2022 will be held in Qatar.
    Asian country is hosting another WC (Strictly it is Middle East)
    Well, I have a feeling that many underdogs will show us great football unlike previous tournaments.
     
  9. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The most recent competitions strongly suggest otherwise.
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Well, in the last WC held in Asia there were two big surprise Asian nations - Korea and Turkey. Overall, 4 of the 8 quarterfinalists were quite surprising.
     
  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That, and Russia 2018 was arguably the AFC's best-ever overall performance, with 4 of their 5 representatives winning at least one game.
     
  12. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I think Russia was Asia's best effort as its the first time they have had 5 qualify, 4 of the 5 won games as you have mentioned, none went home without at least a point and only one blowout which was in the opening game (and that team came back with two stronger performances including a win). In 2002 the host teams went well but the other two not so much.
     
  13. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    S.Korea's games were dodgy enough in the WC they hosted. No need to push it and add Turkey, who go through European qualifying.

    Turkey rarely qualify for the WC (from UEFA). If they became an AFC member they'd stand a better chance. Especially once the WC expands they'd easily qualify (if they switched to AFC, no huge changes for UEFA).
     
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  14. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  15. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I guess officially the 2nd World Cup Stadium is completed and ready.... Al-Wakra Stadium will be inaugurated by hosting the Emir Cup Final on May 16th and once again could feature Xavi's Al Sadd. One of my big fears was that the stadiums would not be ready on time, but it looks like they will be at this rate. Got my ticket so will post more after the match.

    https://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/a...be-inaugurated-for-2019-Amir-Cup-Final-in-May
     
  16. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3216 Paul Calixte, May 2, 2019
    Last edited: May 2, 2019
    Well, yeah, once they abandoned the cooling technology that they promised in their bid :rolleyes:

    EDIT: I stand corrected - it looks like this stadium will have AC after all.

     
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  17. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Help!

    https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/qatar2022/preliminaries/#europe

    This page - if you add up all of the entries for each continent - says that 213 countries will try to qualify for Qatar 2022, despite their being only 211 members of FIFA!

    It also says 50 countries will compete from Europe, 5 less than last time.
     
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    You solved the case.

    They are moving the World Cup to the UK with 5 automatic bids!
    (Even though Ireland is not UK they will throw them a Group.)

    :p;)
     
  19. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the cooling of the stadiums is doable, they already do this for several smaller stadiums, and can do it for the bigger ones too... That's not really the problem.... it's everything outside the stadium that will be the problem... I guess first there's the training facilities... but just outdoor life in general, you can't cool the entire country. It is boiling hot right now and we've just entered May. It would be absolutely unbearable even with the stadiums cooled in June / July. It gets to over 50 degrees celsius on some days, it would not be safe for the general public.
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    That is why they switched to November.
    But still.
     
  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those entries are clearly off...for starters, Concacaf doesn't even have 42 members, much less 42 FIFA-affiliated ones.

    ...unless FIFA peered into a cristal ball, and in a couple months Saint-Barthélémy gets Concacaf membership and all the DOM-TOM sides get fast-tracked FIFA registration (with permission from the French and Dutch FAs) :eek:
     
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  22. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Why would FIFA's own entry list be off?

    Does FIFA still publish a list of entrants? I remember printed ones up until 1998.
     
  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    B/c no one really cares right now.

    Look at the CAF and UEFA: neither has 50 members.
     
  24. Timanfaya

    Timanfaya Member+

    May 31, 2005
    Southampton
    The usual reason, somebody must have been bribed.
     
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  25. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    True, but that is one edition among many that followed the traditional UEFA-domination, with some noteable CONMEBOL exceptions.
     

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