Saturday 2 March 12:30 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal Referee: Anthony Taylor Assistants: Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn Fourth official: Jonathan Moss AFC Bournemouth v Man City Referee: Kevin Friend Assistants: Matthew Wilkes, Adrian Holmes Fourth official: David Coote Brighton v Huddersfield Referee: Mike Dean Assistants: Darren Cann, Dan Robathan Fourth official: Simon Hooper Burnley v Crystal Palace Referee: Lee Probert Assistants: Simon Beck, Andy Garratt Fourth official: Robert Jones Man Utd v Southampton Referee: Stuart Attwell Assistants: Constantine Hatzidakis, Richard West Fourth official: Martin Atkinson Wolves v Cardiff Referee: Andre Marriner Assistants: Scott Ledger, Simon Long Fourth official: Peter Bankes 17:30 West Ham v Newcastle Referee: Chris Kavanagh Assistants: Daniel Cook, Simon Bennett Fourth official: Graham Scott Sunday 3 March 12:00 Watford v Leicester Referee: Jonathan Moss Assistants: Marc Perry, Andy Halliday Fourth official: Simon Hooper 14:05 Fulham v Chelsea Referee: Graham Scott Assistants: Mick McDonough, Neil Davies Fourth official: David Coote 16:15 Everton v Liverpool Referee: Martin Atkinson Assistants: Stephen Child, Lee Betts Fourth official: Paul Tierney Taylor for the London derby, Atkinson for the Merseyside derby, Scott for the other London derby. Dean in action despite controversy, and Moss also returns to the field after his EFL Cup Final duty.
I got a bit ahead with the last post... Tuesday 26 February Cardiff v Everton Referee: Kevin Friend Assistants: Matthew Wilkes, Adrian Holmes Fourth official: Andre Marriner Huddersfield v Wolves Referee: David Coote Assistants: Stephen Child, Neil Davies Fourth official: Martin Atkinson Leicester v Brighton Referee: Lee Probert Assistants: Simon Beck, Andy Garratt Fourth official: Simon Hooper 20:00 Newcastle v Burnley Referee: Craig Pawson Assistants: Ian Hussin, Eddie Smart Fourth official: Lee Mason Wednesday 27 February Arsenal v AFC Bournemouth Referee: Chris Kavanagh Assistants: Daniel Cook, Dan Robathan Fourth official: Jonathan Moss Southampton v Fulham Referee: Anthony Taylor Assistants: Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn Fourth official: Roger East 20:00 Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur Referee: Andre Marriner Assistants: Scott Ledger, Simon Long Fourth official: Kevin Friend 20:00 Crystal Palace v Man Utd Referee: Martin Atkinson Assistants: Lee Betts, Harry Lennard Fourth official: David Coote 20:00 Liverpool v Watford Referee: Graham Scott Assistants: Marc Perry, Mick McDonough Fourth official: Lee Mason 20:00 Man City v West Ham Referee: Stuart Attwell Assistants: Stuart Burt, Constantine Hatzidakis Fourth official: Mike Dean Marriner for the London derby, Atkinson with an interesting match. Scott and Attwell in charge of title contenders.
Actually, Chelsea owner not nearly involved as he used to be. Hasn’t been to a match all season after a visa renewal disaster.
as a non referee I have a question - it is clear after watching several replays of the Trippier goal yesterday that Lloris recognized the danger and dashed out to cut down the angle, but being the instinctive goal scorer he is KT coolly slotted the ball home without even looking up.. My question - if Lloris was a couple of steps quicker and actually got to Trippier and brought him down - does he get sent off for DOGSO?
Don't think he needs to be in the stadium or in the country to make executive decisions regarding a club he owns? Because telephones. I think even the most casual observer knows hes one of the most involved owners in the league.
What a rough day for a white badge in London today, and his crew. Not one but two wrong penalties awarded, and then an encroachment (by a wide, wide margin) ignored and of course the player who encroached makes a game saving tackle. I thought earlier in the match that Anthony Taylor was not up for the match, and he was let down by one of his AR’s, too.
I’m not a spud or goon supporter. But the Harry Kane challenge was clear as day. I do agree the arsenal PK Taylor got conned. I’m more concerned he missed the Harry Kane tackle about 10 mins before the arsenal goal. Studs exposed, high tackle, from behind, little ability to make a fair play on the ball. As for the AR’s which incident you talk about. The Harry Kane goal called back looked offside. And the commentators said that they reviewed and it was offside although, very close. Sorta disappointed the Nbcsn halftime people didn’t go back and show it.
1101914399588212736 is not a valid tweet id earlier harry Kane tackle. Standard operating procedure for premier league though.
I could swear I've seen PKs called in MLS and then waived off after VAR because they determine there was an offside infringement. As an Atlanta United supporter, I seem to recall it happening in one of our playoff matches this season. Were the circumstances different? I realize that's difficult to discern when I can't give you specific example, but I'm all ear (eyes) if someone knows what I'm talking about.
If there’s actually an offside infringement, then yes. Wasn’t there a big one with NYCFC in the playoffs (was that against Atlanta?)? Infringement is the operative word, though. Offside position does not equate to offside offence. The LOTG language above is key. If a foul leading to a penalty occurs before a player in an offside position becomes involved, it’s a penalty.
AR made a good offside call when the cross deflected off a defender and went to an offside player. On the replay, the analyst says "but the ball went backwards". Sigh.
Sure and I think the NYCFC situation is, in fact, the play I'm recalling. I guess it raises the question what does "becomes involved" entail?
The past is not quarantined here; you can readily search out the many extended (and frequently redundant) discussions of that very topic.
I have no doubt. Forgot the rule that things are to be discussed on BigSoccer once and only once, well, maybe twice.
The number of paragraphs written on this forum relating to the nuances of the offside law are probably over a 1000. Was Kane challenging an opponent for the ball before he was fouled? I don't think so. And that's not me being a biased Spurs fan. That's from the multiple examples given by FIFA, UEFA, and PRO over the years. To be challenging an opponent for the ball, the ball needs to be within playing distance.
That's fine. And I'm not an Arsenal supporter railing in a ref forum in order to vent. Rather, actually trying to understand the exact rule.
And I wasn't trying to be snappish. Your question was a good one; I was just letting you know that there's a lot to be learned here on that particular topic, just for the looking.
I lurk here often, so I've probably read threads on the topic before. But similar to the way I have to -- say -- refresh my recollection on certain legal topics if I haven't researched them in a while, I have to do the same for something like this that --- while not rare --- isn't an every day occurrence in matches. No worries, regardless. Seems to still be some dispute about this amongst current and former refs. http://www.espn.com/soccer/english-...ffside-before-winning-penalty-against-arsenal