http://www.**********************.com/php/boards/index.php?showtopic=3356 From the Metrofanatic.com boards....... Hmmm, there is a petition to can Nick and now this. Will MFO even respond on these boards or the other ones?
So the MFO wants to kill off the ESC, the only Metro supporters club left..... well after La Doce was killed off.....
Dear ESC. This message comes from an "old" friend, or enemy. How ever you would like to see it, it depends... But tonight I come in peace. As many if not ALL of you know LA12 Descontrolada NO LONGER EXSITS, thanks to the black hand of Nick the idiot, and Ernesto Motta, the man in charge of spanish relations, some relations with hispanics,... But in recent events I decide to post here for 1 reason, TO FINALLY END this nonsense that is Nick and MFO... We have been gone since 2001, and we have seen this team tank to a point of no return, OFF THE FIELD, because on it's En las buenas y las malas, in the good and in the bad!!! But now I come to my point... NICK IS DOING THE SAME THING TO THE ESC HE DID TO LA 12... This Metro OFFICAL supporters club, was the same nonsense Nick told us, LA12 when we went to his office and held our meeting with the FO in 2000 to obtain our privalges we recieved by Charlie... He said (at that time) The ESC was and is the ONLY METROS SUPPORTS CLUB, and since we are not the true and offical ones there was nothing he could do.. That's what he told us... Funny how life is, it was the beging of the end, soon Nick made it his bussiness to see LA12 be thrown out of the Stadium, and one very faithful night in early 2001 after the Bayern Munich game he told us PERSONALLY NOT TO RETURN... Ernesto, the man of wisdom when it comes to spanish relations had the gaw to call Spanish speaking members of our group and re lay the message, IN SPANISH!!! And that was the end of the Orginal LA12.. After that some other fans tried to keep the group alive but with the Hardcore members told to vanish, the group basically are now ESC members, what ever is left of them... THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR. 1- Future calls of people who have dealt with the ESC from MFO to ask for a account of who your members are by name. Trust me they have all the top guys running the ESC because the NJSEA has pictures of EVERYONE IN 101, as they did LA12. (They take pictures of everyone with the fancy interpol cameras placed at Giants stadium for the 1994 world cup.) DON'T GIVE THEM S&&^!!! 2- Banners, a major NO NO... Nick will have them brought down once you have them put up. His Flunkies are the ones who stand in Front of 101, looking for "negative" banners to take down. (example: we could no long bring the Che flag after 1999 because he was "a bad person" in one of Nick's flunkies words.. The people who bring those banners, just like in our case will be signaled out and later be thrown out of the stadium for ANYTHING they do... 3- Security will become metro's best friends. Trust me these boards and the pictures of everyone from files will be used to signal out the "trouble makers", our old web page was used by nick to take out the heads of our group as well as the ones who might take over... TRUST ME MOST OF YOU ARE IDENTIFIED AND THEY WILL THROW YOU OUT! Some may ask well why now and NOT all those other times I bad mouth him. Because NICK has seen the power of the fans... The petition must of set him off... And since it worked with Charlie why not him? Unfortunitly he has a great example of how to deal with the trouble makers, AKA- LA12.... 4- DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE WE MADE. We relied on the players to help us out in our hour of need, only getting support from Ammann and Tab Ramos, and Steve Jolly... Most of them will NOT get involved in the affair... 5- Keep fighting ESC.... Do what we did take it to the press, the banners are a good idea but have to be done in a better way... If let's say ALL the ESC members bring signs it would be to obivious and he can't do nothing.... The petition hopefully will work. Nick is the reason for the MFO disaster, he lied to the fans, and now to the most Loyal, the ESC he is going to betray them, I know I will be the 1st to admit LA 12 was anything but Loyal to metro. But it didn't mean they had a right to get rid of us... NICK IS THE REASON FOR THIS MESS... FIRE NICK! FIRE NICK I SAY!!!!!! Good luck ESC aganist Scumbags like Nick you'll need all the help you can get... OH AND NICK because I know your reading, As you can see we are gone but NEVER forgotten... And MARK THESE WORDS VERY WELL, Revenge is a dish best served cold... Your good friend, or enemy, take your pick. LA12 Descontrolada.... PS- Hopefully someone one day will create another Spanish group or we'll see Enough Spanish people again at that stadium, but UNTIL NICK IS GONE... NICK ONLY CARES ABOUT