Post-match: San Jose Earthquakes - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (Saturday, 8/25) postgame thread [R]

Why don't we just focus this season on making sure Wondo breaks the all time goal scorer record? He is more than capable of doing that, given more time on the field and some good service.

I don't give a sh*t if we don't make the playoff, but I want to make sure we know Landon Donovan off the top as goal scorer. He just needs 4 goals.

Hey Quakes management, I'll come back for the game where Wondo is on the cusp of breaking that record.

 

You're from Buffalo, Don. We cannot take your apologies seriously

 

He would have already broken that record TONIGHT if it weren't for Magnus taking all the damn PKs in his stead..

 

Appreciate that Mod. Sorry, my anger got the best of me. I got to try better to not let this pathetic team affect how I deal with other fans on here--we're all suffering just the same

 

I said "willing to defend"... just repeating that you're standing by this laughably incompetent regime may say something about you, but it's not really much of a defense...

 

The season will be over in two months. Personnel decision should be made dispassionately in the offseason, not late at night in the heat of defeat. Firing the coach, and/or the GM and/or the team president on Monday morning will not accomplish anything.

 

Hey at least we're getting some national attention... no publicity is bad publicity, right??

I've noted before that sometimes one image can encapsulate an entire game. And every now and then one sums up a whole season. As in, here's the 2018 San Jose Earthquakes: pic.twitter.com/Zav1Ivxy7C

— Charles Boehm (@cboehm) August 26, 2018

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With their first SuperDraft pick next year San Jose should select a new coach.

— Matthew Doyle (@MattDoyle76) August 26, 2018

yes

— Matthew Doyle (@MattDoyle76) August 26, 2018

 

I didn't suggest firing the GM or President before the end of the season:

Stahre at minimum, probably both Stahre and Jesse, and possibly even all three of Stahre/Jesse/Fox, should be fired... Stahre immediately and the others at the end of the season...​

But plenty of coaches get fired during the season, they could give some potential candidate from within the organization (eg Ian Russell, Steve Ralston, or Leitch again) a shot at the job for a few months.

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Stahre:

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Fans:

So many people just casually walking behind the stands, not a care in the world, no urgency to watch the game, and not even casting a cursory glance. Weird. #SJvVAN

— AFTN (@aftncanada) August 26, 2018

Sounds like the fans are moo’n here at Avaya... no wait that’s boo’n. #SJvVAN

— Earthquakes on NBCS (@NBCSQuakes) August 26, 2018

Wondo:

Wondolowski on tonight's #SJvVAN: "I thought I was in rock-bottom before. I found it again."

These are the words coming from a player that is only FIVE goals from becoming @MLS' all-time leading goalscorer. Unreal. #Quakes74

— Joel Soria (@soriajoelfutbol) August 26, 2018

 

I was on the right side of their section with my 5 year old. Some drunk douche ran by us pushing my kid and went in front of their section flipping off all of them and cussing them out. They handled him and kicked him out.

 

I'm starting to miss Kinnear.

 

I’d settle for Laurie Calloway. This is ridiculous!

 

Here's more flame to the fire -- I wonder if this means anything, coming from Wondo's former Quakes brother?

He has the worst post game interviews! Be better Stahre!! Unacceptable!

— Stephen Wondolowski (@sjwondolowski) August 26, 2018

 

FYI, one of the local reporters this past week quoted 2 players as saying that the Quakes did not make the playoffs.
So it would appear that inside the club, it is already an accepted fact, no IF about it.

 

How can they make the playoffs with this club and why would anyone want to see it? So they can lose 7-0 instead of 5-0?

 

From a strategic or tactical sense, that is correct. However, what firing the coach now WOULD do is to demonstrate that our ownership/management DO feel some sense of responsibility and accountability to the fans for the absolutely shambolic clusterfvck of this season.

 

firing the coach would accomplish many things:
1 - would be nice to know if players are disaffected with the team as a whole or just the coach (which players respond)
2 - the team needs a fresh pair of eyes.
3 - fans need a sign that management sees what they are seeing
4 - we and the players would no longer be exposed to the humiliating on field meetings after losses

 

They already fired him as the youth coach. Not sure if it was Doyle though. They could make Wondo their new player/ coach though...

 

The problem with this approach is that you are basically telling every other player on the team and that you don't care about them if you cater to one player like this.

The Giants did this with Barry Bonds toward the end of his career, and while Bonds is probably the best hitter of all time, those teams he played for in those years absolutely sucked.

Plus, there's no guarantee that he breaks the record this year, and if he doesn't do they do the same thing next year? Who would want to play for a team like that?

This team is run poorly enough as it is. Becoming the Wondolowski instead of the Earthquakes would be a disaster. I don't think his teammates would want to celebrate with him knowing they were all thrown under the bus for a record that they have no claim to.

 

Well sure. It's a practical impossibility. The players would have to be idiots to think they would have a chance to make it.

I think the team should just fire the coaching staff and play without one for the rest of the season. There's nothing to play for, so they might as well play for themselves. Let the Marcinowski be responsible for telling the ref to sub and that kind of thing and just run it by player committee.

It would be an interesting experiment and things can't get worse, so I'd rather see that than the constant stupid looks on Stahre's face.

 

RE: Wondo, I agree except that the people playing ahead of him are not proving to be better than him.

 

Not to pick on this too much, but what made me call out Vako first was because I expect his touch to be better. We paid a couple million for this guy, and each year he's getting 1.5 million in salary. So when his game is bad, I wonder why we're not just dumping all of our payroll and starting from scratch with a bunch of South American attackers, like a West Coast version of ATL.

Godoy's always had a donkey touch. He's never been a great dribbler either. His strengths are that he's a big, athletic body that covers a lot of ground and tackles hard. His passing is... passable.

Felipe's game was poor too. Gave away the FK that led to the goal, off of nothing, just kicking Reyna down out of nowhere. Could not seem to understand that the backline needed one more outlet to pass to aside from Godoy, and so was not helping to break Vancouver's pressure.

There are soooo many wrong things with this team, it's silly to blame any one player too much. Although, if we're going to go with one, Tarbell would be a good choice. He's a poor-to-mediocre GK at best, and what's more he's not being set up to achieve even his admittedly low ceiling. His teammates around him are mostly poor at showing for the ball, make dangerous/poor backpasses, and the insistence of playing out of the back with a GK who's terrible with his feet..... The only words I can think of are terrible ideas, terribly executed.

 

Tarbell did bail the team out more than once in that game. Putting any blame on him for this disaster is pretty harsh. The wall completely fails on the first goal, and the other two were caused by horrible giveaways in dangerous areas. Tarbell doesn't control that.

I'm not saying the guy is a great goalkeeper, but he is a very small part of a problem that is fundamentally about how the team is structured and instructed to play.

 

The only team I have left in the Bay Area, and this is what I get. Everything happens for a reason I suppose...

 

@16:45 We're the laughing stock of MLS. Thanks Jesse.

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