Arsenal ready to sell Edu to Real Madrid

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by oneforthemoney, Dec 14, 2004.

  1. oneforthemoney

    oneforthemoney BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Dec 6, 2004
    NYC
    Arsenal have told Real Madrid they can sign midfielder Edu in January.

    The Daily Mail says Arsenal are ready to cash in on Edu and are demanding £3.45 million for his transfer. Real are so far indicating they won't go higher than £2 million.

    http://tribalfootball.com/december/englshnews7141204.html
     
  2. el_Diablo

    el_Diablo New Member

    Dec 8, 2004
    cold white north
    I say do it.

    pretty good deal either way (£2M or £3,45M), considering that without a new contract wenger is probably not going to play him anyway in spring.

    of course, he should have been sold earlier had it been known that this would happen...
     
  3. tmaker

    tmaker Member

    Nov 24, 2003
    Seattle
    This is a joke, right?

    WTF does Real Madrid need with another slightly above average midfielder in that mess of a midfield they already have? Or has Edu magically become a Galacticetto?

    Why not: dumber things have happened.
     
  4. redondo66

    redondo66 New Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Seattle
    Yeah, getting at least 2million at this point is good news I think. Though I can't see Edu excelling in Madrid, I think he's a much better fit for their system of play than in ours.
     
  5. Jasonisimo

    Jasonisimo New Member

    Jun 3, 2003
    Boston
    That's just it, isn't it? Earlier, it wasn't known that this would happen. :rolleyes:

    And by "this" I mean a few things. The contract situation isn't only about Edu's ability. It's also about Edu's place in the team. Players have emerged this season, in large part because Edu was injured, and that has effected Edu's value as a player to the club.
     
  6. el_Diablo

    el_Diablo New Member

    Dec 8, 2004
    cold white north
    you have a point.
     
  7. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2mil for a guy with only six month left on his contract is a fair price. The problem is whether Gilberto will be able to recover fully from his injury. I have doubts. If Edu is sold we may be left with only three central midfielders for the entire second half of the season. Unless Wenger can line up a good replacement to buy in January, we might be better off keeping Edu til the end of the season and letting him leave on a free. 2 mil wont seem like much money if it costs us the title and weakens our chances in Europe. I call this theory the Upson effect.
     
  8. theleftymop

    theleftymop Member

    Oct 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    The Upson effect! That's hilarious! I share your concerns about midfield depth. If Edu leaves, Cesc will have to maintain his level of effort, Flamini will need to do some heavy lifting, and Gilberto's back will need to recover completely. And, everyone will need to stay healthy. We have four players who can be very good in the middle of the park, which is fine as far as numbers. But with two of them so young and one out with an injured back (spine?), the situation makes me a little nervous.
     
  9. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Not to sound like a total stoner, but......"DUDE, you should totally, like, do it!"
     
  10. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Um, that link is from tribalfootball which is the worst rumor site on the net.

    But I'd rather sell him to Real for 2 mil. than let him go to Barca for free.
     
  11. Przybylinski

    Przybylinski New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    Smallville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If they plan to pick someone up in January then maybe it's time to release him and get the 2 mil for him. If not, I'd keep him on until the end of the season. I don't feel that confident in Flamini yet and Edu has the experience for the CL as well as league play. I don't think we should do it unless we plan to pick up another midfielder. Gilberto is going to be questionalble for the rest of the season, so it would not be wise to let Edu go.
     
  12. Trigger

    Trigger New Member

    Aug 15, 2004
    al'right dave ?
    I'd have liked more money. This would eat into our transfer fund to strengthern our squad in the window and we need a defender at least, midfielder if he goes and possibly a gk, There's other question marks as well. We'll have to take what we can get but it's obvious we'll have to go out and spend now but do it wisely .
    The needs are growing but the kitty is shrinking, it's a small worry.
     
  13. paulocesar

    paulocesar Member

    Oct 4, 2000
    IMHO, Edu was the Emmanuel Petit-like player that Arsenal was looking to partner Vieira last year(break up plays on defense, good passer, score 5-9 goals a season), only for Paddy himself to be injured/suspended and Gilberto playing his role adequately enough. Its a huge understatement saying Edu was important in Arsenal's 03-04 season.

    Flamini and Fabregas have done well for the Gunners this season, but they are still young in only their first seasons....and as has been the case for many young bright players (Reyes as of late, Kaka for Milan, Howard for Manure) the sophomore slump is not uncommon...in fact, one might say it is needed for the player to realize they always have to adapt and learn each and every season. To expect Flamini and Cesc to have stellar second seasons is too much of a burden for them...especially in the physical position that they have to play which is conducive to causing injury. In their case, a severe injury which could be devestating to their careers. If I recall, Wenger only wanted each player to play 18 games this season. They are well on their way to going above that amount each.

