3rd colombia Goal Scorer was Michael Bradley's man.

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by #1 Feilhaber and Adu, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    what you just did here with this post is (on purpose), try to create an alternative narrative. As evidenced by the video in post #6, Delgado made a dead sprint the entire play. At no time was Delgado ever jogging.
     
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  2. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    if a player in front of you jogs, of coarse you will score on the counter.
     
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  3. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    On the first Colombia goal, everyone seems to want the CB (Brooks) to charge out and close James. By why would he do that when our DM (Bradley) is standing two yards in front of him? Bradley seems to be more worried about what everyone else is doing than just doing something.
     
  4. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
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    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have nothing to benefit from “changing” the narrative. Yes, Delgado was jogging around centerfield. Which was understandable because he, like Bradley and I’m sure Acosta was expecting more from that 2v1 situation.

    You created this thread around a narrative. I’m sorry that objectively it simply doesn’t fit that narrative.
     
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  5. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    A) and we know this? how?

    B) If you say so.

    C) Acosta and Delgado sprint, Bradley jogs. Lets not target people who actually tried.

    D) Here is an even more extended video, which shows Bradley targeting Robinson for his error. the captain who jogs himself and then blames his younger teammate. Great Leadership. Explain that one.


     
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  6. tyguy

    tyguy Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    Cheeseland
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To his credit, Bradly did speed up at the end when it looks like he noticed that the other two US players were running past him.
     
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  7. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
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    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He looks pissed off. That’s the explanation. Other than seeing how much faster Acosta and Delgado are compared to Bradley - I’m not sure what else there is to see.

    When I screwed up on the field my captains in time didn’t give me a back rub or participation ribbon. It was usually a verbal whipping. You think if Robinson pulled that in the premiership his captain would embrace him with less vitriol?

    At some point this is high stakes, professional soccer and in a competitive environment you’ll see that.

    What I think you are presuming here is that Bradley is incapable of self reflecting on his own partial responsibility for the sequence. Therefore, for him to upset with Robinson is hypocritical because somehow Bradley had a way to change that outcome through his own decisions. I’m not sure Bradley, even at full sprint, was making a huge difference the more I see this GIF and rewatch online.

    Maybe Adams could have, but I’m skeptical.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let’s get at the first part of his post that you bolded. It seems that you’re questioning whether or not neems benefits from changin the narrative.

    Can you explain that further?
     
  9. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    #33 #1 Feilhaber and Adu, Oct 13, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2018
    Excuses.

    Nice try.

    Jogs then is upset at his teammates.

    cant wait for ESPN narrative on what a leader he is for the upcoming game.
     
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  10. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007

    [​IMG]


    that's Dan Flynn CEO/General Secretary of USsoccer (2nd from left) and Don Garber current MLS commissioner and CEO of SUM (2nd from right).
     
  11. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    He sped up when he realized the man who just blew by him into space was wide open for the pass.... I am more concerned about such an "experienced" player having a lack of awareness of his surroundings (he then could have anticipated the run and at least had a chance to disrupt the pass ) than his laziness.
     
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  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
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  13. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
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  14. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Soros pays me to post on BS, btw.
     
  15. Soccer888

    Soccer888 Red Card

    Mar 28, 2011
    #39 Soccer888, Oct 14, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2018
    I must say, he or she (feilhaber/adu) does post a lot / creates many threads on the current situation and you two love duking it out (sometimes it almost seems like you guys are having fun) but I was looking at a lot of his posts and a lot of the stuff he posted that looks to be, reaching, actually turned out be correct. And that's the frightening part.

    some of the extremely reaching ideas for example that he posted are that Michael Bradley will be named Captain once he returns and play 90 minutes after being away from the team for such a long period even though he did not earn it. He actually turned out to be 100% percent correct on this and again to me that is extremely frightening and does not bode well for USSF.

    Don Garber and Dan Flynn are the highest soccer executives in this country, due to the roles they have, they will be in constant contact with media executives and have a business relationship. The media executives will want to maintain this relationship for their end of the spectrum. Its the media executives that bid for the packages.

    Its actually not that far-fetched at all to suggest that the Soccer executives and the sports media executives had a talk on how to handle the Michael Bradley situation. Not only was I at the game, but I recorded it, and I did notice that there was a very- timely orchestrated plot to promote Michael Bradley's leadership and his importance to this team on Foxsports1. You don't even have to be a smart person to recognize this.

