Glass Dragons Still Breathe Fire - The Gareth Bale Thread

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  1. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes he runs fast and jumps high and is big and strong, but the team is going to move in the direction of passing in tight spaces and all of his "skills" become worthless.

    He is good at headers, but not the best in the world. Moreover we did endless crossing in years past to capitalize on the BBC's strengths but I don't see the team playing that way anymore.
     
  2. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Yet you're in the other thread arguing we should also sell the guy who's really good at this. Go figure.
     
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  3. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Bale could use both feet, stay fit, and stop chasing coaches out of the club I might like him. In fact I did like him again for about 15 minutes in May. I don't trust either of these guys for a whole season minus Ronaldo.

    If the idea is have Benzema compete with Kroos and Isco for a spot in midfield, we still need a forward. If the idea is to play Benzema as a "9" or "false 9" we still need a new forward. The problem is nobody will sign for us as long as he is here because they know as long as he can stand he will start. See Mbappe. Also see France for a glimpse of life post Benzema.

    Bale is Bale. Ditto Benzema. 3CL and 4 in 5 years. They are perfect and can't be improved on. I would bet good money that we don't win another CL or La Liga until both of them are gone.
     
  4. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    But you literally wrote you wanted Benzema sold. And here Bale. And yet, you provide no alternatives in a market that is dry as a desert for forwards.
     
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  5. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    I really don't get the hate for Bale; because he made those comments after the final?
     
  6. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It was what he said that pissed me off.
     
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  7. 9Qui

    9Qui Moderator
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    May 26, 2004
    Yet if he could stay healthy and keep producing what he has in between the injuries, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
     
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  8. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    True and that's because he was benched because he was injured many times and he was given a lot of chances to play on the account of better formed players and usually ended up failing badly.
    Bale's biggest thing is that somehow (talent or luck) he manage to score the important goals.
    he certainly has talent, he's athletic, super fast and can shoot, but I've also seen him very afraid of tackling and getting tackled, especially in the last year. if this continues this year, he should only blame himself and his injury prune body for getting benched.

    regardless of all this, I still don't see how you create a whole formation with Bale as 9. unless we're going to sit back and play the offside rule, and allow his speed to pass the defense, I just don't see him transferred into a traditional 9.
     
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  9. David Jefferies

    Mar 14, 2017
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    Real Madrid
  10. S1na

    S1na Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jun 1, 2014
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I hope him all the best. Would love to see him dominate the league.
     
  11. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is going to have his best season yet. I have no doubt. He is eager to prove himself as a top 5 player.
     
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  12. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    [​IMG]

    Same story for five years.
     
  13. Iscodisco

    Iscodisco Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Dec 14, 2017
    All stats, history and logic point to the opposite.
     
  14. surgeon

    surgeon Member+

    Aug 28, 2012
    Which is exactly why I expect him to deliver next season.
     
  15. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. His stats when healthy are great, so that remark makes no sense.
    2. His injury history is poor, of which im sure Lopetegui is aware of and will rotate accordingly.
    3. With Isco likely an every week starter as well, expect us to possess more of the ball, which means less 70 yard counter attacks, meaning less strain on Bale muscular issues.
    4. Show some damn optimism. He's going to be our main man and top goal scorer whether you like it or not.
     
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  16. Iscodisco

    Iscodisco Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Dec 14, 2017
    Gareth Bale Injury History

