Rob Stone: US Manager shortlist is Ramos, Tata Martino, Marsch, Berhalter, Friedel, Osorio & Vermes.

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is literally half the game.
     
  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The most important half, too. A good attack without a decent defense is useless, the attackers get cut from the midfield, that has to track back to help the weak defense. A good defense without a decent attack can at least go for the 0-0.
     
  3. Captain10

    Captain10 Member

    Jul 26, 2000
    Marietta, GA
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tata would be good, Ramos if necessary, but PLEASE none of the other coaches mentioned - especially Osorio. Why would we want a foul-mouthed coach blasting obscenities directly in a referee's ear like he has done multiple times. We should demand better qualities in a USMNT coach than that.

    Also, please no American coaches -- We've had too much of Arena and Bradley already. Those coaches have shown that they get too close to their 'favorites' and can't evaluate their play objectively enough to bench them or not call them in to begin with. Their in-game adjustments many times don't make sense, and their teams are too predictable with no creativity and only play in 3rd gear the whole game.

    Let's get someone who can bring new ideas and excitement to a young group of hungry and talented players. The notion that the coach needs to understand the 'American player' is just an excuse for coddling players instead of holding them accountable. Do Pulisic, Bobby Wood, Weah, etc need to be 'understood' on their teams in Europe? No.

    Just ... play ... ball ...
     
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  4. Pragidealist

    Pragidealist Member+

    Mar 3, 2010
    A third - there are three phases - not two. Defense, transition, and attacking. Most forget that. Attacking is actually only a third ... the transition game is often the most overlooked
     
  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Well, if your defenders suck, your transition is limited to hoofing balls and hope someone runs fast enough.
     
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  6. Pragidealist

    Pragidealist Member+

    Mar 3, 2010
    Often a defense can look horrible bc the back line can’t help get possession and start attacks. Not letting them score is only part is their job ..
     
  7. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since the GM is a meaningless position right now, and its the same people making the calls, sure why not. There is never a meaningless year when you are trying to build a team. It's not like Berhalter would have said no a year ago. But Im mucn more focused on the youth/scouting program as a whole, where Earnie has zero input and there has been very little done.
     
  8. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    Well there was that one time, with that goal by this guy:

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  9. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Didn't want to mention that, but since I was actually there on the day... glad you did. But truth told, that was not as good a Colombian team. Those guys a few days ago were clinical. ouch.
     
  10. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    Actually, that '94 Colombia team was supposed to be a lot better than this current team, and one of the favorites to win that World Cup after pushing Argentina to the brink of elimination with their 5-0 win in the crucial last qualifier in Buenos Aires. See:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina_v_Colombia_(1994_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification)

    Oh yeah, I was at the Rose Bowl that afternoon too.
     
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  11. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    The worries about his tactic is, even though he makes the average CF productive, but on the other side the entire team goal scoring record is below average. This season Crew is the second less goal scoring team in entire league, only better than Colorado Rapid.
     
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  12. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    It may have had more ability than the current squad - but the death threats aimed at them and their families most likely impacted their form significantly.
     
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  13. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Thats true, but you have to consider that for most of the year he's been working with completely ineffective wingers. Prior to reacquiring Meram, Columbus might've had the worst starting wingers in MLS.
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if you want to define it that way, sure.

    You could also define defense as defense in transition AND set defense.

    Splitters vs. lumbers, the eternal dilemma. ;)
     
  15. Pragidealist

    Pragidealist Member+

    Mar 3, 2010
    I didn’t define it that way. Most coaching courses, analysts and materials do. It’s pretty standard
     
  16. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I'm not sure if you are disagreeing with my view of priority of results or assessment of our 2016 performance. I think you could also be mixing performances and results.

    The Copa Centenario was 5 strong performances with a poor one. The poor one was against a top team while missing 3 starters, one of which was probably the most important player for our team.

    It was definitely at least tied for our best results at a Copa. Let me know if you are aware of another one where we put in 5+ strong performances.
     
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  17. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I think the problem is your narrow minded views of the game. Head coaches can delegate whatever tasks he wants to assistants. I only mentioned Henry delegating one task. Not sure how you could come to any conclusion based on that.

    Dont worry. Silly Monaco hired him.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45848579
     
  18. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who was the Sporting Director who acquired, selected and designed a scheme that placed those "ineffective wingers" on the field?
     
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  19. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    They are being very thorough!!!!

    Sarachan will be considered
    Interim manager Dave Sarachan is being considered, sources tell CBS Sports. But it doesn't really feel like he has a fair chance to get the job. He has head coaching experience with the Chicago Fire and has done well introducing young up-and-coming stars to the national team as the interim boss. Stewart has had a chance to look at Sarachan up close and is certainly being evaluated, but it's unlikely he ultimately gets the offer.

    https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/ne...arachan-being-considered-as-interviews-begin/
     
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  20. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, that reporter must have a crush on Sarachan. He seems a decent guy but anyone who follows MLS knows he hasn't been a head coach in ages so why would being a default caretaker after Ramos declined that role be considered at all?
     
  21. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    That sure is one literal perspective.

    Another would be that we are so poor offensively that we spend literally 70% of the game defending.

    It is also significantly more challenging to develop offensive abilitiies than defensive ones and think all top players have spent more time in their careers practicing offensive skills.
     
  22. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Berhalter. He’s being hired to coach a NT, not build a club team. I think the tactical side of what he brings and getting a lot out of a team with average talent should fit well with our NT.
     
  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Perhaps they were supposed to be, but when the rubber hit the road, they were not up to the hype that year, for whatever reason. Colombia the other day was clinical and extremely well coached.
     
  24. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    This me every week after the first month ended on the coach search.

     
  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    They don't threaten Higuaín.

    Imagine how happy you will be with Berhalter, the "un-Sarachan"
     

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