    So what I noticed is Feilhaber/Adu seems to be desperately trying to post a lot about whats going on (maybe he knows someone on the inside and what the team really feels? so he is essentially what the gutless media soccer writers aren't, a voice of factual criticism) and on the opposite side your desperately trying to counter his posts in every thread for some reason.

    I don't want to enter this boxing match, so hopefully my post is just viewed as a friendly opinion.
     
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  16. 70runner

    70runner Member

    Jun 21, 2007
    That's the point, isn't it? Bradley at "full sprint" is unable to make a difference against talented players. Time to pasture this guy, move on from the lion of backpassing. Play the kids, let them learn and grow from mistakes. Bradley is well beyond ANY learning.

    First job of the new coach: remove the armband from Bradley, then remove Bradley.
     
  17. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
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    U.S. goes a full calendar year without giving up more than 2 goals or having a disappointing loss to anyone. Bradley comes back, they give up 4 goals. Hmmm [​IMG]

    8:08 PM - 11 Oct 2018
     
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  18. GONATS

    GONATS Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    Atlanta
    I think it is fair to criticize MB while also recognizing his past accomplishments. His first year or so, he was a bit of a liability who seemed only a play away from a stupid foul near or inside our own box to give away the game. Then he improved, and for about 8 years, was one of the best midfielders to ever play for the national team. I think that was still the case after he returned to MLS. Heck, I think he was still one of our best 6-8 players through the last qualifying cycle.

    All that said, since about the end of this year's CONCACAF Champions League final (where he was great), he has since been slow and sloppy. If we are healthy and have guys like McKennie and Adams healthy, I don't think he should see the field. At this point even a guy like Acosta may be superior, or at least a better investment for the future.

    To further frustrate the problem, he is a hard guy to bring into the roster but not start. Given that, at least until he earns it by again being a top performer in MLS (which he may never), I am fine saying thank you very very much for your service, but it is time to move on.
     
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  19. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #43 adam tash, Oct 15, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2018
    List of MLSers who have RECENTLY played as center mids right in front of a backline (most of them in a 4-2-3-1 as part of the "2"):

    1. Canouse
    2. Nguyen
    3. Nagbe
    4. Feilhaber
    5. Durkin
    6. Lletget
    7. Tyler Adams
    8. Sean Davis
    9. Trapp
    That's just off the top of my head, there are others!! (doesnt even include players like morales, hyndman, danny williams, roldan, delgado, etc who are currently playing center mid at an arguably higher/equal level than bradley at the moment)

    Personally, I think all of these players are better RIGHT NOW than Bradley for the USMNT. Who cares what MB did 10 years ago?????? RIGHT NOW, he's decent in possession but a sloth that bogs down the team and keeps it on the backfoot and offers little resistance defensively...all in the name of "leadership"...

    How anyone could watch MB and the SUMNT vs Colombia and - given all of these other options - think that Bradley should be on the field is insane, imo.
     
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  20. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007

    would be more surprising if Gaber named his dog after the Bradley's.
     
  21. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Delgado is a wimp. Hack that guy down, pull him back, take an f'ing card. Read the play! It doesn't take a genius to see that the guy 2 feet in front of you is in prime position to score. I guarantee an international defender from some of our neighboring countries would have two cleated Pulisic from behind in that instance if given the chance.
     
  22. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    For all the justified complaints about players not getting back, we also have to remember that Robinson should have won that lofted ball instead of letting it bounce around in the first place. The other guys just poorly (and yes in Bradley's case, not at all) tried to cover for this mistake.
     
  23. saxman

    saxman Member

    Nov 12, 2005
    Frederick,Maryland
    The problem is that Bradley waited until the Columbia player went burning past him before he made any real effort. Then it was too late no matter what he did.
     
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  24. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Maybe part of why A. Robinson looked so bad was his central midfield left side partner was MB90 that cant go 90 anymore.

    If MB90 had made a decent recovery run instead of jogging we would of only lost 3-2.
     
  25. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    The first ball too. We are up on a set piece late in the game. Grab a shirt, hold on till help arrives or you're called.

    It is one of the weakest parts of our game. Too many late game goals scored because we are unwilling to stop the run of play.

    We need Cobi Jones!
     
  26. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need the other Jones IMHO. Jermaine would have scythed Falcao down at midfield and then taken off and looked for another player to grab.
     

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