Copa Libertadores 2018

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  1. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Why are you even discussing coaches careers as players?

    Many of history best coaches didn't have decent player careers.
     
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  2. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Vampeta was a party animal too. Maybe that's why he's ahead of Messi in NT titles.
     
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  3. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
     
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  4. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'm assuming it comes down to profits... if the superclasico is played on a Saturday, no one will pay attention to the weekend league games -- meaning a loss of money for the league.

    If it's played on Wednesday as originally scheduled, then people will tune in to both the Libertadores and Primera.

    The "respecting the Jewish community" comment is a good, politically correct excuse to make, though.
     
  5. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Shhh, you're going to kill the argument that anything and anyone Brazilian is automatically superior to everything else. Play along bro
     
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  6. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Well ... it's a non debate. Gallardo was not even better than Vampeta as Gallardo scored 1 goal against us and Vampeta has 2 against you. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  7. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    AcesHigh is a bit delusional at this point.

    The first goal of River isn't a clear handball AT ALL (and thats why VAR wasn't called dude!) and it's a laughable argument that the coach giving a half-time talk is the same as fielding a suspended player a la Santos (and more importantly the rules don't say anything specific about coaches ignoring bans ending in opponent teams being awarded matches).

    Gremio is losing this appeal 99,9% sure.
     
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  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Palmeiras > Gremio
     
  9. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, Vampeta was much better than Renato.
     
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  10. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well it's CONMEBOL... nothing would be surprising at this point, so Gremio still has hope incredibly enough. As long as the appeal is open, anything goes.

    Still, it would be absolutely ridiculous if they eliminate a team off the basis of a coach interacting with his own players. The Brazilians should be completely embarrassed to play the final if it actually comes down to that.

    As for River, if we play the final (as we should) I'm expecting Gallardo to miss out on both legs, unfortunately.
     
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  11. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think they are perfectly within their rights as lame as it may be in a way. More embarassing is what Gallardo did specially boasting about it.
     
  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    For Guillermo and Muñeco Haters:

    Par de cracks

     
  13. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    you little imbecile, where is the dignity of Gallardo ON PURPOSE breaking the rules of his punishment, pass instructions all the time on radio to the assistant, go to the dressing room on the interval, which was CLEARLY important as Pratto himself said in interview, and then BOAST about it?

    You retards think breaking the rules on purpose is quite magnanimous it seems.

    and look at all these argies agreeing with you. Even the Boca fan. Of course, they want a Boca x River final.



    Do you want dignitiy?

    Why don´t you ********tards answer what I said? Boca ALREADY declared champion, Grêmio eliminated on the field and River eliminated for BREAKING THE RULES ON PURPOSE.


    That would be dignity. But you DONT EVEN MENTION that, because you are ********ing liars who don´t really care about dignity.

    look what an imbecile these argentine moderators are. This is why I lost respect for BigSoccer and barely post here anymore. This is one of the worst forums on the web.


    you post this photo of someone crying and FORGET that my post is about BOTH TEAMS being eliminated, which would be a fair result.

    so who is crying here? I am asking about justice. Real justice.

    While you low character argentines are mocking because you broke the rules and think its very cool and funny.



    good, my state here on the border has ALWAYS had a mindset of war against the platenses.

    I could care LESS about bad blood on River's towards Grêmio. They broke the rules, ******** this piece of shit team.


    The only laughable argument is SUPPORTING breaking the rules of a punishment because "well, they can't punish more severely than that".

    Another laughable argument is saying that coaches do not directly influence the result of a match. If they did not, Gallardo would not go all this trouble to do what he did.

    Another laughable? To say that a coach does not influence a match as much as fielding a suspended player, when in fact, just having the player on the bench, even if you do not use him, may make you lose 3 points, and that is MUCH LESS INFLUENCE than a coach talking with the assistant and going to the dressing room in the interval.

    If CONMEBOL doesn´t do nothing, they will open precedents for more clubs to do the SAME thing.