HIS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and not the Metro's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And could care less for the fans..... FIRE THAT SCUMBAG NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all, Thank You to La Doce for their comments, their concern for our situation and for taking the time to post. While this is neither the time nor the place to address all of the issues that have come up over the last six weeks, one or two specific items need to be made clear. The ESC is not behind any petition to dismiss members of managment, nor has it taken a public position regarding individual members of the front office or any rumored plans for an additional supporter's club. Any communication from the ESC, on-line or off, will clearly be labled as such. Internet posts, letters to management, petitions, etc are the sole view of the authors of that communication, nothing more or less. The goal of the ESC is to passionately support our team. There is no "else" to what we do. We exist to stand, sing and show our passion to the players, because we believe that is what true supporters are supposed to do. While there can be no doubt that many fans of the team, ESC members and non-members alike, are not satisfied with the current state of affairs, as the oldest supporter's club in MLS it is our intention to conduct ourselves in an appropriate and professional manner, because that is how we wish to be treated. At times, the interests of the team and club are aligned. At other times they are not. When there are grievances to be aired or issues to be discussed, they are done so in private conversations between the people on both sides responsible for the relationship. The ESC does this because we feel that it is to the benefit of both parties to have an honest and productive exchange of ideas, something that cannot happen in the anonymity of an internet enviroment. Regardless of how we are treated or how we perceive ourselves to be treated by the front office, it is our intetion in each of our communications with them to maintain a standard of behavior of which we can be proud. There is no other comment to make at this time, other than to say that we appreciate the support of our members, that we are working on our efforts for 2005, and that we preparing to again work to give our team the best support possible. Thank you for your time.
Man, this is a very wishy washy stance. Pretty weak supports club if all your gonna do is stand up and clap like seals. I was interested in joining. Part of me still is actually. I didn't realize the club was just a politically correct jerk fest though.
BACK FROM THE DEAD sounds like a lot of nonsense. Why hide behind a new name? Stand up & be counted, or be thought just another attack on Nick (not than I'm a fan of his). By the way, for conspiracy theorists, what happened to posts 5, 6 & 7?
1st of all Jake. I am being counted on the petetion. 2nd- any Bigsoccer name under LA12 or LADOCE was red carded after the group broke up and came on the boards slaming Nick. Ask Huss why we were red carded. 3rd- Conspiracy? Hardly, am posting what I saw and what happened. I've seen, spoken, and conntacted many people who we're on good term with us and told us the truth. Oh and I was arrested at GS one time and saw the picture wall and a Jersey trooper showed me my album of pics. 4th- I WILL NEVER SPEND A DOLLAR ON THE METROSTARS AGAIN! Am voicing my opinion here, because It's all I WANT TO DO. The metrostars and MLS have lost me as a fan and I WILL NEVER GO BACK, and 5th- Why go back to GS to voice an opinion if am going to get locked up?
It's always hard to separate the wheat from the chaff on message boards. I still think you could identify yourself further (i.e. aka ___) so that those more familiar with the OGs (original grumps) could relate. Whenever I read vitriol from a "new" member, I infer that an existing member is posting as an alter ego. If, in fact, there is a photo album devoted to you in the GS catacombs, perhaps it is best that you limit your participation to the TV level. Maybe someday the ESC will get a tour of the facilities and get to see ourselves immortalized on the photo wall.
I know this might an undertaking but can some help me (a Metro-newbie) figure out what the heck is going on? I don't pretend to know what I am talking about when dealing with MLS so who's Nick and what has he done/not done?
I just realized it's on the same server as the old RASH Futbol website. Are there still Redskins in 101? EDIT: It's not a link. I just had never seen the logo or heard of such a group so was wondering if you guys did.
Pardon my lack of knowledge, but what's a Redskin? (I know you're not talking about the football team or native americans.)
My bad, I just realized you meant the image wasn't showing up. Try going to http://members.tripod.com/TOMATHON/