    With all the talk about Edu's renegotiations, I'd say better to pay up rather than have him leave on the bosman-free. Just because a player signs a new contract doesn't mean that you won't be able to sell them sooner rather than later (plus, you then don't have to worry about the free). And be honest. That amount being thrown around is dirt cheap for a player of his quality. If you want to sell him, fine. Just don't get robbed while you're doing it. :cool:
     
  14. fox point fury

    May 19, 2001
    Providence
    Me too.

    I have mixed feelings about seeing Edu leave. The club went through a ton of crap to get him and he had a fairly exciting reputation. He took forever to get into the team and then he fell right back out of it. I agree with Jasonisimo's assessment and I feel bad for Edu because he was very important for the team last year.

    It must really and truly suck for an established professional to lose his place (or role if you prefer) to a couple of kids so I can't blame Edu for leaving. I'd like to see him go somewhere where he can actually play though and I don't think he'll fare any better at Barca or Real than he is at Arsenal.
     
  15. TravisMinor_23

    TravisMinor_23 New Member

    Oct 16, 2001
    United States
    Meanwhile, Planetfootball reporting that all three Spanish giants are in for Edu with Valencia in the pole position currently.

    http://skysports.planetfootball.com...irms+big+three+want+him&channel=Football_Home

    Look, under normal circumstances there is absolutley no way you sell Edu with the lack of depth in Arsenal's midfield and with Gilberto's injury problems.

    But Wegner has a unique approach to Bosmans. He has stated before that if Edu is going to be leaving at the end of the year he won't play him the rest of the season anyways, so whats the point of hanging onto him for depth?

    The 2-3 (I think you'll be able to leverage 3 because of the interest) million will be nice, but you really do have to wonder about the long term impact on the squad this season. Hoping Flamini and Cesc will hold up is quite a tall order and Cesc has already appeared more often than you'd like to see a 17 year old.

    It certainly is an odd situation, but with Wegner's philosophy the move is clear: get what you can for Edu and move on.
     
  16. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People are so obsessed with not having players leave on a Bosman. I just don't get it. I would rather see a player leave for nothing than pay him millions to sit on the bench and watch. Paying non performing players as though they were superstars is what kills teams, not Bosmans.
     
  17. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    True. But's it's nice to get a return on your investment as it were.
     
  18. Arsenal_pwns_all

    Arsenal_pwns_all New Member

    Aug 13, 2004
    Edu's heart is not in Arsenal. End of story. What's the point of keeping him in Arsenal if that's his attitude? I don't see how he will be inspired to play well if we keep him.
    The truth is, he has attitude problems. Back last season when he was getting all the praises and has successful dislodged Gliberto to be in the starting XI, he become arrogant and lazy. After his wonder-goal against Celta, he started wildly shooting long distance shots at the goalpost whenever he had the chance. And his performance suffered as a result. I don't believe he will be a success if he plays in any other club; in Barca he'll be a bit-time player that will stop playing when the injured midfielders are back, and in Valencia he'll be another of Raneri's failure buys.
     
  19. oneforthemoney

    oneforthemoney BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Dec 6, 2004
    NYC
    Why is it the worst and which ones are better?
     
  20. Ruby_99

    Ruby_99 Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Pittsburgh, USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I feel that tribalfootball is VERY entertaining, but agree that most of the rumors are unfounded. Many are picked up from some of the less reputable spanish press, and usually not attributed to any source. I don't know why they have an Australian section, but not German or Dutch.

    Bigsoccer actually is a good source. Posters usually link to a news story, and other reply with assessments of accuracy or if a rumored transfer would be good for those involved. Many poor rumors are posted, but shot down quickly.
     
  21. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be honest, i can understand why Edu is holding out in his contract negotiations. He has reached the pinnacle of his career and the next contract he signs will be the last big payday of his career. He is on top of the world right now having just won the Premiership trophy and the Copa America. Last season he established himself as a firm second choice to Gilberto, and had a great year. This season he can claim to be a part of the Brazilian national team, but if he ends up on their world cup team in 2006, i will be surprised. He will be 27 at the end of this season, and if he gets a four year deal he will be 31 at the end of the contract. The money he makes now will be the most he will ever make. He needs to cash in and this is the time. With the emergence of Cesc and Flamini, its obvious that he has no long term future at Arsenal. Who can blame him for wanting to leave for a fat paycheck in Spain, even if it means he spends more time on the bench than on the pitch. It would be nice if he showed more loyalty to the club that made him who he is today, but its hard to blame him for being a professional and holding out for the best deal he can get. Even if he signed for Arsenal again, its likely that a year or two from now he would be featuring regularly for neither Arsenal nor Brazil, and who will want to sign him then. More likely Bolton than Barca.
     
  22. Riz

    Riz Member+

    Nov 18, 2004
    R-ville, Murrlin
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
  23. oneforthemoney

    oneforthemoney BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Dec 6, 2004
    NYC
  24. Bigpapa42

    Bigpapa42 Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    The Wastes of Canada
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This is beginning to look less likely that he will be back with Arsenal.
     

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