    But then it's CONMEBOL. They ARE a laughable organization KNOWN for screwing up AND doing the wrong things.



    I will repeat again: if depended on me, Boca Juniors would be crowned champion ALREADY. Grêmio would be eliminated because of the field result. And River Plate MUST be eliminated for their purposeful breaking of the rules.
     
  14. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    you are a pathetic idiot. YOU are the ********tards who should be ashamed of breaking the rules like you did and play the final.

    but then, you are River fans. And Argentines. Do you even know shame? No. Scum.
     
  15. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    and just to show how CONMEBOL is a corrupt organization, they changed THIS NIGHT the data of the trial to Friday morning (tomorrow). There is already a River lawyer at Assuncion, Grêmio will have to scramble to be able to get its lawyers etc to Assuncion tomorrow morning, AND we won´t be able to take a key witness, a member of the FIFA Disciplinary Tribunal would would talk how FIFA deals with attitudes such as that of Gallardo.

    corrupt. Just like Argentines.
     
  16. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn calm down. You act like Gremio has never won a Libertadores or something, when they are the defending champs. No need for that level of salt.
     
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  17. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'm having a hard time trying to figure out who he voted for... :unsure:
     
  18. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  19. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  20. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There's a term for this.. I think the acronym is LTA.
     
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  21. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    dirty CONMEBOL and dirty argentines.

    "NO PARAGUAI

    Os detalhes do aviso da Conmebol que antecipou o julgamento do caso envolvendo Grêmio x River

    Funcionário da entidade enviou e-mail aos dirigentes do Grêmio às 20h20min desta quinta-feira (1º)
    01/11/2018 - 23h51min
    Atualizada em 01/11/2018 - 23h56min

    A notícia da antecipação do julgamento do recurso do Grêmio na Conmebol no caso Gallardo já é absolutamente surpreendente, já que os dirigentes tricolores receberam exatamente às 20h20min de quinta-feira (1º) o aviso de que o Tribunal de Disciplina fará a avaliação do que vai acontecer às 11h de sexta-feira (2), e não às 13h30min de sábado (3), como estava anteriormente marcado.

    Mas o que chama a atenção e torna o caso inusitado é a maneira como a Conmebol avisou o Grêmio. Um funcionário da entidade enviou um e-mail para um dirigente do clube gaúcho com o comunicado.

    Nada de ligação ou um contato mais próximo. Apenas o e-mail. Por sorte, o dirigente viu imediatamente a mensagem e acionou os colegas.

    Rapidamente o clube conseguiu um jato particular para mandar os seus advogados às 7h de sexta-feira para Assunção. Sem o voo fretado, o Grêmio não teria a possibilidade de apresentação presencial dos seus argumentos.

    Isso que a Conembol, na metade de agosto, reuniu os quatro semifinalistas da Libertadores e fez o convite para que todos assinassem um compromisso pelo Fair Play. O chamado Jogo Limpo, que a própria entidade não cumpre."
     
  22. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    CONMEBOL warns Gremio at 20:20, by EMAIL, that the audience has been altered to Friday at 11:00.
    by luck there was an employee that caught the email before leaving the office.

    no phone call, nothing.

    By airliners it would be impossible. Grêmio needed a private jet to be able to arrive at Assuncion on time.

    River Plate lawyers, in a weird way, were already in Assuncion today afternoon.

    DIRTY TACTICS at the match. DIRTY TACTICS at justice. This is Argentine football. This is CONMEBOL.

     
  23. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    CONMEBOL continues to be a joke :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    They really need to rot.

    To be fair, I don't think any proof needs to be presented. All Gremio can do is talk about how a coach can influence the game. And there is no precedence for this. So they can lay down whatever punishment they want.
     
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  24. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The words of celso cardoso:

    Screenshot_20181102-063741_Chrome.jpg
     
  25. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think they could just keep Gallardo from entering the stadium in one of the games in the final. Although that does nothing for Grêmio and only helps Boca.
     
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