    Type of Injury
    Date Reported Club
    Calf Muscle Injury 2015 September 15 Real Madrid
    Hip/Thigh Injury 2014 October 21 Real Madrid
    Leg Injury 2014 May 6th Real Madrid
    Leg Injury 2014 January 27th Real Madrid
    Hamstring Injury 2013 September 23rd Real Madrid
    Hamstring Injury 2013 October 2nd Real Madrid
    Illness 2013 March 22nd Tottenham Hotspur
    Illness 2013 March 20th Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2013 March 17th Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2013 July 28th Tottenham Hotspur
    Groin/Pelvis Injury 2013 July 21st Tottenham Hotspur
    Knock/Small Injury 2013 December 21th Real Madrid
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2013 April 4th Tottenham Hotspur
    Heel Injury 2012 October 9th Tottenham Hotspur
    Illness 2012 March 4th Tottenham Hotspur
    Hip/Thigh Injury 2012 June 30th Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2012 July 28th Tottenham Hotspur
    Hip/Thigh Injury 2012 January 25th Tottenham Hotspur
    Hamstring Injury 2012 February 28th Tottenham Hotspur
    Hamstring Injury 2012 December 1st Tottenham Hotspur
    Back Injury 2012 August 15th Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2012 April 7th Tottenham Hotspur
    Sprained Ankle 2011 May 9th Tottenham Hotspur
    Hamstring Injury 2011 March 21st Tottenham Hotspur
    Back Injury 2011 January 22nd Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2011 December 3rd Tottenham Hotspur
    Knee Injury 2011 April 22nd Tottenham Hotspur
    Shoulder Injury 2010 November 24th Tottenham Hotspur
    Knee Injury 2010 March 3rd Tottenham Hotspur
    Hip/Thigh Injury 2010 August 11th Tottenham Hotspur
    Cartilage Knee Injury 2009 June 13th Tottenham Hotspur
    Knee Injury 2009 June 1st Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2008 September 24th Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2007 October 23rd Tottenham Hotspur
    Thigh Muscle Strain 2007 July 13th Tottenham Hotspur
    Ankle/Foot Injury 2007 December 2nd Tottenham Hotspur

    And this is only till 2015. Since then he has had over 10 injuries to add to this.

    I think this speaks for itself in regards to basing any kind of sporting project around Bale.
     
  17. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You think he was spending one third of a season on the medical table for five years because he was not as eager to prove himself as a top 5 player during this time?

    Also, how is exactly Bale going to be the central piece if we will rotate him all the time to keep him from getting injured, and how is he going to be useful if there are not going to be 70 yard counter attacks when he plays?
     
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  18. yoanaidarov

    yoanaidarov Member+

    Real Madrid
    Bulgaria
    Sep 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria
    Wow. That list looks worse than I thought.
     
  19. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Bale's major problem is the calf muscle tear in the 2015/2016 season (Ronaldo also got injured in that season, but we got very lucky with the timing). He has had an injury in that area for the following two seasons since then.
     
  20. Iscodisco

    Iscodisco Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Dec 14, 2017
    I know. Nothing against him but it's unrealistic and foolish to depend on him based on that alone.

    Tactically, I also don't see where he fits in with the possession tiki taka type football Lopetegui wants to play.
     
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  21. Arcticmandaly

    Arcticmandaly Member+

    Oct 6, 2015
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Funny thing is these same posters begging for him to stay will be first ones in here moaning about him sitting home in hes hot tub again.I cant believe were going into another fresh season with him and benz once again its just flat out delusional.
     
  22. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In 9 months, this man will be THE face of Real Madrid. Prepare yourselves.
     
  23. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I don't think anyone is begging for him to stay, at least not on RMBS but i do feel like we should keep him, i mean do we even have a choice? No one has shown interest for him apart from United and those rumors vanished quickly. I would have liked to cash in on him but it looks like he's staying and there's not much we can do except hope that he doesn't get injured (often) and support him. I wouldn't rely on him though and i wouldn't build a gameplan around him.

    I can see him scoring 30 goals this season if he can keep his 2017/18 season fitness.
     
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  24. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was our 2nd highest goal scorer last season with 21 goals in all comps and thats despite having an injury in the first half of the season and not having Zizou'a trust in the second half of the season.

    I think 30 goals is certainly feasible this season, if not higher. He will have the most shots every game he plays.
     
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  25. Arcticmandaly

    Arcticmandaly Member+

    Oct 6, 2015
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yes you are right just annoyed that these two are getting another chance yet again and people are expecting different results. The time to sell him was season or two ago when united were really interested in buying him but then they went and got sanchez on that ridiclous contract/wages and bale got injured again for long stretch and now it seems they had enough of hes injuries.
     

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